I've been researching different civil wars and curious as to thoughts on where the battle lines will be drawn in the next major western civil war: geographically, ideologically, and demographically.
The Spanish Civil War seems like a possible good comparison.
Link to 6 part documentary I really enjoyed:
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Angry men destroying infrastructure and going back to their day jobs until all the retards in government and office jobs die from the power and service outages concurrent with WW3.
Boers are going to be the big winners of WW3 because it will give them a chance to have their civil war without being interfered with.
Losers:
Coastal areas
Cities
England
Poland
Ukraine
Any country that imports food from the west
Winners:
Humans
Spanish Civil War is a good starting point. Although you should expect a lot more ethnic warfare like the Balkans wars in the 90s, albeit localized to urban landscapes and the immediate surrounding areas.
Interesting, now do you think Poland will be a net loser because of Russian intervention, refugees, or why?
>destroying infrastructure and going back to their day jobs
Of what, cleaning up rubble, scavenging cans from the remains of the grocery store?
Probably be a mix of the Spanish Civil War, Syrian Civil War, and the breakup of Yugoslavia. My guess would be a mostly rural vs city and coast areas.
>Any country that imports food from the west
Fucking retard. Poland and Ukraine feed loser countries like the UK.
It’ll either like the collapse of the Soviet Union(rather peaceful) or super bloody like The Yugoslav Wars
Who would act as the Germans/Italians and gommies arming and financing each side?
north florida will invade south florida
With the Balkans weren't there generally 1 dominant group in an area which went and "visited" their neighbors? How does that work in a city or town where there's no clear majority?
>Interesting, now do you think Poland will be a net loser because of Russian intervention, refugees, or why?
Exotic weapons will be used to render the land in between Russia and the West impassable to all life forms for many years, Poland and Ukraine are the most likely countries for this to happen in.
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>Of what, cleaning up rubble, scavenging cans from the remains of the grocery store?
Of working trades that will only continue to be more and more profitable right up until the end of this way of doing things at which point we will have to build and grow our own again.
here is the most useful map for the second American Civil War
That's what I'm interested in mostly. I'm not even certain exactly where the majority of conflict will be placed as of yet. A lot of people think it'll be the US but right now I don't know a hand full of people who would actually take up arms against a home invader let alone anyone else.
>that 100% red Oklahoma
feels good, man.
reminds me of the yin yang symbol
I'm really starting to think Siener was right about everything. I hope to God I survive WW3 and make it to South Africa. 2020's are gonna be a hell of a decade.
As someone who has never before heard of Siener is there a good place to read up on his visions/predictions, especially as it relates to what you suggested about Poland/Ukraine and future conflict?
Locations that’d get invaded would be The Black Belt in The South, NorthEast would need to be reclaimed, and West Coast would need to be stomped to death.
based prophecy poster
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basically it's going to go down when the tension in the US boils over, and In red states wolverines style until we get help from defectees from the military, and Russia.
Now imagine how you libs would feel if the US joined an EU with the same structure and determined policy for your beloved snownigger countries the same way.
won't happen until towards the end of this century. you and I will be old men, or dead. grit and bear it a little while longer. have children and raise them to reject the status quo. I'd personally move up north where there are larger white communities.
So then we wait for the next shot heard round the world and its a go?
it'll be like when newyork when it went from 90% white to 20% white
or when california went from 90% white to 20% white
or like how texas is going from 90% white to 20% white right now
civil warrrrrrr yooooooo im sure thatll happen at some point right? we wont just dip below 20% and go like wtf when was the civil war supposed to happen
Some blogs have like a quick rundown version, but the best source is a book called "Messenger of God" by Adriaan Snyman.
Most of his prophecies were about South Africa in particular, but he did talk a lot about World War III.
heavenawaits.wordpress.com
suidlanders.org
youtube has some stuff about him, but some of the decent documentaries got deleted recently.
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Something similar to the Troubles in Northers Irland from the 70s through 80s
>England
lol
I'm not speaking directly about the US here, I'm talking about the continued and exacerbated conflict between the peoples we've been seeing in the "Western World"
I dunno man, seems like most of what he said has already happened, and we pretty much just have to wait for a major economic collapse to kick the final stages off. I could see that happening in the next 10 years. The niggers in SA are ready to butcher the whites at a moments notice and take their land, the muslims have invaded Europe, and anti white hatred is very popular. Economic collapse and civil wars need to start and then it all goes down hill quickly.
