my sister has cut marks all over her arms. I don't know what the fuck for. she's in high school and has friends and does activities and stuff. she has a therapist since my parents divorce like 5 years ago, she sees her regularly. I have a suspicion in the back of my mind that my sister's leftish tendencies are catalyzed by this therapist, and cutting is turned into sort of a valid form of therapy because modern leftists are all about deconstruction of any conceptions of absolute truth, and to them cutting might seem like something to be treated more casually(?). Or at least, something to be treated with too much delicacy and not looked down on hard enough. I don't know. Mostly I don't know why she actually started doing it and it's been a massive thorn in my side. Not just her cutting but her behavior in general; over the past 5 years or so she got her hair cut short, doesn't shave her legs, wears my old clothes, etc. She's also homosexual, seemingly out of nowhere. It especially bothers me that maybe I was a bad model or something; I'm a weird nerd too and I was always a weird nerd and I'm 21 right now and still a khv.
my dad is concerned about this too, he thinks she "went gay because what, she hates men? is that somehow my fault? why does she hate me?" He's kind of a fucking idiot though because ostensibly he also has leftish tendencies but his thoughts about this obviously betrayed that he's quite apolitical and not the progressive minded person he sometimes pretends to be. My dad also has told me a few times that in the height of an argument, my mom told him that she was going to keep my sister in therapy until she "admits" he moslested her. You've got to understand we grew up upper middle class. He had (still has) a good job and rich relatives. We're not some redneck ass family, we did everything the proper conventional way until the divorce.
If I could just figure out why she's cutting and why she STILL goes to a fucking therapist
Did your family not let her date boys as a teen? How old is she?
Dominic Collins
she just turned 18. family was always pretty permissive, with me as well. but neither I or she took advantage of that, it's just we both developed into sort of weird nerd types. I feel like that was a mistake somewhere along the line.
Eli Harris
You people are a fucking mess
Bentley James
She's got almost no hope with you as her family.
Xavier Ortiz
like me personally? why?
Michael Phillips
See
John Flores
what, does my post give something about me away that I'm not seeing? do you not like my politics or something
Lincoln Ramirez
I think you ALL need to seek therapy together, everything is looking pretty fucked here.
Mason Jenkins
Because you're treating the issue as an annoyance, and not for what it truly is: she is very clearly suffering and has no direction in het life. You have the audacity to call her behavior a thorn in her side. Do you have any idea how hurt she'd be if she knew you thought of her like that? And then you start going leftist this, leftist that, as if that is the reason for her depression, and not the mother putting ideas into her head that she has been molested, or maybe she actually was molested. She's got almost no chance.
Daniel Nguyen
The absolute state of this site just stuns me sometimes
David Gray
>I have a suspicion in the back of my mind that my sister's leftish tendencies are catalyzed by this therapist, and cutting is turned into sort of a valid form of therapy because modern leftists are all about deconstruction of any conceptions of absolute truth, and to them cutting might seem like something to be treated more casually Seems like you and family are retarded. Your sister is obviously dealing with trauma and is trying to cope any way she can. She is going through a crisis and you should try to be more emotionally supportive instead of trying to rationalize her actions as a rebellion.
OP here. Why the fuck would you say that? Are you some kike shill or something? My sister killed her aunt last year
Juan Miller
>My sister killed her aunt last year Why did you omit something so significant from your post? You're a baiting larper or a retard. Either way you're a massive faggot.
Ethan Cook
but like, not irredeemable? what else should it be? yeah it's a thorn in my side in that it weighs down my thoughts and makes me sad. obviously I'm sad for her. >the mother putting ideas into her head that she has been molested my mom is notoriously emotional. it kind of scares me sometimes how she almost seems like an animal, if that makes sense; just as in like she's got no control over her emotions; they just come and she goes with them no matter what. Really it just makes her seem a lot more innocent. >or maybe she actually was molested this is the worst possible scenario here. It would highly highly tempt me to sort of just run away. Again, I dont think I meant what you think I meant by "thorn in my side". It's a thorn because it hurts continuously over a long period of time, it's just something that's always there that fucks with my mind. >she is very clearly suffering and has no direction in her life Why? Again look we were brought up extremely "normally". We always had basically all we wanted. And that's really what I hope the most the whole thing is caused by; not having any "real" problems so dumb teenager problems get inflated in her mind. maybe something worse is going on and I'm open minded to that but I really hope not.
