Why does the US need to get rid of the euro

Seventy-one years ago, the Axis powers lost WWII, leaving the US with the demanding task of managing its victory and defining a new global architecture. The US did this by setting up ambitious institutions, such as the Bretton Woods system and NATO, and by supporting the European integration project. Institutions have much inertia, which while favoring stability, may prevent vital change in response to evolving situations. This explains both the success of many political projects, and their ultimate fall. The same applies to European integration.

NATO and European integration shared the strategic goal of creating a cohesive alliance that could withstand what was at the time perceived as a credible threat: the Soviet Union. They were successful. NATO (not the EU) secured almost six decades of peace in Europe, while economic integration was a key to prosperity in the former world leader, Europe.

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Then something happened. The Soviet system collapsed, which among many other things, brought back to the fore what had for centuries been the root cause of much suffering: the difficult relationship between France and Germany. Berlin-wall panic suggested the nonsensical and impossible goal of European political union. The worst possible way was chosen to pursue it, namely by forcing it through establishment of a European monetary union. No democratic or even meaningful political process can take place in an area which does not share a language or national identity. Yet, despite advice to the contrary from prominent US economists (ranging from Feldstein to Krugman), a hasty marriage of convenience between France and Germany, with the single currency as wedding ring, was seen as necessary in Europe in order to avoid intra-European conflict. Much has been written about whether building a political house starting from a monetary roof was actually a mistake. Like any economic choice, the euro affected the distribution of income, creating losers and winners. The latter of course cannot bring themselves to consider it a mistake. While opinions on this point may differ, everybody agrees that as of today the euro is failing.

The reason for its failure is the same that put the Bretton Woods system out of its misery: both institutions fostered external imbalances, though for different reasons. The original sin of the Bretton Woods system was to adopt the currency of a state as the world currency. The euro’s original sin was to adopt the currency of no state as a regional currency. Their common flaw is fixed exchange rates, that prevent balance-of-payments adjustment. If, for whatever reason, this mechanism is hindered, it must be replaced by something else. The relatively long life of the Bretton Woods system was secured by financial market regulation and by the vision of its leader, the US. These two things are missing in the Eurozone, where unfettered capital movement is fostered in the absence of any regional supervising institution, and where the regional leader, Germany, is patently obsessed by the very short-sighted aim of increasing its external surplus as much as possible.

This Wille zur Macht is now backfiring. Keynes’s proposal at the Bretton Woods conference gives us good insights into what is happening. Keynes proposed to settle international trade in a supranational currency, the Bancor, issued by a world bank, which would charge an interest rate on negative and positive Bancor balances. The rationale for this apparently unfair symmetry (why force a creditor to pay interest, rather than earning it?) is that international debtors and creditors both benefit from international finance: thanks to international lending, the former can buy goods they otherwise could not afford, while the latter are able to sell goods that would otherwise remain in stock. By proposing such perishable money, a currency that by design could not be a store of value, Keynes aimed to discourage mercantilism, i.e. the temptation to hoard international assets rather than reinvesting them in the world economy, thus mitigating the potentially destabilizing properties of fixed exchange rates. The euro obtained the opposite result. Its rigidity fostered mercantilism both by helping redirect trade to the benefit of core countries, whose currency is undervalued in real terms, and by preserving the value of their net foreign assets.

But the supposed winner of the euro game, Germany, is now at a dead end. If it wants to keep the Eurozone alive, Germany must accept the very loose monetary policies run by the ECB. Ironically, Keynes’s negative rates are coming back in disguise, putting strain on the Eurozone banking and pension systems, especially in Germany. On the other hand, a tighter monetary policy would give relief to the creditors, but for the very same reason would lead the debtor countries to immediate collapse by making it difficult to service the debt. Any illusion that fiscal expansion could solve this conundrum must reckon with the fact that the countries needing fiscal stimulus, i.e. the Eurozone peripheral countries, are the very same countries where an increase in income would bring about external deficits, again fostering the imbalances that caused the crisis.

Germany romped to victory by manipulating the forex market (as the US Treasury recently recognised), but must now choose between losing everything at once (through the collapse of its debtors) or little by little (through zero or negative interest rates). In the long run, irrational economic choices have no winners: bad economics cannot be good politics. What should have united Europe is now dividing it. The United Kingdom is going, and continental Europe must now choose between increasing confrontation or surrender to German hegemony. The US, like any global player, must reckon with the evidence that the euro has unnecessarily revived the German question, which it was meant to prevent.

If the US decides that it is in its best interest to deal with a politically divided, economically failing, socially unstable Europe, then supporting the euro is the best option. After all, the divide et impera (divide and rule) principle secured a former Empire some five centuries of existence. If instead the US feels that a politically and economically healthy Europe could be a key partner on the global stage, then it should promote a controlled end to the euro. Undoing the euro will be costly, though less costly than its alternative, which is protracted stagnation of the European and hence the world economy, and the growing risk of a major financial collapse. Secular stagnation and zero interest rates are not a result of some remote astrological circumstance: they are mostly the effect on the global economy of using wrong European rules to manage huge imbalances accumulated due to flawed European institutions. Although Europe is declining, it is still too big to fail without causing great trouble in the global economy.

No matter how much political capital is invested in it, the euro will fall, as top US economists predicted. The most likely cause will be a collapse of the Italian banking system, which will take the German one with it. It is in the interest of any political power, certainly of the declining European leaders, and probably also of the US, to manage this event rather than passively await it.

Big Chungus Agrees

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Many right-wing parties in Europe are anti-euro. The AfD in Germany started as an anti-euro-party and then become more and more right-wing.

