The new Republican administration in Washington issued a blunt warning: Unless Europe quickly set up its own unified army, the U.S. would be compelled to undertake an “agonizing reappraisal” of its commitment to defend its European allies.
The year was 1953, and the main target of American ire was France, whose delay in ratifying the European Defense Community treaty, signed the previous year, meant that preparations for a federal European army had to be paused. But the pressure applied by the Eisenhower administration backfired spectacularly: A joyous choir of French lawmakers broke into the “Marseillaise” when France’s parliament finally rejected the treaty in August 1954. The idea of a joint European defense policy was shelved for decades.
Today, the push for European autonomy in defense—and even for a common European Union army—is gathering momentum again, in part because of doubts in many European capitals about President Donald Trump’s willingness to defend the continent against a renewed threat from Russia. Mr. Trump’s abrupt decision to withdraw U.S. forces from Syria, which prompted Defense Secretary Jim Mattis to resign, has added new urgency to the drive.
As a European myself I like to get fucked in the ass FYI like a slave I am thank you very much.
Dylan Gray
not complelty untrue, i am really starting to miss nazi today. The state of the german people is pretty scary, and it is coming from a frenchman.
Only angry german seem to be a bit based.
Cooper Ramirez
SAGE or ignore all question threads and Cortez threads. They are the same people.
Levi Mitchell
So is trump a ZOG Guy? Him pulling out of Europe is giving them the excuse they need to create a nameless stateless EU army full of niggers to quell any uprisings in the land
Jack Hernandez
>A joyous choir of French lawmakers broke into the “Marseillaise” when France’s parliament finally rejected the treaty in August 1954.
All the angry Germans moved to Australia and became angry bruces during that whole imprisoning 4 million Germans in concentration camps thing. Australia took them in as asylum seekers.
Liam Bailey
>European autonomy >European >autonomy Was?
Gabriel Turner
Europe really needs to step up and defend itself. It’ll have more self esteem if it does.
Go be a faggot somewhere else. Europe is rightful American bitch and God Willing it will stay that way.
Carter Rodriguez
If only our european leaders weren't unsufferable cunts and pledged to commit more money into joint defence and military coordination. They refused the american (trump's) plan just because the president isn't a liberal weaboo refugee bootlicker.
Carson Wilson
EU army? Under the orders of Merkel,Junker.Makron and the like?
Hell no.
Chase Foster
Why do you faggots want WW3 so badly.
Kayden Lewis
I for one welcome our new mongol overlords.
Brody Jones
The EU should try to get Russia to join. Would solve a lot of their problems. No seriously. Get Russia to join. And allow them to annex Ukraine.
Luis Young
Because even if the EU army existed Russia could just sweep through Europe. The only thing that's stopping it is the US and its bases around the world. If Putin decided to do something stupid he would get slapped in the head with one of the missile strikes from their bases. So the only thing keeping the balance in the world are the US bases stopping any more expansion.
Nicholas Gutierrez
Burger generals say NATO would slow them down and they prefer bilateral defense relations with Romania and Poland. They're hellbent on the idea of preventing having a hegemon in Europe and would shoot us for fun alone.
Germany is expected to resist than, in fact. But you being a good lapdog is no bad either.
Austin Gomez
>german army is shit
hurr durr lets make euroamy
Ian Jenkins
That so-called 'EU Army' won't be used to protect Europe but will be used to violently oppress anybody going against the EU's wishes such as the yellow vest uprising in France, the riots in Catalonia and the V4 coming together to say no to migrants.
Caleb Watson
>implying modern beta male pencil pusher sit-down-to-pee euros can make a real army
Germany, The Netherlands and Belgium have absolute shit armies. Merging them with the french army would never benefit the army itself. It would just be another budget we could scrap millions off per year for some stupid gibs policy
Logan Parker
>European This term is racist and nationalist. Please use the acronym EU, which is a trademark.
Tyler Turner
Why the fuck is it always a kraut posting these pro-EU threads? I'm not getting drafted to fight for Crimea, fuck off Hans
Liam Wilson
If you actually think that anybody in Brussels sees Ukraine and Ukrainains as anything other than a leverage for their interests then you must be blind. EU doesn't really care about humans other than members of the ruling elite.