>Your sister is obviously dealing with trauma and is trying to cope any way she can But WHAT fucking trauma? she started being sort of like this only around when the divorce started. before that she was happily dressing conventionally as a female, long hair, just seemed more "normal" in general. Didn't have a bad relationship with my dad like she does now. Which doesn't help my thinking that the therapy is artificially pulling her away. You aren't me
Jace Powell
I always keep things like that hidden. It's hard to talk about, that's why i got so angry.
Brody Adams
Mass repliers are fucking cancer. Hey out of my thread
Ethan Gonzalez
How did I make you this mad Seriously I must be doing something extremely wrong
I tell you my sister killed her aunt and you fucking mock me? What the shit dude? I'm worried that the stress is making her suicidal and you ask why I'mmad that you insulted me? youmust be a special kind of retard
Caleb Baker
>WHAT fucking trauma That's for you to find out. If she hasn't disclosed it to you then she doesn't trust you or she has trouble processing it. Either way, you should be a good brother by being there for her and not taking her resentment personally. If you're lucky it's just a phase of identity crisis but it could get worse and in that scenario she may cut ties with you and your family. She may have suicidal tendencies and you and your family being antagonistic is certainly not gonna help.
Camden Nguyen
See
Andrew Lewis
You sound like an insufferable faggot. You're angry at her sister because she's making you realize that you too are a fuck up. As some incel fuck you are in no space to judge.
Jack Long
Are you actually autistic? You think your Sister's problems are some sort of leftist plot to get back at you. "Why does she hate me?" Jesus Christ, retard, take off the narcissism goggles. I doubt your even a factor in your sister's actions.
Kayden Bell
Stop trying to derail the thread. When you try to poison sincerity with ill fitted humor you only make self look bad. Go to /b/ if it's attention that you're craving.
Benjamin Gomez
but nobody is really sane. my mom's not helping her, my dad is going crazy about it, and im too scared to look further into it. why does it have to be my job to go through all the stress of figuring this out? I have my own biases and ways of looking at things. maybe everyone itt including the impersonator is mad because I'm being too robotic or something and pinning the issue on politics and ideology. fine, maybe it is a fucked situation and my sister truly has very little real support because everyone around her is stupid and/or crazy. why does it have to be my job to fight through myself and be mature so I can help her? why haven't my parents done this? why was their marriage stable and normal for so many fucking years then suddenly degenerates into this?
Zachary Smith
>only make self You people are a fucking mess
Eli Williams
>Not seeing how Divorce can cause trauma Here, I'll make it simple for someone like you.
>Sister is happy in 2 parent home >Divorce.exe >Emotional mother fills sister's head with ideas that it's the Dad's fault for divorce >Sister now thinks she's living in a broken home because of her father >Hatemen.exe, Lesbian.exe
You should elaborate more on how your sister "killed" your aunt only a year ago, and is somehow committed to a psychiatric hospital.
Jason Williams
"Why does she hate me?" is what my dad said
Jason Myers
Then your dad's a pussy and needs to falcon punch her right in the fart box
Eli Anderson
It's not your job you fucking retard. Similar to how it's not your Sister's fault that you "feel sad" or some shit because of her actions. If you can't deal with it, cut her out of your life. If you want to help, don't get mad when the person who hasn't asked you for help keeps making you sad.
Brody Rivera
>how your sister "killed" your aunt only a year ago, and is somehow committed to a psychiatric hospital those posts are made by an asshurt troll pretending to be the OP
Mason Reed
This is the most likely explanation then
Noah Rogers
But what about the murder OP?
Eli Brown
>why does it have to be my job to fight through myself and be mature so I can help her? Sometimes in life you have to undertake responsibilities that is not yours. If you don't want to bother helping her then what would be the point of considering her as a part of your family. Your parents are fucked and I am sorry to hear that but you're 21 years old. You're a man now so be bedrock of your family.
Cooper Gonzalez
Bit isn't there an easier way? Like what if i sat her down to talk. I could explain my side of things, see what she says. We could call a family meeting to figure out how to handle it from here on out. Either that or i could just kill them all and rape the corpses. Like setting up some kind of game night where each turn the perspn says something about their day. I think that could work. Like monopoly but instead of money we use what happened that day as currency
Anthony Roberts
>You're a man now so be bedrock of your family. This thought has vaguely come into my head before but I really don't think I'm cut out for it. I'm too inexperienced and too immature. Already I've pissed off everyone who read my post merely explaining the situation.
