I have an actually interesting pol topic

>become better persons
Problem is who is deciding what a "better person" is? The ruling pseudo-socialists? Say you like monarchy or anything that isn't the current politcal climate and it will affect your ability to do business or even function in day to day life. Like ex-cons trying to get jobs but this time it will be you for saying you don't think importing a million muslims is good for the nation.

Will lead to immense ideological groupthink and inability to question. Will lead to mass death. Arguably will weed out non-performing degenerates and make the base of society stronger.

Yeah this.

>Russkie commie approving of a totalitarian police state big brother database
Big surprise.

I've been following this thing since it was a whisper and it's going to be interesting to see it bloom. In the past, a bad score led to things like not being able to take a flight or train. Or not being able to rent a car. I thought it was kind of a joke at first.

It's the most interesting thing happening right now in governing a billion people.

Of course, this petty tyranny of doling out brownie points and demerits doesn't apply to the ruling oligarchs, who are free to engage in murder, corruption, stealing billions to enrich their family, putting their "princeling" offspring up in million dollar penthouses while at school in the USA...

This is old news. If it comes here and it is equal and statistics are released we will have more ammunition for race realism as black people as a collective will have horrible social credit and Jews will have really high ones.

This is what I wonder about. This is the true implementation of Law, so I'm not so sure they'll escape (for at least the first couple years)

>in the past
So have they made it matter any further? Have people started gaming the system?

IMO, it’s overrated as a concept and too clunky/unfeasible to work on a large scale, especially given who’s making it.
It’s just a series of algorithms at the end of the day, and given the Chinese prospensity for cheating at absolutely everything they possibly can, it’s only a matter of time until they figure out how to game this system too.
Ultimately it’s just another way for the upper class to try and keep the proles in line, given that the party lives in perpetual terror of them waking up to the abhorrent conditions they live in and overthrowing them, like every single Chinese regime before.

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Eh, unfortunately there are still a lot of these Sovok-loving faggots roaming the streets. Hopefully they'll die off eventually.

It's Animal Farm, and high ranking party members are so above the rest of the livestock. They have bought up much of Canada, like Vancouver, with all their loot. Those bastards want to ensure an iron grip on their cash cow of peasant slaves forever through these tactics.

>Problem is who is deciding what a "better person" is?
For starters, everybody has generally the same idea as to what a good, reliable and responsible person is.

>The ruling pseudo-socialists?
Someone has to do something, even if there is always a possibility to fail entirely, or get an imperfect result. Chinese Communist government so far has a great record of success and competence, so they would succeed more likely than someone else.
>Burger has nothing to say on point and resorts to namecalling
-.-

>Namecalling
>ch*hk/po/

Dollars to donuts if Canada don't boot Trudeau they'll try this.

I think you are all secret communists, dreaming of the glory days of Soviet empire. The Red Star is still all over Russian military uniforms and equipment, guess it could be a case of being to cheap to update. Russians regularly say what a great guy Stalin was.

So, in what way is that an ultimate goal of the Chinese philosophy? If I'm not mistaken, Neoconfucianism doesn't have such a need, and sees the law as a more informal and intangible subject.

As mentioned, It fits Chinese culture organically, it empowers its' directives, as opposed to the Western culture, wherein it contradicts certain concepts.

Well, except traitors, russophobes and cucks, that is.

>For starters, everybody has generally the same idea as to what a good, reliable and responsible person is.

Every culture has massively different ideas of what that is. Muslims would use it to impose the absolute theocracy. Germans would make it so everyone to the right of Jack Reed couldn't get two nickels to rub together.

>Someone has to do something, even if there is always a possibility to fail entirely, or get an imperfect result.

They will use it to stomp down on dissent and impose utter societal obedience to the party line. If your daughter is gangraped by blacks you better it will not serve to punish them, but to make sure you don't act racist in violation of the official creed.

Also I see why the term politically correct originated in SU. You guys have so much faith in the benevolence of a goverment that despises you that its almost endearing, if it wasn't so pathetic.

It was my understanding that the Chinese understood law as an ancient and perfect force. On the same rock as Confucianism. I may be wrong though.

>How do you feel about this?

I love it. It's a fantastic idea. We need to implement it for whites to stop their fucking degeneracy and get white men back to doing productive things instead of wasting their time on bullshit vidya and "based hobbies"

Putin should give it a shot but with Russian values, in Russia it would be a great idea

Russians think different to westerners

Any system that punishes niggers is a great system to me.

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>be me
>chink
>post meme about chinkland on social media
>chink social credit officers find my post and track my ip
>score drops
>lose almost all social privileges
>mfw this happened because of a meme

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It's such a meme to say; but a relatively light version of what it'd become was literally that Black Mirror episode, with a bit of the Orville one where everyone has upvote records, cause that's the form it'll take eventually when the clandestine one the Chinese are stealing/copying theirs the US int services are already using becomes common knowledge.
Go ahead & couple all that with the recent UK thing talking about making always having a smartphone mandatory like it is with ID.

