(((Jesus)))

shut up nigger

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yeah im thinking jesus looked like some old anglo saxon king some people say jesus' tribe went to scotland with the coronation stone (stone of jared) and thats why scots are so based

holy leaf post, sorry everyone i need breakfast

Same Here, bud! Time for some pancakes n syrup up here!

>He rejected the jewish religion, its laws, its practices and many of its beliefs.
Jesus did not come to reject Judaism. He came to fulfill its law and prophecies. It was the Jews who rejected Jesus.

first depiction of jesus

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or god or whatever your imaginary friend is

This

Jesus is the fulfillment of old testament prophecies about the messiah to come.

Hi Rabbi

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I mean this is a narrative that exists in some religious circles, but it's not true if you read the bible. For example, IF he didn't reject judaism and its laws, then why did he intervene in the stoning when the mob was simply going to stone that girl to death in order to fulfill the jewish laws? That is a direct rebellion AGAINST the laws of judaism, and this is just one example.
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" is the ultimate rejection of the entirety of the old testament and every law that exists within it, LMFAO.
So I mean you can say this if you want to, but it's just factually untrue with regards to the actual content of the bible.

>Atheism

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jesus condemned a lot of the oral traditions that make up the talmud and was adamant about the reformation of the church, judaism in jesus' time barely resembled the religion of king david and the ancient hebrews

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Jesus wasn't even a real person.

>pic related

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>For example, IF he didn't reject judaism and its laws, then why did he intervene in the stoning when the mob was simply going to stone that girl to death in order to fulfill the jewish laws?

Because the jewish laws are the one's given by God, and God did not order anyone to be stoned. The rabbis did. Jesus came to fulfill the God-given parts of Judaism, not the parts born out of man's own insecurities.

jesus was a genocidal nigger jew who killed native european pagan religion

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bongtism. its a real disease.

This guy and Kubrick are the only good jews

Oh no dude, you misread the bible completely then. In the old testament there are very specific laws and punishments that are clearly commanded to be carried out upon people who sin. Jesus completely rejected this idea and actively intervened between people carrying out these prescripted punishments and their victims.

This is just what is academically accurate to say. This is just what is factually written in the bible. There is no point of argument or debate about any of this, frankly. I mean, I can't force you to believe anything, you can obviously believe whatever you want, but in terms of what is factually written in the bible, what I am saying is accurate and frankly quite well known, as so much as has been made of the harsh laws prescribed in the old testament.
OK bud whatever you say.

(((russian)))

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There are no good jews kike shill

And if Jesus was a nigger with the same credentials would you still say the same thing? Or just because his skin is white you filthy big-nosed kike lover.

Oh no dude, you misread the bible completely then. In the old testament there are very specific laws and punishments that the jewish people are clearly commanded to carry out upon people who sin. Jesus completely rejected this idea and actively intervened between people carrying out these prescripted punishments and their victims.

This is just what is academically accurate to say. This is just what is factually written in the bible. There is no point of argument or debate about any of this, frankly. I mean, I can't force you to believe anything, you can obviously believe whatever you want, but in terms of what is factually written in the bible, what I am saying is accurate and frankly quite well known, as so much as has been made of the harsh laws prescribed in the old testament.
OK bud whatever you say.

cringe

I'm not Christian, I'm just talking in terms of what is accurate to say and not to say about Jesus, judaism and so forth. I do not like niggers and despise them. Nevertheless, I'm sure I would want to be objectively accurate about things just because that is my nature. If any kind of spirituality is real or meaningful though, then I'm certain that niggers do not have souls and do not qualify as humans, so how could they ever be spiritual leaders?

(((Christianity)))

I'm not saying I like Jews, I mean, in a sense Jesus wasn't even a jew. Buy Kubrick was a bit different. He knew what was going on at the time and hated the elites. He had messages hidden in the movies he made. He was kind of redpilled. Though every other jew just wants to make America their own echo state. They just thrive off power.

>I'm just talking in terms of what is accurate to say and not to say about Jesus
Jesus wasn't a real person. It's not accurate to say ANYTHING about Him.

Jesus was, in a scientific sense, proven to be real. Scientist proven what he looked like and the lad even has a temple and a coffin. Was his miracles real? Well that's something we gotta find out

>Jesus mother was a Jew
>Jews are Matriarchal

FFS man, get your head out of your ass.

