My bf was raised to be cucky towards other boys as a child and lets other men use him as a doormat. He's afraid of disagreeing with other men and changes his opinions to suit them.
When his friends playfight with him he just gives up instantly. He has never won and doesn't even try. I want to see him trying to win, having fun while doing it and to be able to defend himself.
He says competing is for stupid animals, but in reality he's just afraid to confront someone. He's "too intelligent to win". His friends think he's a joke.
How can I ethically make boyfriend more competetive with other men? Would sexual jealousy awaken his natural male instincts? How can I help him?
That or make his ass take up a martial art or boxing.
Carter Cook
Maybe just accept him for who he is? Failing that, tell him how you feel and see if he's willing change. If that doesn't work, then try figuring out something he's good at, and push him to do more of that. Most (not all) guys get competitive when they feel like they're good at something and want to hold on to that top spot. Trying to make him jealous will not do shit besides damage his trust in you.
Why do you date cucks OP? Do you find having a second pussy attractive?
Jayden Kelly
So your bf isn't a confrontational nigger this means he's beta? The only thing that seems beta to me is that he's hanging around people who don't seem like they're really his friends. (Then again he's dating one) But to answer your final question: fuck no If he gains any sort of back bone from you trying to get out his "sexual instincts" you'll no it when he calls you an unloyal cunt and breaks up with you for getting flirty around other guys.
just talk more into him that he should change(it would be good for him anyway), dont ask me what exactly how
Carson Murphy
First paragraph really describes me socially most of the time. Second one not at all, friend tried to wrassle me while we were drinking, let me tell you, if both parties are untrained, the Jow Forums dude wins every time.
Justin Nelson
Just start fucking his alpha friends. Sounds like you really want to, and it will make him realize that if he wants you back he'll need to man up.
James Myers
Nah man I'm pretty fit but one of my friends is taller and fat, and holy fuck is he hard to fight. Nigga just can't be moved.
Brayden Hernandez
secretly administer steroids or cocaine
Samuel Sanders
Life involves confrontation, even if you don't go looking for it. If you want to achieve anything worthwhile in your life, you're sometimes going to have to fight & compete to get what you want. It's not good to be an aggressive dickhead who goes around starting conflicts, but it's also not good to be a passive doormat who withdraws himself from competition as soon as he's challenged. There's a lot of middle ground in between those two things.
Camden Brown
GYM is the answer you are looking for. It will change his hormone levels and his attitude.
Also he will become more attractive for you.
Christopher Hughes
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Brandon Bennett
Yep, make sure he wil be really sweating and make noise when working out lol. For real, thats what creates the 'mental muscles'
Lincoln Johnson
The absolute state of board
Parker Lopez
This. Men can't choose to be pacifists or other men take advantage of them.
If people are your friends or loved ones you shouldn't have to worry about dealing with it from them. Should you defend yourself from malicious people? Yeah sure but that's not what we're talking about
Oliver Lewis
Know what’s beta and fucking weird?Sitting around watching their bf “playfight” with other dudes, wondering if he’s man enough for your loser ass. Lol know what hot chicks are doing? None of that.
Ethan Ortiz
It happens in almost every party and is completely normal social act, especially after a few drinks. You'd know that if you weren't a beta yourself.
Isaac Mitchell
>Would sexual jealousy awaken his natural male instincts I hope you're implying what I think you're implying. Yes you should fuck his friends.
Dominic Torres
Once and if he becomes more of a man, you understand of course, that he will get a better girlfriend. Right?
Samuel Gonzalez
Poor guy has a shit girlfriend and shit friends
Bentley Collins
This. Serious.
Jordan Morales
And a shit sense of masculinity.
Caleb Myers
>Playfighting is a good senes of masculinity
Whatever you say insecure fag.
Jayden Moore
CS:GO would just make him mad, that game is broken beyond repair
Easton Parker
Playfighting trains men for real confrontations. If you've never done it you don't count as a man.
Lifting weights or using roids doesn't train a man to be a man. Men need physical confrontation and learn to lose and win to become men.
Dominic Adams
desu I love being uncompetitive though, that's been my personality since I was a kid. I think you shouldn't try to change who he is
Oliver Harris
Why you love it?
Jack Harris
Sprinkle crushed dbol over food, half dose. Much easier
Brandon Walker
Why did you get a bf like that if you were just going to try and change him? Seeing guys playfight seems really childish to me. But the fact that flirting with his friends came to your mind shows your fucked up interests. Like others said, if you do that, he will resent you or he might change, but he will turn into a dick because he will remember how he was nice to you and you took advantage. But, it is true it's not good to be a doormat. You can bring this up to him and challenge him in everyday situations to take a more assertive stance. Let's say, instead of him letting others talk down to him, have him try and say something back and with a strong voice to have them back off.
Ryan Gomez
Don't know. Maybe it's just because it's my personality and I'd rather be me than anyone else, even a hot Chad. I'm uncompetitive but not really unconfident.
