How can I learn to stop hating women?

Ah, my crotch has scare tissue for child abuse. Im far to embarrassed and mistrusting to let anyone get near me.
I wince at everything, have insomnia, I just hope for another shot next lifetime.

Not true OP, I’ve recently meet a girl, she actually makes me feel happy, she asks how I’m feeling if there’s anything I want to tell her like problems, she makes me want to turn my life around and she told me herself no matter what I have done no matter what I do she’ll never stop caring about me.
OP, women with hearts are out there, I know there are because this girl made me cry tears of joy, I’ve told her she shouldn’t worry about me and she told me she’ll never stop caring about me, no one in my life (not even my family) has never made me feel like this.
She made me want to start my life, get a job and move out.
I don’t want to die anymore.
She made me feel loved.

>51.9% of the human population
>because they treat me like garbage and are shitty people

How do you NOT see the flaws in your logic? Shitty people are the rule not the acception, you will meet equal shitty guys as shitty chicks, stop using conformation bias and accept the world fucking sucks.

Ah well that's fucked, sorry to hear that

Most people are shitty, but if you generalize and hate all of them, you prevent yourself from getting close to the few decent ones.

Get mental help and stop being an incel.

let's not lie to the man, a staggering amount of young women right now are terrible people and do not have the capacity to change. just stop caring about them, and you'll learn to hate them less. they don't really get better, you only learn to get over it.

>Read something considered good that is written by a woman, or something that has strong (but realistic) female characters
like what?
>View them as individuals rather than a group
I do view them as individuals. They all treat me like garbage.
>Compare how they treat you to how random men treat you to make sure you, maybe they are not all that different
There are some men that are at least not completely horrible to me
>Stop browsing Jow Forums, Jow Forums, or reading stories about terrible women who fucked their husbands over if you do that
I don't use either of those boards

Why do you think that?

>If every single woman you meet "treats you like garbage," it's likely that you're doing something to start those conflicts.
like what?

>But I think it's more likely something like that saying "If you meet assholes everywhere you go, you're probably the asshole." Good people treat you the way you treat them.
Why do you just automatically assume that every last person except me is some perfect person who all had to use and abuse me because I was an "asshole?"

I already finished university and I met dozens of girls and all of them were horrible.

>Not true OP, I’ve recently meet a girl, she actually makes me feel happy, she asks how I’m feeling if there’s anything I want to tell her like problems, she makes me want to turn my life around and she told me herself no matter what I have done no matter what I do she’ll never stop caring about me.
Sounds like you or she is lying. That's literally not possible.
>OP, women with hearts are out there
Why do you think that?
>She made me want to start my life, get a job and move out.
>I don’t want to die anymore.
>She made me feel loved.
She probably only says that stuff because you're not ugly like I am.

>How do you NOT see the flaws in your logic? Shitty people are the rule not the acception, you will meet equal shitty guys as shitty chicks,
What's more likely, that every single woman in the entire world is a perfect and good person, or that all of them saw an ugly guy like me as an excuse to let their psychopathic behavior out on something they didn't like?
>stop using conformation bias and accept the world fucking sucks.
Why the fuck do you think that anything besides my experience matters in a case like this? Why should I care about how women treat other people? I'm not other people. I'm ugly and women think that that's a good excuse to ruin my life.
wtf is wrong with you?

You completely miss the point. You said that every person you have ever met is an asshole. This can only happen if you are an asshole to everyone, because most people aren't assholes to someone by default.

You have mental problems. You are completely unable to accept the slightest criticism of yourself or see yourself as anything less than a perfect being. Extreme narcissism.

>like what?
Like treating them with hostility, distrust or coldness would be my first guess. Basically that you might be expressing your feelings towards women thru body language or behavior. If you go into an interaction with a new person giving off vibes that you dislike them, they will be inclined to dislike you.
>every last person except me is some perfect person who all had to use and abuse me because I was an "asshole?"
I didn't say "every last person," and I have no idea what has happened to you in your life. But I know from my own life experience that there are plenty of good likable women out there who aren't shitty or abusive.

Expecting a woman to be good is like expecting a dog to talk.

To overcome your hate, you first need to overcome thisnidea that women and men are equal. And then accept them for who they are. Women literally can't help what they do, they just have less agency and humanity.

>You completely miss the point. You said that every person you have ever met is an asshole. This can only happen if you are an asshole to everyone, because most people aren't assholes to someone by default.
They treat me like shit because I'm short and ugly. How could someone possibly know that I'm "an asshole" before even talking to me
For example, I was at the store today and every last woman I walked by that saw me gave me a dirty fucking look.