Thing is, only Legalism declares obedience to authority as an ultimate goal. Confutianism has principles, and some laws may be good or may be bad, according to them, and only good laws need to be enforced.

But, in general, Chinese philosophy sees the authority of law as something that makes man a man, and not a beast.

Just another proof that chinks are commie NPCs/Insects.

Their civilization is hell. Worst than fucking Brazil.

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its actually worse than that in the west people post memes and get fired ,people refuse them rent and so forth actually its more insidious in the west

Well, Russian culture would be more like "neutral" on it. But Putin is simply politically incapable of doing any major projects, aside from throwing money to build something (9/10th stolen)

brutalisim is so fucking ugly why would anyone want to live in that cheap soulless concrete shit

It's shelter I guess; but that's really far less of a concern than the fact it's fucking Chinese built & a deathtrap.
Those buildings aren't "soulless" at all.

that is actually kinda spooky

>why the term politically correct originated in SU.
Nope. America. Popularised in the 1970s also in America.

You obviously have no understanding of the Russian culture (and during the Soviet Times)

you aren't wrong, ausfriend, but atleast its not integrated into government and permanently affecting more than just our job and housing, unlike what the chinks are going to do.

trypophobia, now the trolls will post and I'm out lmao

You could build up your score by praising Xi Jinping Thought for months, so you can spend it with a solid week of shitposting and still remain in the good books.

good point it only matters on the zeitgeist of today whereas china will have that shit like a bad std for a good 80 years

The most interesting point so far is the extremification of internet slang. The Chinese can only reference things in vaguer and vaguer ways. The Chinese government can not keep up. It's causing a mutation of language that can not be understood by but a few on their internet.

This could lead to authorities listening for certain odd words that are used only in gov-avordance schemes.

Using non-approved words will automatically flag your social credit account for review.

>Let baby get killed by truck-kun
Now get punished for it.

I rate chinas method

definitely, chinks aren't ones for individual rights, so its even less likely they'll expunge it even if it turns out to suck.
>You could build up your score by praising Xi Jinping Thought
I guess, but thats assuming that your score is dependent upon recent events over older ones, which knowing the chinks, will most likely not be the case. I feel they'll probably just average your score from all events you have on record.

That's what courts and laws and shit are for.

That's an interesting point. This isn't something the government could ever safely roll back. It's going to exist forever

>courts and laws and shit
Outmoded 20th century concepts. We will use blockchain instead.

Will it make them be less insect like?

Exactly, a change as drastic as a literal social credit is gonna be impossible to scrub out of your society, no matter how hard the chinks try

And it's useless in white countries. People didn't lock their doors, bikes, helped eachother. And then came the multiculturalism and niggers. And all the good will dissapeared.

Chinks are not human so they need an ai hivemind ruling over them

Hey Boris,

Would the commie nomenklatur also get ratings? Would their ratings be public? How would they be rated? Same as the plebs "-1 for jaywalking"?

What would be the penalty in the system for trying to destroy the system. Say with a revolution.

>What would be the penalty in the system for trying to destroy the system.
That wold be at LEAST -40 good boy points and no playstation for a month.

>-40 good boy points
t-that mean.... no... NO NOOOO
>NO TENDIES

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>Would the commie nomenklatur also get ratings?
It's yet another side benefit, actually. It will severely weaken corruption. There can be no corruption, if the investigative device is machine, and human supervisor is not in any way connected with the person supervised. Firstly, No Quid pro Quo for the supervisor. Secondly, an impossibility of tampering with it as an individual person.

As for the rest of it - why do you ask me? I'm not the one designing it.

>What would be the penalty in the system for trying to destroy the system. Say with a revolution.
A prison or a bullet, as always.

>why do you ask me? I'm not the one designing it.
You technocrats are always such slippery motherfuckers.

you have bought into this communist stuff way too hard

why does china steal american tech and is always behind

why is russia so poor?

you still have these brutalist communist buildings that no one would want to live in

communist governments always want more power at the expense of micromanagement

if i gave any human the power over you they would do what they think is best

1st for them
2nd for you

It will either not work and they'll scrap it. It will work and piss off all the chinese ant workers and they revolt and millions die like they always have done, or people figure out how to abuse it and society doesn't improve.

china has a quote

"remember you have a dream but china has a bigger dream"

Two paths
1984
Or
Revolution

I hope 2nd happens, America could easily supply guns

So it only proves Poland is not white because despite being mostly homogenous anything left unsupervised for more than a minute swaps owners.

>communist governments always want more power at the expense of micromanagement
Obviously and historically false.