>First Barbary War
>Thinking 400 year old battles are somehow relevant
I was talking about using the map for strategic and tactical purposes. You know, exploiting urban supply choke points and starving you motherfuckers to death.
>thinking scotland and ireland have ever once been relevant
essentially, yes. Lobby towards a cause that, in its magnitude, would garnish the support of a vast majority of people. a non physical shot heard around the world(by that I mean a shot that isn't a literal shot from a gun) would be the yellow vest protests. Someone would end up getting shot, and it will piss off the protesters.
>Related how?
Hillary has the numerical advantage and their voters are richer and better educated. Trump voters are mostly poor rednecks, they have no chance to win a war.
>What will the civil war be like?
Lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of fires.
the next civil war in US won't be explicitly racial, it will be de facto racial, just like the political parties in the US aren't explicitly divided by race but are in fact defined by race.
Clinton voters are younger in general this is true, not necessarily much richer than Trump voters though and highly concentrated geographically which puts them at more risks than benefits.
I get this sense as well. As much as Jow Forums likes to talk about the day of the rope it won't be how it goes down or will be in the vast minority.
>all useful land and resources on the coast.
Yea an American civil war 2 would end with mountain dew drinking hill billies stuck in dust bowl 2.0, when the coastal states cut off supplies to the red necks.
>Bantus ready to slaughter boers
I'm aware. The initial conflict is going to be a loss for the SA whites(boers) though, which will get Germany and the US involved. But guess who's backing the SA gov? China. Who's backing China? Russia. It won't just be another proxy war, this will see a full blown conflict that will rock the world, and correct the current demographics of this planet.
If you're right, start looking into power shifts in the German government. Apparently, Germany won't get involved with SA until they elect a new Fuehrer-type leader.
Around that time our second civil war will be kicking off, and Russia will do everything to stop the US in this conflict by aiding the US rebels. What they don't realize is they won't be able to use any moles. We're not eastern European countries they've taken advantage of over the centuries. We're more than a doubt a patriot to every last man woman and child. We'll enforce a better cabinet than the one that was supplanted, and help germany finish the fight against russia. We'll undoubtedly lose our spot as #1 superpower though.
It won't.
>lucky bastard
i thought they killed retarded niggers in your country
2 Peter 3 and Enoch agree.
you have no idea where your food and water come from, do you?
Great. So I'm on the front lines here. Wonderful.
Reminder that this is Russia's WW3 plan.
Make England Ocean!
Burn the cities!
Sure do. But who do you think the rest of the world would support? The Republicans or dems? Since the Republican base voted for a literal retard I'm guessing dem strong holds. Also, theres plenty of agricultural in dem states. You're making a fallacy here like the idiots who thought the north had less agricultural compared to the south in the civil war, which is also false they had more.
Those poor fucking wives and children of alaska natives living off the road system. Once the welfare, fuel subsidies, and native corp checks stop coming in every village off the roads is unironically going to look like the book The Road
In Europe I think it will go something like this:
>nationalist governments in Hungary, Austria, Italy etc get even more BASED, emboldening blackpilled previously nationalists in other countries
>maybe another country or two get decent leaders into government, Netherlands perhaps
>more terrorist attacks
>economic crisis leads to mass protests dwarfing that of the Yellow Vests
>anti-Muslim attacks by people with nothing to lose occur during all the chaos
>military drafted in but many of them side with the nationalists
>governments completely lose control of the situation
>Muslims and some other non-whites simply flee back to their ancestral homelands
This all assumes the USA doesn't have some vile SJW in the White House by then, or we could be looking at another Kosovo situation
The rest of the world is going to be on fire and fighting either its own civil war, its local grudge match and/or WW3.
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No it wont. Because the rest of the world is literally laughing at the US waiting for it to implode because their citizens think internet arguments and social media is truth, and follow each other blindly off the cliff.
Pretty much this if I succeed in taking over a minute man silo.
Thing of beauty
Morocco was the first country to recognize America
And when America didn't have a navy to defend its ships from pirates, the Moroccan Navy volunteered its forces to help defend them.