Jace Bennett
Poland alone would wreck the entire US army.
Liam Nguyen
Europe has no sovereignty to defend because it is not a country. Europe is a continent, like Asia. Is there an Asian army? No, the countries within Asia are sovereign. Same goes for Europe.
Gabriel Clark
When the winged hussars arrive
William Allen
If we have our own military what it accomplishes is that it reduces US influence.
Russia isn't going to start a nuclear war of annihilation where both it and the EU ceases to exist.
Kayden Collins
Why would anyone fight for anything less than their own country.
There are no United States of America. Just 50 states doing their own thing.
Liam Johnson
You only have to convince the working class to fight and they are cheaply bought when you tell them that they are part of a big important country that is really powerful.
Look at the US or Russia.
Luke Lewis
Americans are the kings of double think. Dont bother. EU bad. US good. Even though they are the same thing. Why? Because murica.
Kevin Diaz
>EU bad. US good. Even though they are the same thing. >same thing Even if citizens of one of those two have Rights to defend their lives and their private property even with firearms? I think there's quite a big fucking difference between a slave and a free man.
Dylan Carter
good luck,
people fight for their countries because of patriotism take any old european country, family worked this land, they fought for it, some died for it, they bled into the fucking soil before eventually being buried beneath it. No other group than the population has this relationship to their country.
EU is a fake construct, it is a union of African immigrants. It is the destruction of Europe and all of our cultures and it implies the replacement of workers and the forced mobility displacement of the working class. And for all of that the shit EU class is still disrespecting its own working class. There is no case to be made for the EU, it has nothing, it offers nothing.
I can defend my property with fire arms. I think you are confusing your local failure with EU policy.
Which is the nice thing about the EU. You can have local policy. On these things.
Christian Mitchell
>I can defend my property with fire arms. post link where it says that
Jonathan Lee
The US is far faker, far more manufactured, far more immigrant and far blacker.
Guess it will never happen. Oh wait.
Caleb Powell
Then why did that guy in American History X go to jail when he was just defending his house and private property?
Carson Martinez
I can own shot guns and rifles and I can defend my house with lethal force. Google it yourself.
Brandon Long
Oh and we got rid of right of birth citizenship to stop blacks coming here. We make refugees that arrive here live in camps in the middle of nowhere and dont give them money so they REFUSE to come.
Dont fall into the same traps as the British. It isn't the EU fucking you over. It's your own leaders.
Camden Flores
>I can own shot guns and rifles Only with the licence which your State gives you. Good luck with that. Also post the law source or fuck off.
Logan Reyes
>only with a licence. Americans have licences too. Dont be such a spastic.
>Google for me or I wony believe it! This is why you are so ignorant. No one will do it for you. Inform yourself or stay stupid.
Jaxson Bell
>movie are IRL Suck that Brussels cock that's brainwashing you a bit harder.
Ryan Powell
It's painful to think there are people mentally retarded enough to think that Russia has the *ability* let alone willingness to invade and conquer Europe. Like they played Call of Duty and were like "holy shit this is real!". Where is Russia hiding all of it's supply battalions and extra infantry and tank divisions.
Fuck you if you believe this, your hysterical bullshit fosters a lower level of public dialogue and you do it to take the focus of real threats facing Europe that it's losing to, enemies within.
But what if Russia was a part of the EU? You guys need to think outside the box here.
Jonathan Diaz
Is any one besides germany benefiting from the eu?
Jayden James
Yeah they have for a concealed fucking carry you retard. You are free to open carry if you want moron.
Bentley Lopez
They have a lot of mothballed 80s tanks. Both sides in this argument use Russia as a bogeyman. Americans use the Russian bogeyman to insist we wont survive without pax Americana. The EU insists we need our own military to stand up to the Russian bogeyman.
True. That's why I think an EU navy and airforce would be good. But with zero ground troops. So Europe can secure the Mediterranean and gain air superiority if it needs in the middle east or north Africa but has no chance to supers it's citizens.