>You are completely unable to accept the slightest criticism of yourself or see yourself as anything less than a perfect being. Extreme narcissism.
except for the part where I called myself ugly as fuck, you massive retard

>Like treating them with hostility, distrust or coldness would be my first guess. Basically that you might be expressing your feelings towards women thru body language or behavior. If you go into an interaction with a new person giving off vibes that you dislike them, they will be inclined to dislike you.
They still treat me like shit before I even say a word to them.
>But I know from my own life experience that there are plenty of good likable women out there who aren't shitty or abusive.
That's because you aren't ugly and they want something from you.

Understand their mind as well as your own

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>because I'm short and ugly
Oh God, this faggot again. Stop creating these these threads. You never listen to advice.

Excuse me?

For me it was learning about women who's qualities and achievements I admire and reading about women's issues (societal pressure to be man pleasers making them slightly insane) with an open mind.

>They still treat me like shit before I even say a word to them.
In what way? I guess I'm not that ugly, but I'm definitely not so hot that women are always throwing themselves at me either. But I've had good relationships, friendships, friendly co-workers, etc with women.

It sounds like you got hit with a lot of bad experiences early on in your life and now you don't trust any of them. I have no idea what those experiences might've been because you haven't said anything specific. But I think, if you really want to fix this, you've got to confront those experiences, realize that you might've come into contact with shitty individuals who treated you badly, but learn to stop blaming an entire gender for the misdeeds of a few people in your life.

Or maybe you should just try to build a life where you can avoid women as much as you can. Because despite starting a thread asking for advice, you seem pretty quick to shoot down anyone trying to help you, and retreat deeper into the things you already believe instead of listening.

So what is your goal here if you're going to disregard every single advice you're given? Do you just want a place to rant about women?

Oh, and some foundational psychology/biology that explains why women are the way they are.

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I talked to you 5 or 6 times in different threads.
You're frankly one of the most unpleasant people I've ever talked to.

You just want to be pitied. You don't care about doing anything to change your situation, or getting help. You only want to be told you are a poor little soul who has it worst than anybody else, the most unfortunate human being in the whole world, and that you could do nothing ever to do good.

You shoot down every advice, every time someone talks to you about their own story you just bring out how yours is worse, you insult everyone.

I don't think I ever had a confrontational attitude with you till now, yet you called me names every time I tried to help you, minimised my own struggles and showed no empathy for me, made fun of me, disregarded every piece of advice I gave you even if they were honestly good ones that I applied in my own life and worked well.

Maybe people treat you like a piece of shit because you act like one.

I know you won't do it, but change yourself and go to a psychiatrist before you further ruin your life and the life of those around you.

>In what way?
Women that I have never seen or talked to before give me dirty looks as I walk by

Women at work go around and greet everyone else around me friendly ever morning but never say a word to me

I've had women jeer at me when they drive by while I'm out on a run

I've had drinks thrown on me both at parties and in bars by women

Sometimes women run up to me and compare their height to mine and then burst out laughing

Sounds like there's a high probability that you're confusing me with someone else.

>OP says he wants help to stop hating women
>responds to all criticism by justifying his hate
>people are still responding to him when he's clearly just here to argue and reinforce his views

>Women that I have never seen or talked to before give me dirty looks as I walk by
That's probably in your head.
If it actually happens, you probably are giving off a very aggressive vibe because you are so resentful.

>Women at work go around and greet everyone else around me friendly ever morning but never say a word to me
Are you in friendly terms with them? Otherwise, why would they come greeting you.

>I've had women jeer at me when they drive by while I'm out on a run
>I've had drinks thrown on me both at parties and in bars by women
>Sometimes women run up to me and compare their height to mine and then burst out laughing
How often? When? Why? What did they say?
I kinda call bullshit.

Get off of Jow Forums and go see a therapist. The fact that you're asking this question on this board says to me this is just shitty bait and you're just LARPing as someone who wants help.

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Well that sucks. There are definitely some cruel obnoxious bitches out there, I'm not denying that, but you have to live under a rock to honestly believe it applies to all women. Some of what you said here, specifically the first two, COULD apply to you giving off a hostile or unapproachable vibe in your body language or behavior, though. But some of what you're describing is just mean and inexcusable and I wouldn't blame you for being pissed-off about it.

But surely you must have known SOME good women in your life. What about your family? Did all this get kicked off by a bad relationship with your mother?

I've had bad experiences with women too that could've made me cynical, but it's hard to get too deep into "women suck" mode when I think of my family. I have a good relationship with my mom, I have aunts and cousins and two grandmothers who I love and (mostly) respect a lot, so it pokes a few holes in that theory before I can even get started with it.

Very unlikely that there are two faggots who constantly post the same exact things on Jow Forums and other boards and always act the exact same, react with the same words, have the same level of denial and hostility and so on.

