i want to learn japanese
can anyone recommend a book and give me some advices?
I want to learn japanese
Luke Ward
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Aiden Diaz
books are for memelords, use the duolingo app
Nathan Torres
Been studying Japanese for 7 years
>personally, I go to a language tutor after school 5 days a week ($550 a year)
>can recommend an app called Akita, a great Japanese/English dictionary
>start with kana (hiragana/katakana) and basic kanji (Chinese characters) and grammar
>join a Japanese study group on kik, and spend time having conversations in Japanese
>get a book from the language section of your public library
>this one sounds stupid, but watch (NOT DUBBED- dubbed is cancer anyway) anime to practice your pronunciation
Jonathan Hill
thanks for the advices, but
>Been studying Japanese for 7 years
does it really take that long?
will do, thanks
Matthew Martin
Yes, it takes forever. You better be sure about your decision.
Hudson Smith
use memrise if you actually want to learn
duolingo doesn't work for anything other than a handful of phrases
Carson Jones
That's about the average. You can cut it down slightly if you go the immersion route and live in the place but that's expensive. It's not an easy language whatever anyone tells you. There's a lot of dedication needed to be successful. the weeaboo boards maintain a guide as well that you should look at
It contains pretty much everything you could want short of actually going to japan. The order is basically hiragana + katakana then rote memorization with kanji concurrently learning grammar and all the while you should be exposing yourself to jap media and piecing together the language.
Ethan Price
Shadowing is a really important tool that you can implement while watching your favorite anime. I'm not even kidding. Mimic the pronunciation and cadence of the conversations you hear between characters and such.
Also this
Aiden Walker
it takes a LONG time to learn a language, let alone a language that doesn't have common traits (english/spanish, etc)
What do you know about japanese so far?
Andrew Sanchez
im pretty much at point 0
ive just read about the 3 writingsystems and the grammar of japanese. then i wrote some kanjis, which was pretty interesting
im still motivated to learn japanese
thanks. that link is golden
ill give both a try
Jose Jones
dont listen to this retard/troll, telling someone to use duolingo to learn japanese (or any language) is awful advice. the japanese component for that app is particularly bad.
Charles Torres
i've been studying for about a year. here is my progression:
>youtube: namasensei for hiragana/katakana plus introducing very basic grammar
these videos are entertaining and motivating. he makes some mistakes but also shares some good info, and the mistakes are fairly inconsequential if you keep going afterwards. if you care about stroke order maybe look elsewhere.
>youtube: japanese ammo with misa
still doing basic grammar stuff, but covers important topics in detail and provides loads of example sentences. also has patreon options if you want to get extra learning aids, but i never bothered with that personally. also, around this point you will want to start using anki core which i believe you can find on that djt guide website.
>internet: tae-kim's grammar guide
did the whole thing, start to finish. if you did the videos i mentioned, a fair bit up until "special expressions" will be review content. but doing it all over again gives you good practice and drills in concepts. by the time i finished this i was nearly done with the core anki deck, so around here is when you probably would want to set up a mining deck. guide is available on that djt website also. also around here is when you want to start reading. i don't know anything about memrise but i'm pretty sure both memrise and anki are spaced repetition memorization apps. pick which one you like i guess.
>textbook: tobira, gateway to advanced japanese
a lot of people use textbooks genki 1 and genki 2 before transitioning to this one but i didn't care for those books much. so if you were looking for some kind of textbook progression, there you go. i've heard tobira covers up to JLPT N3 and some N2 level reading.
around the 4 month mark I also started using HelloTalk app and found a conversation partner. it's excruciating at first but if you can find a good partner early on then it's a huge advantage. also can post sentences here for correcting.
good luck
Kevin Bailey
Where the fuck you get 5 days a week for 550 bucks
Jeremiah Peterson
>does it really take that long?
Been at it for 7 years too, and I'm still far from considering myself fluent.
It does take an awful lot of dedication. Do know that you're very, very likely not to go through with it. So remember to always have fun learning, if you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong and will end up nowhere.
Personally I started with evening classes for 4 years. Since then conversation tables and self-study since I couldn't find any class of a good enough level. A teacher is valuable, and being surrounded by other people learning it helps a lot too. It's also a great way to meet people and make friends.
So I suggest you start with a proper teacher. Otherwise, my goto is Anki for making my own flashcards.
While I do suggest strongly you start learning katakana/hiragana in the first 6 months, you should hold on actively focusing on learning kanji for a few years, at least until you can make sentences and properly express yourself, otherwise those kanji won't help you with shit. When you do, I've found the books "Kanji in Mangaland" or whatever the equivalent is in your language to be very effective - just look at a book preview on amazon to see what I mean.
Jack Flores
>7 years
>far from fluency
I suspect your study methods are really ineffective. No language takes that long to learn if you do it properly.
Tyler James
enlighten me senpai
how did you learn it?
Elijah Reyes
Doing it in immersion or studying full-time yeah. But if you have a job and a life, it takes a while longer.
Anthony Jackson
Do your kanji with the same discipline as a tranny who takes pills every day
Jose Jones
Owen Phillips
>you start learning katakana/hiragana in the first 6 months
>6 month
he should master it before starting actual language learning. It should take like 1 week top. Or 2 weeks if he is an retard.
>you should hold on actively focusing on learning kanji for a few years
this is next bad advise. Without kanji you cannot read native material. So you can only learn from textbooks. It's ineffective.
When you know kanji and have a text with furigana, you can often learn some new vocabulary without checking the dictionary.
Henry Howard
Stop, you all need to just stop. Not one person in this thread has reached a high level of proficiency do not listen to them. I got good enough to read books and talk fluently in 16 months. Read up on scientific papers about immersion and language acquisition, after that make sure to find somebody that has reached a very high level of proficiency. I started reading about the methods of Khatzumoto and Steven Kaufman.
Henry Adams
You be a fat retarded asian loser who makes anime videos reviews and have some cunt tell everybody that youre not japanese and that youre a fat loser weeb that plays league of legends all day and watched evangelion.