Ryan Davis
Traitors called the EU Parliamentaries.
Jackson Powell
Effeminate German hiding behind Poland
Alexander Edwards
There are places in the US where guns are completely illegal. There are places where getting a gun is a process. There are places where getting a gun is no questions asked. I happen to like that my state doesn't just hand out weapons but I can still easily have one. Even getting a car is a process. One that makes us all better off. Stop being a faggot.
Wyatt Sullivan
>Vladimir Putin's Russia looms Looms where? Looms over the loo maybe. Our economy is in absolute shambles, and as soon as the overheated real estate market pops (San Francisco like situation), we're going to be even worse than in the 90's, only now we have mobile phones. People were talking about how we will be re-absorbing Belorussia soo, but that's fucking laughable that would instantly cause an economic recession, like it did in 2014 with Crimea.
This is straight up Military-Industrial Complex lobbying for American Shabbos Goiym, everyone with a brain knows present day Russia can barely hold itself together. What do they think is going to happen, we're going to just OOORAH and invade Europe? lolmao
Alexander Myers
>Europe will only submit to Europe by force. ??
Michael Johnson
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Hudson Nguyen
>Stop being a faggot. Says a faggot that loves taking it in the ass from his masters in Brussels.
Tyler Rodriguez
>What do they think is going to happen, we're going to just OOORAH and invade Europe? lolmao
Yes, this is unironically what these brain dead cunts believe.
Zachary Perez
not without nukes eu states should have enough nukes to fend off both russia and the circumicised golems from usa
Oliver Gray
Europe will submit to the new (((Europe))) by force
And who would bother starting a war in the age of nukes anyway? Doesn't matter what you fight over, it's definitely not worth risking getting your fucking capital city blown to hell.
Alexander Bailey
So true Russia should join the EU. I think being part of the euro would help u guys.
Ethan Scott
The EU does not actually exist, it's just a handful of politicians pooling stolen money.
Lincoln Long
In terms of men willing to die for their country, Russia has more soldiers then all of Europe.
That's what happens when you destroy nationalism.
Brayden Rivera
yea nice job capturing Murmansk, totally italy is at fault
Nathan Bennett
But we are not states we are nations. Now that, next EU elections, we will put traitors where they belong this concept of sovereign nations will become more clear.
Isaac Wright
You are a whiney baby and you live in a cucked mini country by your own admission. You cant own guns.
>Russians would rather die than live. >Euros would rather live than die. Same as it ever was.
Michael Perez
>kraut pushing for an EU army
Imagine my shock
Logan Peterson
Russia can go fuck itself with its worthless meme ethnicities and its filthy and subhuman affinity for its disgustingly communist past.
t. Russian
Chase Turner
how fucking stupid are you? EU is not Europe
Ryan Williams
You can't have an army if everyone speaks a different language.
Nathan Bailey
The talks are open after brexit, because with Britain the eu army would never be possible. Since Britain is leaving, the EU will try to use the opportunity. The plan will apparently crash because of Austria, though.
Ryder Diaz
I say otherwise.
Carter Thompson
I don't want an EU-army to be used to ensure the genocide native Europeans. The EU-army will mainly be used to crush future rebellions.
Aaron Brown
Germany desperate to force all Europe to defend them Why they keep pushing EU army
UK and France still Nuclear powers, so Putin will have to just be content with taking Germany and then stopping
Elijah Gonzalez
They'll all have a common language. Farsi.
Jackson Phillips
someone replace eu flag with israeli flag?
Jaxon Long
>The plan will apparently crash because of Austria, though. havent heard about it. any specifics?
Justin Brooks
>give up your guns >give up your currency >give up your court system >give up your freedom of speech >give up your army
Gee I wonder if the EU is planning on becoming a dictatorship in Europe.
Jeremiah Kelly
>The US is far faker The US is 400 years old and it was forged in blood. EU is what, like 70-80 years old at most and the only relationship we have to it is that it is oppressive towards us.
Do you understand the difference or do I have to elaborate further?