Yeah I'm not going to be sitting around waiting for the EU to give aid to anyone during an American conflict.
Read this:
Civil war 2 and WW3 are the same war.
Death to the cities!
>go to CA
>ignite nearest blade of grass
>biggest wildfire in history
Thanks for weaponizing the states wildlife libshits
Look at what happens to dem cities as soon as one black guy gets shot by police. They are barely holding together as it is. The blue areas will simply collapse in on themselves zombie apocalypse style and won't even put up a fight.
Yea you want to fight against that? Have fun fighting against savages.
>nigger filled cities are going to be organized and productive during a fucking civil war
Okay bud.
I do think things like these points show some clear vulnerabilities, probably going to be pretty dark for a while.
>Hollywood movies and Wall Street finance are supplies
Winner: China
Why meme flags should be banned case no.6000000
Cities haven't been productive at anything for the last few decades. All the heavy manufacturing has moved overseas. 90% of the production of cities is simply in warehousing and transport. All the essentials of life are produced in the rural areas of the country. About all major cities have left are pointless tech stuff and seaports. America is still a net exporter of food, and believe it or not crude oil thanks to fracking. All we'd have to do is wall them off and they'd all starve to death.
>nobody would support republicans because orange man
>doesnt realize the wave of nationalism his election awoke across the globe
>several prominent nationalist leaders from europe used trump's election as a mold for their own
Macron's getting axed
Merkel is going to be ousted
Who gives a shit about England?
Italy is based again
Hungary, the Philippines, Poland, Ukraine, a few nationalist runners in the french election (like Marine LePen) all like the fact trump exists and tore a fraction of power from the hands of the establishment. He's a Prometheus who carried the proverbial flame of nationalism to many people(who in the last couple of decades wouldn't have considered an option for the fear of backlash it creates) around the world. A lot of people are beginning to wake up from the matrix and realize what's going on.
>Why you're a faglord # 603948584
Because meme flags dont fucking matter on an anonymous message board you child.
Politically. Right vs left, with centrists not taking part.
All I got from this was blahblah blah "nationalism" like its supposed to trigger something profound. Yea, I get it, people who lean right are nationalists, but so are lots who lean left. You are making redundant points.
For America right? Given how America is only like 53% white and those whites are out of shape or leftist it will be like the Liberian Civil War with elements of the Haitian Revolution.
Expect all the Mexicans to align with Mexico, Chinese with China, and Russia supplying arms to everyone on the ground. Anyone over 40 will be dead either from combat (for being out of shape) or medical reasons (no insulin, blood or heart medication). The Mexican hordes will quickly overrun the South West while China deploys and occupies Oregon/Washington to Montana with little resistance in the population centers. Outside the population centers survivalist groups will hold out for a couple months but the winter will kill most of them and S&D ops will clean up the stragglers. In the South and Mid Atlantic the blacks will run rampant and strip the cities and countryside of resources. This will be a brutal war with the white minority ultimately dying off. The North East will be a shit show and the cities would be deathtraps. Anyone living within 200 miles of a major city will be raided within 72 hours by roving gangs from the cities. The Central Midwest and upper Midwest will be relatively quiet for a while before pressures from the South/East/West become too great. All farming will break down due to major subsidies for corporate farmers. Starvation and sickness will devastate this region allowing for Chinese and Mexican hordes to pick off the remains. The high level Jews of course would've long since fled to Israel. The low end ones will blend in and try to escape to Canada.
So narrow sighted. China is the winner without firing a single shot.
>Hank Williams Jr
The only thing he knows about surviving is how to do the right amount of drugs without ODing.
Damm, that little girl made me feel ashamed of my marksmanship. I need to practice more.
Lmao we could literally feed, clothe, and fully supply the entire rebellion from Texas alone.
Add in the heartland and Dixie and we could supply a 30 year war.
The only resources you have to offer us are more genders
Until the armies of the east march over the dried up Euphrates they are irrelevant to anyone white, shortly after they do that anyone in that army will be dead and irrelevant again.