Adam Price
can you please fuck off or at least explain why you are doing this
Bentley Thomas
Bedrock is literally rock bottom. Don't listen to that user
Kevin Ramirez
>I'm too inexperienced and too immature. Already I've pissed off everyone who read my post merely explaining the situation. They were pissed because you interjected your political beliefs when it wasn't relevant at all. As for your immaturity, you can grow out of it through experience. It's okay if you are not prepared. It's all part of the process. As long as you try and put the effort you will grow as a person.
Mason Hernandez
>still falling for the you people are a fucking mess
Parker Williams
>it wasn't relevant at all society in general doesn't affect personal issues? political trends aren't embedded in institutions like therapy? individuals don't all have their own biases tied closely to ideology and politics?
Nathan Collins
Just wombyn up and tell her you pussy
Andrew Hernandez
Your sister's actions weren't politically motivated or influenced at all so it wasn't relevant at all. Besides you seem to have a poor grasp on postmodernism. Peterson is a clinical psychologist not a philosopher. You should stop taking what he says at face value.
Bringing up politics when it is not needed annoys people. The scope of the problem should be narrowed if you want a concise solution.
>peterson did not mention him once if you paid attention and stopped assuming things. I only implicitly talked about postnodernism and never actually used the word. Anyway I think politics are relevant here and basically everywhere. Maybe to you and the rest of the thread that betrays that I'm too out of the loop to give my sister any actual help.
Hunter Garcia
>triggered
Michael Evans
yes you are
Jonathan Edwards
fuck you
Ayden Martin
You were referring to postmodernism when you're talking about deconstruction. Post structuralism is a mere tool to look at society and culture in a different context. It's not a leftist ideology. When you bring up politics you eliminate the posibility of a pragmatic solution becuase it is entrenched in dogma. You seem to have trouble understanding that. Besides you really have poor understanding of politics in general. You are influenced by Peterson even if it's subconsciously. You certainly have the tone of his acolytes.
Brayden Taylor
>You are influenced by Peterson even if it's subconsciously Well in any case he didn't straight up invent the things he fucking talks about. I probably do like a lot of the things he says, but who knows? Why though is he personally relevant and why did you bring him up of all people? >It's not a leftist ideology Can you talk in terms of percentages then Like 80% of postmodernist thought could be reasonably classified as leftist >eliminate the posibility of a pragmatic solution becuase it is entrenched in dogma what isn't "entrenched in dogma" though? all things are affected by all other things. how does the outside world not affect me? my family issues are small but they don't exist in a closed box. I'm an archetypal incel Jow Forumstard scum and my sister is an archetypal tumblr dyke. these things aren't made up, they're real. this situation is completely political, everything is.
Jordan Morris
Imagine watching so much YouTube you assume your sister's psychotherapy is leftist
Noah Nelson
imagine being so secure in your belief that you lack any personal biases or quirks that you smugly try to derail a thread about someone with an honest problem because you don't like how he explained it
Nolan King
Fucking libtards are stunning aren't they?
Julian Fisher
>Can you talk in terms of percentages then >Like 80% of postmodernist thought could be reasonably classified as leftist It influenced the left but it is not leftist by nature. Derrida and Foucault have distanced themselves from marxism.
You keep missing the point when I say if you want advice don't turn it into your soapbox. When a problem can be solved, there is no needed to make it convoluted by introducing variables that are redundant. I can see why you consider yourself immature, you seem to have the annoying habit of talking about absolutely nothing of value as if it is of utmost importance like most arrogant 20 year olds. And this thread is the example of what I said. The focus has shifted from your sister to something else.
Landon Sanders
Well there you go then. What do you recommend
Noah Long
Roofies. I swear to god I'm going to burn this board to the ground one day
Juan Jenkins
that doesn't help me
Julian Cox
It worked for bill Cosby
Anthony Powell
Read back the posts. Take time to absorb it. The answer is there.
Luke Sanchez
I don't want to go back and read the posts like some self harming libtard cuckqueen
Hudson Roberts
Shut the fuck up and get out of my thread
Gabriel Torres
...
Noah King
>>>/death/
Robert Reyes
This, no wonder she's crazy.
Nolan Gray
You're making it about you. If you love her ignore the politics ignore you and be there for her. Jesus Christ