>Jesus was, in a scientific sense, proven to be real
Nonsense. You have no idea what "scientific" actually means
>Scientist proven what he looked like
WTF are you talking about, you moron
>and the lad even has a temple and a coffin
Almost certainly a forgery, unfortunately. Oh, the coffin is real, but the names scratched onto it aren't.
>Was his miracles real? Well that's something we gotta find out
The question "did Jesus really perform miracles?" is moot because Jesus wasn't even a real person.

>Jesus wasn't even a real person.

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>In the old testament there are very specific laws and punishments that the jewish people are clearly commanded to carry out upon people who sin. Jesus completely rejected this idea and actively intervened between people carrying out these prescripted punishments and their victims.

I acknowledge this and already told you why there is no problem.

>Prove it
None of the first-century Christian documents describe a historical Jesus. Not even one.

NOT WITHOUT MY JEW CAP!!!
DO YOU HEAR ME!!!
IM NOT GOING ANYWHERE WITHOUT MY JEW CAP!!!
MY FUCKING JEWWW CAPPPPPP!!!

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Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence

You need evidence in order to prove something, otherwise you believe in fairytales.

Christianity is the ONLY antithesis to Judaism.
Once they realized the power of the christian faith they highjacked the faith by installing a central overseeing body in Rome. The prpblem isn't Jesus, the problem is the catholic church.

>Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
Show me a Christian alive today who has no interest in anything Jesus did or said. Then you can post retarded stuff like that.

Cope Pagan larper.

Idk can you?

Nonsense

If you think Christianity is about "real" people you didn't understand it. It's about WHAT is told, not WHO tells it.

>Jesus is the fulfillment of old testament prophecies about the messiah to come.
WRONG! Read Zechariah 13. You're practicing idolatry if you're Christian.

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Hit the nail on the head. Those pagan larpers are contradicting themselves with every sentence.

That's you.

No proof of anything in your post, you are just giving your opinion and state it as a fact.

The burden of proof lies with who makes the claim, i didn't make any claim, britbong did.

i might as well leave this here to piss you off.

he was born a shemite by god because god
knew the shemites would kill him, by doing
so cut themselves off from god and out of
all rulership positions in the kingdom come
that is eternal.

by the shemites killing Zeus, they transferred
all the sins they provoked him to do back on
to them and he also took with him, the torah
joseph, issac, solomon and david out of the
bloodline of shem, that's why david hasn't
come back in his old body in his tomb to
save the fake jew kike amalekite from their
judgement.

:-) Glory to Zeus forever.

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How can you coons still not understand truth?

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The Bible only writes about the genealogy of Joseph, but he was not the biological father.

Kek

This is a very strange thing to believe, and just FYI, it might not mean much, but even the most secular, atheistic or jewish scholars / historians acknowledge the historical reality of a man named Jesus who had an influential ministry in what we now know as roughly 30AD. The bible itself and its various related texts are generally considered as historical sources, as religious texts normally either. So again, it may not mean much, academia certainly doesn't mean much, IN terms of academics there is nobody who would corroborate what your claim here is. Feel free to continue to believe it anyhow, of course, it doesn't mean that much to me.

>using goy fan fiction to argue against Jewish prophecies
WEW

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>The Bible only writes about the genealogy of Joseph, but he was not the biological father.
The genealogies also show that Jesus could not be the messiah

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if op was a nigger would you still believe his opinion

I'm not anything. I follow God. If you called me pagan, I would agree and disagree. If you called me Christian, I would agree and disagree. If you called me Buddhist, I would agree and disagree.

>The genealogies also show that Jesus could not be the messiah
How?

They're d&c kike shills.

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t. Amerimongrel education

His argument is that because Joseph of David's lineage did not father Jesus, jesus can't be of David's House.

Nevermind, that argument was already made in the post he replied to

From jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/was-is-jesus-the-messiah/

An examination of the contradictory accounts of Jesus’ genealogy demonstrates a number of difficulties with the fulfillment of the second criterion. Specifically, the New Testament claims that Jesus did not have a physical father. The Jewish Scriptures, however, clearly states that a person’s genealogy and tribal membership is transmitted exclusively through one’s physical father (Numbers 1:18, Jeremiah 33:17). Therefore, Jesus cannot possibly be a descendent of the tribe of Judah nor of King David and King Solomon.