>why does china steal american tech and is always behind
>why is russia so poor?
Why do you ask?

yeah, im sure this will end well
its not like you can bribe the guys working on the system/a.i
>muh its an a.i you cant bribe it
its not going to be fully automated

ccp party members will surely be judged by the same system kek

soviet mentality and catholicism

Stalin and Mao both micromanaged their economy and sucked at it

they are rhetorical questions because you obviously side with communist ideals

Yep. You can trust your fellow man implicitly in a natural state. The natural state is a tribe/village/tiny town.

Everybody knows everything about anyone, so any crime and misdeed anyone commits will haunt him forever and always.

Than, cue Urbanisation. This state is destroyed. A man no longer has incentive to always strive to be a better person, and no reason to rely on fellow man (or not betray a fellow man). This is how decadence destroys all societies, and the reason Chinese society survived since the beginning of history is their tradition of Maintaining Face. This all is also what the purpose of the Social credit score is.

>Implying the score can't be manipulated in any way to fit the status quo

Tyrone doesn't take a negative credit hit for the things he does, its whitey's fault. You, on the other hand, do.

Than, cue Urbanisation. This state is destroyed. A man no longer has incentive to always strive to be a better person, and no reason to rely on fellow man

in urbanization all you can do is rely on man
you are disconnected from anything that makes you self sufficient except man

Maintaining Face is just manipulation

Chinese society survived since the beginning of history is their tradition of Maintaining Face

can you elaborate?

that is the problem of this thing in the west people not playing by the rules

No, its the post soviet mentality that can be observed in all post soviet countries.

whats going to happen with xi dadas family members then? will he renounce them? you cant be associated with people with low credit score or yours will take a hit

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All you dumb fucks praising it for reintroducing the rule of law are forgetting the shitskins and roasties will start at +9001 brownie points

dude that whole article is silly
xi dada uses this shit as espionage
china as a govt funds companies to gain a competitive edge

the low credit score is do as i will, not do as i do

Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day.

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>Be chinabug
>Be walking down sidewalk
>Person hit by car, car flees
>I can save them, because reasons
>My options are:
>A) save them, but then be held accountable for their hospital bills after, or be charged for murder if they don't survive
>or
>B) ignore them and lose 500 social credit points, disqualifying me from shopping at the real-food supermarket, using the internet, getting a job, going to college, or renting a house

Such is life in the middle kingdom.

id rather hit something i aimed at

but as stated before by russia the Confucius law allows suing anyone

social credit score is not about doing the right thing by human standards

How does a neet get any points?

And for now, you can hop in your hoveround and scoot your fatass to the gun store. They can't. And it only has to work once.

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State powers over the citizens must be minimised, not maximised. Societal credit scores are too invasive into citizen's lives.
All power corrupts. The credit scores will be used corruptly.
This all reeks of Stalinist purges against "saboteurs" when malignant persons would lie to the authorities so that the victims of their lies went to Siberia while the liars were rewarded with status and goods.
The same thing will happen with social credit scores. Ratting on and lying about your fellow citizens will become a significant method of improving your own score. There will be no social trust.

It's a dystopian tool used to subjugate the masses and the elites who run China will be exempt from it. It basically works as follows:

the first few instances of "low credit related terrorism" will result in apartheid, where "low social credit" citizens are banned from entering "high social credit" areas because "low social credit" citizens are more likely to commit terrorist acts.

those "high social credit" exclusive zones will grow until they cover almost the entire country, with the "low credit" citizens packed like sardines into slums and used as slave labor, all in the name of "protecting high credit citizens from terrorists".

"low credit" citizens will constantly be told "work will set you free" and that they can join the "nobility" in the "high social credit" zones if they become good enough citizens (but of course, it will be almost impossible to acheive, because within a generation or two the "nobility" will consider all people from "low social credit" areas to be scum, and the state will never trust them because they've seen the atrocities committed by the state)

almost all "class movement" will be people from high-credit-score families being exiled to "low credit" areas for criticising the government or breaking social taboos, or advocating for better treatment of "low credit" citizens...

within a decade or two they will have recreated feudalism

Im pretty sure you dudes would get a kick out of this

Someone who plays video games for 10 hours a day, for example, would be considered an idle person, and someone who frequently buys diapers would be considered as probably a parent, who on balance is more likely to have a sense of responsibility," Li Yingyun, Sesame's technology director told Caixin, a Chinese magazine, in February

shilling

>national reputation system being developed by the Chinese government. By 2020, it is intended to standardise the assessment of citizens' and businesses' economic and social reputation, or 'credit'.
Litteral mark of the beast as professed in the Bible

ITS THE END TIMES THE END TIMES ARE NEAR

FIRST INDIA NOW CHINA TOO
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AAAAAAAAAAAA hold me Christ.

man be intelligent with your answers

>Implying it won't be used to keep whites in check while niggers nog freely.

imagine if yelp was for people

So...

is like video game stats irl?

>state enforced good boy points

yes

Every day PRC seems to be moving closer and closer to full communism. I can already taste the victory of socialism in the air and there is literally nothing west can do to stop it.

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