Ethan Reed
What are you on? If he "man's up" by going back to a cut like that then he is still a beta
Joshua Wilson
Go back to the proudboys subreddit
Nolan Gutierrez
This
Brayden Morris
>would sexual jelousy stop it sounds like your trying to find reasons to cheat, you know this is a terrible idea that will only shatter his self confidence and make the issue worse even if its only just light flirting
make him go to a gym for something like judo, tell him its not fighting its some meditative excercise and then he'll get a taste for body slamming people. sell him on the fancy cultural side of it, bribe him maybe or just force him. if you can push it something like boxing or mma would be better but he doesnt sound lik hed be up for it so something a bit less directly intense would be better
Luis Wilson
Found a salty goldnova faggot
Justin Morales
if your boyfriend is an adult he should probably take up some kind of regulated fighting instead of “play fighting” like a child. also, he’s right that chimp alphaing on peoole doesn’t solve real problems or pay bills.
Isaac Sanchez
We don't live in a perfect world. do you have siblings? Male friends? People are inherently competitive with each other, it's just the way things are. The kind of "bullying" stuff that OP is describing would stop pretty quickly if her boyfriend showed a basic willingness to stand up for himself and earn respect.
And I'm not just talking about "malicious" people, not at all. I'm talking about how you would have to behave in your career, or as was hinted at in OP's post, to maintain a relationship. Anything worth having, you're going to have to compete for it a bit. If you see something good and you think "I want that," you can bet that a few other people want the exact same thing. Are you just gonna roll over, withdraw, and let one of them win? Or are you gonna do your absolute best to make sure YOU are the one who gets what you want?
The world is never going to be this perfect Communist utopia where everyone gets an equal portion of everything and they're happy with it. People just are not wired that way. Either you fight for what you want, or you pick up the scraps that nobody is fighting for and settle for a shitty life.
Leo Cox
>Playfight Do you goto furry conventions or are they all just manchildren?
Id say get him into competitive games as well. Did he have siblings or is he an only child? Me and my brother always tried to be better at eachother in melee, tetris, counter strike, sf4, whatever, and I just carried that to friends and being better at my job.
Thomas Bell
Does your boyfriend make unreasonable demands of you!?!
Aiden Parker
It's not unreasonable to tell someone to defend himself.
David Bennett
What would you do if another man confronted you and didn't care about your personality?
Logan Smith
try and get him to join a recreational sport. I doubt he'd go for rugby cause he sounds like a pussy, but that would be the best way to do it. at the very least get him to play floor hockey or flag football, anything that forces competition. you could even play with him if its a co ed sport. softball is a last resort but thats probably the easiest one to get in to.
Gabriel Miller
Tell him to spread the most believeable missinformation about the man beating him up. Be your boyfriend. >Show everyone love and compassion to hide your true motives. >Find the alpha of the group. >Request to spend time alone with the alpha. >Wait until the alpha is by himself. >Frame him with something awful that you know people would believe only he would do. >Expose him. >Everyone hates him and you become alpha. >Feel no guilt. If he didn't want you to ruin his reputation he shouldn't have used you as a punching bag.
Ian King
>Acting sweet and spreading intentional missinformation to become the alpha. Is this the plot to Mean Girls? Holy shit.
Carson Parker
Did you just have a stroke? You just replied to your own post to another post.
Jordan Taylor
Don't try to change him, no matter the reason. It will only make him resent you.
Oliver Miller
Take away the onions
Cooper King
S000000iiiiiii!!!!!
Luis Williams
>t. spineless
Ayden Myers
Op what kind of a woman are you to let a pathetic guy like that stick his dick inside you? Is that really all you’re worth, is a tiny, scared man?
Austin Watson
The tiny man part isn't the problem. It's the fact that op describes him as intelligent but hasn't used emotional and psychological minipulation to get back at the bullies. Taller men tend to be dumber due to the excess testosterone. The best thing to do in a bully situation is get the bigger men to fight eachother so you look smarter and can pass down that inteligence to multiple offspring.
Thomas James
Remember that this is what women think of you if you aren't Chad.
Tyler Long
Update: by the time they realize they were fighting because of you, they've already spent so much time spending money on pissing contests and you've put your money into big financial opportunities and natural resources and you can crush them by snaping your finger.
Jacob Adams
Update When you have more money and resources than your enemy, then your enemies become your slaves, the people who didn't help become your pawns, and the people who were loyal become your inner circle.
Connor Murphy
Lol please tell me you’re not full of shit
Ayden Collins
I'm just fucking around. Noone is that manipulative. I know stupid people are more likely to become bullies but two wrongs don't make a right. I would never want a person who gangs up on smaller people to get hurt for kicks. That's wrong, and you should totally turn the other cheek.
Jordan Adams
>The sarcasm is strong in this one. >Crazy bitch she is.
Find a new boyfriend. He's not going to change overnight, even over a year. Some people are just timid creatures and you can't unlearn a whole childhood of that.
If you can learn to accept his timid nature, then the relationship will continue but I imagine that if you don't feel he'll stand up for himself, there's no way in hell he'll stand up for you if there's ever a real confrontation.
Colton Flores
Or like I said. Op can teach her boyfriend how to emotionally manipulate his enemies for financial gain. Just teach him how to hide his true motives with compassion. Al capone was a scrawny little italian meat ball. You don't think he just took over an entire crime family by getting into fist fights, do you. If brains like al capone had the internet he would have never ended up in prison. With the internet you can use the same financial manipulation tactics without needing to break any laws. If you want to teach your boyfriend how to stand up for himself, encourage him to learn data-science and finance, and while your at it, learn this information with him.