Jesus is Lord.
honestly, I wouldn't put it past china to use indonesia as a guinea pig like that. I'd like to think western nations have too much respect for the fermi paradox to indulge such shenanigans, if not human life in general
This would never work, earthquakes have significantly more energy behind them than a theoretical 200 megaton nuclear bomb. You need millions of times more energy than that spread over a huge area to create a major tsunami.
Well I'm glad you admitted you are a brainlet.
I was commenting on the fact you stated how nobody would support republicans. I stated the contrary and I used nationalists rising across the globe as the reason why.
I mean, I don't know why this goof thinks that they don't have sufficient nukes to buttfuck the world. If you drop a nuke in the ocean big enough to cause that and set it off, I don't see why that would not start a nuclear exchange.
Easier to bypass a missile shield with a big wave.
>curious as to thoughts on where the battle lines will be drawn
You'll have an uneasy alliance of fascists, conservatives, hicks, and powerful foreign backers like le Russians and the Chinese up against the lawful government of the United States supported by NATO.
The country will turn into an East vs West proxy war and America will be bombed back into the stone age and not be relevant again in world politics for 50-100 years.
I happen to live in one of your dem states and let me tell you no one in the ag community is going to support liberals.
The people in the cities will starve.
A big wave moves a whole lot slower than ICBMs, NATO could unload every single missile in its collective arsenals on Russia long before a tsunami made landfall anywhere. Nevermind that there probably isn't enough fissile material in the world to create a nuke big enough to create a sizable tsunami.
a gigaton is not a million times more powerful than a megaton but rather 1000
the earthquake responsible for the 2004 tsunami was apparently charted at 9.1 on the richter scale - 67 gigatons
Sure, but building a bomb big enough to cause something on the scale this guy is talking, and getting it where it needs to go seems hard.
See bellow.
There will be no winner in the case of WW3. If its a nuclear exchange that will likely cascade into a total nuclear exchange. If its a more conventional war then al the new shit that hasnt been used on a large scale will be real fucking good or get shitcanned due to it not working when tested in total war. An example of this is naval warfare, the tactics currently used are carrier groups which may get blow the fuck out by rail guns. A change in tactics will occur. This will be the only advancement. On the social level every country is fucked. The west for obvious rasons of an unwilling poplace mixed with hardline nationalists. China because they have a economy geared towards mass production of consumer goods which can be turned against them. If conditions get so bad enough the workers will revolt and strong men will seize power, see the entire history of china. Russia has an outdated military and can only maintain a relatively small amount of top grade military hardware due to their economy being in the shitter. The smaller countries around the world because they could fuck each other over without UN interference. The only winner will be those who don't play.
>Tests were conducted by Professor Thomas Leech, of the University of Auckland, in Whangaparaoa off the coast of Auckland and off New Caledonia[1] between 1944 and 1945. British and US defence chiefs were eager to see it developed, and it was considered potentially as important as the atomic bomb. It was expected to cause massive damage to coastal cities or coastal defences.
The weapon was only tested using small explosions and never on a full scale. 3,700 test explosions[1] were conducted over a seven-month period. The tests revealed that a single explosion would not produce a tsunami, but concluded that a line of 2,000,000 kg (4,400,000 lb) of explosives about 8 km (5.0 mi) off the coast could create a destructive wave.[1]
tsunami speed can be as high as 500 mph (deep ocean) or as low as 30 mph (shallow ocean). assuming a speed of 30 mph in the case of the above experiment, where the explosions were set within 5 miles of the target area, there would be 10 minutes to respond
God I wish that was me.
we won't have a civil war in the traditional sense if the government properly keeps the citizens pacified (if we do then it will be like the yellow vests but with guns)
we'll have 500 unabombers committing large scale terrorist attacks and making demands without getting caught
Well I can't speak for anything more than 30 feet outside of my home (ie the world and all of the people I don't give a flying fuck about)
but here is how it will go for me
I here screaming, I hear yelling... windows getting smashed, nogs laughing, and storming the gates of my community in large hoards. I kill the lights in my house. Big couch goes in front of screen door, small couch goes in front of front door. Water stored, canned food for at least a month, katanna, pepper spray (lots of it) and at least 50 thousand rounds for my AR-15.
I kill anyone who I see until the event is over, no one comes in my house.
Good luck everyone else.
check the last census map.
integration is a meme cities are segregated as fuck