How is the migration crisis, the demographic crisis and islamisation fitting into this great scheme of things?

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>How is the migration crisis, the demographic crisis and islamisation fitting into this great scheme of things?
part of mercantilism, German capitalists want low labor force to lower the wages, they planned to take it mostly from Ukraine, but the plane failed at the beginning of the civil war, so they started the balkan route.
Another pool of low labor manpower was supposed to be Spain, but Spaniards don't want to go to Germany, and this confuses a lot those guys that do not understand why Spanish people doesn't want to fled from their country to go to live in the continent.
The most wanted type of migration is the intra-European one, because to build a European supercountry you have to demolish the indentities of all countries, this is actually why their are pushing German youth to move out Germany too. Having them in Hungary or Poland will help to make better boundaries between Germany and those countries.
Mass migration from the shitholes it is considered just another option, but has the same core of principle behind it.

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Thanks for your reply.
If the german elite really sees labor forces in the new migrants from Africa and the Middle East, they are blind. Statistics show that Muslims and Africans are very low skilled and have a lots of problems with integration (higher crime rate, they don't learn the language, they do not accept the laws and so on). They are not even good for low wage jobs because they rather live by welfare. Some experts already said that only about 10% of the refugees who came in 2015 and the following years will integrate economically.

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user, do you really want the answer?
They think people are numbers, they will not realize the disaster they made until their cars will be burned.

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>"They think people are numbers, they will not realize the disaster they made until their cars will be burned."
That's what I've thought. They lost touch with reality hard. After they finally realize what they have done, they will hopefully reverse it.

>user, do you really want the answer?
Yes, why do you think he asked the question?

It should.

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Damn, those are some serious dagger claws

It should? That's not proper English there, buddy. Idk what you're trying to say.

Its just a matter of time until France or Germany start shits up in Europe again. I really wish France would just hurry up with their revolution and produce Napoleon 2.0 already

Nationalism is a recent phenomenon in European history.

Nationalism is basically ripe for divide an conquer from the outside, which is why, with the rise of nationalism Europe has gone to shit.

When and by whom was your stuff written?
Sounds like the usual Keynsian bullshit written by American butthurt economists.

Nationalism existed in fucking Aristotle's teachings you mong.

>Nationalism is basically ripe for divide an conquer from the outside
What are you talking about?
The opposite is true. Nationalism is impenetrable because it defines the political entity as one of common heritage and race.
It's much easier to D&C a Willensnation like the US.

Relevance?

Nationalism in Europe is ripe for playing the nations against each other.

Learned nothing from the last 100 years?

>a burger teaching proper english
It should have it, or it should be, whatever you prefer.
I understand your eager to eat a dick, you are free to do it when you want my ravenous friend.

I can barely understand what you're saying.

Natio-nationis is Latin my friend, and it was used by Romans.
National states are a Reinassance-modern phenomenon but only because before that period pretty much everybody in Europe was considered, by law, a Roman.

I know you don't speak English.

>Nationalism is a recent phenomenon in European history.
Is a completely untrue statement.

A+ for effort

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what the fuck? How can an Italian be so based?

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You are free to not understand what is going on, but don't worry, you live in a peripheral country.
There is no need you to understand.

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Until the renaissance everyone in Europe was considered a Roman?

Rome ceased to exist about 1000 years before.

>Holy Roman Empire
dude.

I would be very surprised if he is indeed Italian.

The Holy Roman Empire was run by german kings.

that, by law, were Romans.

1) English is the official language of America
2) I'm speaking English to you right now
3) How can you accuse me of not being able to speak English when you show numerous grammatical errors in your sentences.

So everyone in the Holy Roman being considered Roman is your proof of nationalism?

Are you retarded?

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>Nationalism in Europe is ripe for playing the nations against each other.
Well, yeah, but not for dividing the nations itself. Even the Metternichs and Bismarcks had to admit that Napoleons army was so successful because its soldiers did fight for their own cause, their own nation, and not for on some king's demand who bargained some piece of land for another.
An ethnically homogeneous nation is probably the strongest political unit there is.

I didn't and still don't want a trap cock, I wanted to know if the alleged women that this user was talking about were actually males. Because if so...

that would be b a d

I didn't said that, I said another thing.
You can consider the Roman citizenship of the middle ages, inheritance of the Roman Empire as the Roman laws to all the countries of Europe, as the modern European citizenship.
All the documents were written in Latin, the development of national countries took times, even because everybody was claming back the legacy of Roman Empire.
It's middle school history mate, all the nations were annexed in the Roman Empire.

>It should have it
it is proper English, if you can't understand, it's not my fault.

You could probably go smaller and claim that a tribe is even a stronger unit.

But what is "french nationalism"? It consists of different regions even with different languages.

Napoleon is roughly 200 years ago. I agree he was one of the main reason for the growing nationalism in Europe. He basically created it in Germany all by himself.

umm... fuck there is no way thats a dude right? Thats just a flat young looking girl right? RIGHT?

You didn't say "it should have it", you just said "it should".
And this was in response to:
>">user, do you really want the answer?
Yes, why do you think he asked the question?"
How could I have possibly understood what you were talking about?

Who fucking cares dude if you cant see a penis, you think its a chick, and you think its hot, be attracted to it. Youre only a fag if the revelation of a penis doesnt deter your sexual interest

It's a girl, I did some research just to make sure.

You don't even know what you are saiyng. If everyone can be considered a roman, then thats not nationalism.

Thats like me sayng everyone can be considered a european. And it would proof my point.

You Italians REALLY enjoy having to share the debt burden of your fellow Eurofag currency members? Really?