But surely you must have known SOME good women in your life. What about your family? Did all this get kicked off by a bad relationship with your mother?
I had two older sisters and a mother all who made it a point to tease me, mock my anxiety issues, and to make sure I knew that they didn't want or enjoy my company.

Post some examples of these threads then.

This guy struggles with some kind of psychosis and makes this same thread once every few weeks just to argue with people. Random women don't actually jeer at him in the street or run up to him and laugh at his height, user. This guy is literally just mentally ill.

You ever heard of Jow Forums?

Why do you think girls dislike you? How do you look like, user? Do you have any mental issues?

>I had two older sisters and a mother all who made it a point to tease me, mock my anxiety issues, and to make sure I knew that they didn't want or enjoy my company.
Well I am not a professional shrink, but it seems pretty obvious that this is the root of your problem right here. People do recover from stuff like this, though, but I do think you'll probably need to talk to a professional shrink if you want to get better. Jow Forums can't be helping you
I do kind of suspect the "running up and laughing at his height" one was a lie, because I've never seen anyone do that irl, but I have seen a photo posted frequently in Jow Forums threads like this where a girl is doing exactly that to a short guy. I suspect OP saw the same photo and he's pretending it happened to him

but Jow Forums is basically pointless if you don't give OP the benefit of the doubt, so whatever. I guess it could've happened

He's gonna say "short and ugly" like always.

You're awfully pompous and vindictive for someone claiming to hold the moral high ground.

I think OP is young. Ive seen those behaviors in women before, but theyre all ones you see when someone is young. Teen girls would run up to you and laugh about your height. If he is dressed weird(like a lot of isolated teens), a woman in a grocery store would look at him weird, especially if he was starring at her in the first place.
OP doesnt sound sexist, just really young.

>but Jow Forums is basically pointless if you don't give OP the benefit of the doubt
That's silly. Challenging people's perception is the entire point of giving advice, user. Our advice, in context with his perception, is to see a mental health professional. The things he describes are pretty reminiscent of paranoid schizophrenia; the constant paranoia that people around him are making fun of him and disliking him, the belief that random people on the street just give him dirty looks for no reason. All of that coupled with either the lie or the delusion that random women run up to him and laugh at his height equals a pretty strong case for mental illness. You and I both know that doesn't happen to him on any kind of regular basis. You and I both know that random women on the street don't mean mug him for no reason. That isn't reality, user. The point of Jow Forums is to give advice that would be the most helpful to the person asking for it, not entertain delusions and give them only the advice that they want. I understand a LOT of people come here only for the advice they want to hear but its kind of imperative that any responsible Jow Forums user combats that mentality.

Nobody claimed that, you've just got issues

See, this why I think OP is a kid. He feels something and projects the meaning he took from it on to you. He feels harmed, so he thinks you meant harm.
All of these things hes doing seem to be things children/adolscents do.

Whole reason Im pointing this out is because I feel like you guys have been coming at this from the wrong angle.

I distrust men, OP. But I dont believe its too late for you.

So I will try and help. What are things you physically like about women?

look at this post: and then try telling me again with a straight face that he isn't trying to harm me

>the belief that random people on the street just give him dirty looks for no reason.
I'm not sure why this is such a difficult thing for you to grasp. Dirty looks from women are the most pervasive and common and omnipresent thing I get from them.

>So I will try and help. What are things you physically like about women?
Literally what?

What are some aspects of womens physical looks do you like or prefer?

Why would you want to know that?

Because its important. What physical aspects do you like about them?

pretty much how these threads go.

Well I agree that he should see a therapist whether he's telling the truth or not, so we've ended up on the same page here.

How is it important? What are you implying here?

Im not implying anything. Im asking what makes a woman attractive(at least in your eyes), I know symmetry is a baseline atreactive thing across cultures. But what makes a woman specifically attractive to you?
For example, in men, I prefer brown hair.

Are you mocking me?
What does it matter what features I find attractive? It's not like my preferences will ever matter.

I know theres a possibility that youre trolling now because you wont answer. But Im hoping you are having the problem of saying you like something about women.
That is ultimately what I am getting at. Tell me one thing you find attractive in a woman.

Not OP, but why are you focusing on physical attraction when he's made a thread about emotional damage?

Its important.If I say why, I feel as though OP will try to skirt around the idea.

So you think I shouldn't hate women because my biology makes me attracted to them? Isn't that a bit hypocritical coming from you?

and because you're so insistent
I like girls that are white, brown hair, cute glasses, and are petite

Okay. So what dont you like physically about women? As in, what either gives you a red flag or just kind of turns you off?

being fat, smelly or dirty

Has there ever been a time youve been mean to someone in real life? (Preferably a woman, but a man will do if you havent been mean to a woman).
This could be in childhood, or adolescence, or now. The time framae doesnt really matter.

Never without provocation

Alright. But you were mean to them. What did they do or say to provoke you, and how were you mean back?

Why are you asking?

I want to know a situation in which you said something hurtful. That is why I am asking.
For instance, my dad told me I was behaving like not the best daughter when I was a child, he was a drug addict who often left me alone with his friends and they would touch me. So in this moment I said, out of anger, "I may not be the best daughter, but you cant even be an okay daddy". I saw he was hurt when I said this, and I didnt feel particularly good afterwards. It might have been the truth, but it was a mean thing to say, no matter the cicumstances behind me saying it were.

Not OP, but all older women (married 40+) actually like me (maybe because of some pity or something), but women my age (32) and younger don't acknowledge my existence.

It really fucks you up when you stand in bank line, see clerk is all charming and smiling with Chad in front of you, and then don't even return a greeting to you when you come up next.

You are a dime a dozen and people like you always make the same excuses for not trying. "I'm short" and "I'm ugly" are literally just you making up reasons for why leople might not like you. If you found people with similar interests to you (yes, even girls) they would overlook stupid shit like that because it doesn't matter. Sure there are shitty people, and being short/ugly isn't great, but if that's all you have to worry about then you're looking for failure.

>How can I learn to stop hating women?
Acknowledge why you hate women, then realise you're the fault because you turned into a salty beta fuck when women didn't want to look at your yugioh cards in school.

There were two women in hs who had excessively powerful social circles that they used to shame two of my friends and I and to make our lives a living hell. They also had extremely rich parents that were members of school and district boards so they got into whatever leadership positions they wanted (like for example student council). My friends and I didn't take any shit from them and constantly talked back and refused to do what they told us to do. It was extremely satisfying to be the only people who didn't give them what they wanted.

Post dace and beight OP. I won't make fun of you, I just wanna know what you're dealing with.

I can imagine. Standing up to your bullies is a weight off your shoulders.
So what was your first crush like? Not physically this time, just the more personal aspects.

That you refuse to answer any questions shows you don't want help. You haven't even said how "short and ugly" you are. Because you are 175cm, and if you admitted that, everyone would rightfully call you mental becauelse that's not short at all.

I've never had a crush on a girl I knew personally. I haven't known a girl personally since elementary school.

>Because you are 175cm
Uhh, no. I'm shorter than that.

If you have taken the time to see, OP did end up answering most of my things. You just need to be patient. God forbid someone is hesitant on the internet after feeling atracked.

Okay, since you habe a distant relationship with your sister and mother, and havent had a girlfriend, what do yoi think is the closest relationship youve had wit a woman is?

>what do yoi think is the closest relationship youve had wit a woman is?
I had a "friend" that was a girl in elementary school but it turns out she wasn't a friend at all and she never talked to me again once 7th grade started.

So 6th grade is the last closest relationship you had with a woman. What is the closest relationship you currently have or have ever had?

>What is the closest relationship you currently have or have ever had?
With what?

Man or woman, but Im guessing it would be a dude.

I have a couple friends that I occasionally talk to who are from hs, once ever two or three weeks.

That's the only regular interaction I've had with people since college outside my job.

I don't talk to my family anymore for obvious reasons.

So what is your height then? What makes you so short that women actually comment on your height?

So what does you day generally consist of. I just graduated and Im looking for a job, mine used to be:
>Cook breakfast
>Go gym
>School
>Work
>School
>Dinner
>Internet
>Sleep
>Driving around if I couldnt fall asleep

>wake up
>go to work
>come home
>eat
>internet
>sleep

So I say, outside of the normal schedule, I leave the house about 2 times a week. To get groceries, and usually an entertainment purpose(I like seeing movies)
How often do you leave the house? Outside the schedule you posted. So groceries, entertainment, food(dining), or trips?

twice a week, usually shopping or getting drive through occasionally

Thats about average for people with trust issues.
So how long has this been your routine, OP?

since college, so for the last three months

Okay. So what are your goals with liking women going to be? Say if someone did magically cure you, what would be your next step?

>So what are your goals with liking women going to be?
What?

So say after this conversation, you magically start being okay with women again. You dont find them mean or nasty anymore. What would be your next goal? Would it be to just continue to live life or get a partner, or some third option?

Oh, man. Maybe you will be cured. lol, you got the quads.

>So say after this conversation, you magically start being okay with women again.
Don't see how that would happen.
>What would be your next goal? Would it be to just continue to live life or get a partner, or some third option?
I would still have extreme anxiety, zero success with women, and be ugly, so looking for a life partner would be futile. I'm too old to ever be married too.