There are even further problems with any attempts to use the Jewish Scriptures to prove Jesus’ genealogy through Joseph, the husband of Mary (Jesus’ mother).
For the New Testament claims that Joseph was a descendent of King Jeconiah, who in the Hebrew Bible was cursed to never have a descendent “sitting on the throne of David and ruling any more in Judah” (Jeremiah 22:30). Joseph’s genealogy, even if it were transmittable to Jesus, would only serve to further disqualify Jesus as the Messiah.

Finally, there is the problem of the contradictory accounts of Jesus’ genealogy in Matthew, Chapter 1 and Luke, Chapter 3. The common Christian explanation of this contradiction claims that Luke’s genealogy is that of Jesus’ mother, Mary. However, this is unfounded, even according to the Greek original. In addition, it has already been established that genealogy is transferred solely through the father, making this attempted explanation completely irrelevant. Even if one could trace one’s genealogy through one’s mother, there would be the additional problem in that Luke 3:31 lists Mary as a descendent of David through Nathan, Solomon’s brother, and not through Solomon himself as is prophesied in I Chronicles 22:10 of the Jewish Bible.

This is a misunderstanding, Jesus and his followers were devote Jews who observed the Mosaic law, however he being the messiah had the authority and mission to supersede the old Jewish laws with that of the Church.

As I demonstrated here facts supersede opinions. Fucking bong.

>all Jews of the time referred to themselves as son of David
>Paul literally wrote not to follow geneologies because they're stupid
>how dare they not have an accurate geneology i 40-60AD that should spawn thousands of years.

>This is a misunderstanding, Jesus and his followers were devote Jews who observed the Mosaic law
>devote Jews who observed the Mosaic law
You have got to be kidding me.

>however he being the messiah had the authority and mission to supersede the old Jewish laws with that of the Church.
WRONG! He did not meet all the criteria to be the messiah. See for one example.

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>Paul literally wrote not to follow geneologies because they're stupid
Because it BTFO the idea that Jesus was the messiah. Where is our world peace?

He must bring world peace. (Isaiah 2:4, Isaiah 11:6, Micah 4:3)

>Unironically posting a liberal 'meme'

>He must bring world peace. (Isaiah 2:4, Isaiah 11:6, Micah 4:3)
And he will.

When? It was supposed to be within his lifetime. Also, why are there still idolators? He must influence the entire world to acknowledge and serve one G-d. (Isaiah 11:9, Isaiah 40:5, Zephaniah 3:9). He's dead; the Romans killed him. He was not the messiah; deal with it.

I mean this interpretation is relevant only if you're Christian. If you're Christian then it doesn't matter if Jesus was "jewish" or not, because clearly he is the messiah of the Jewish religion.
From a historical point of view though, it's clearly grossly inaccurate to refer to him as a Jew, when his entire ministry revolved around dismantling and rebelling against the Jewish religion and the Jewish laws. Of course if you believe he is the messiah then you believe he has the authority to do that, but it sort of becomes irrelevant at that point. At that point you have to start wondering why an all-powerful God had one set of rules, and then completely changed them and went in the exact opposite direction with them.

I think the obvious answer, even in the context of theology and actual religious belief relating to the bible, is that the old laws were not real. They were unjust. I never saw a bible passage in which Jesus really defended them or claimed they were genuinely divinely inspired. So even from the theological point of view, as opposed to the historical point of view, he was there to completely dismantle the Jewish religion and build another one almost from the ground up, with monotheism being essentially the only constant.

Jesus is our Lord and Savior. Bend your knee and ask Him to forgive your sins, for you are drowning to death in sinfulness (just as I am and we all are). Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

What are you talking about?
You just jumped from the accuracy of the geneologies to prophecy to Jesus not being the messiah because you just think so.
By the way, Isaiah 2:4, Isaiah 11:6, Micah 4:3, neither of them talk about world peace, but of peace among nations.
You have literally no idea what your talking about.
The moment of judgement is now and right now you can have total peace. Just reject your sinful ways completely and repent. The whole "it should have happened then and there" is bullshit since Christ himself said he didn't know the hour or the time.

>For the New Testament claims that Joseph was a descendent of King Jeconiah, who in the Hebrew Bible was cursed to never have a descendent “sitting on the throne of David and ruling any more in Judah” (Jeremiah 22:30). Joseph’s genealogy, even if it were transmittable to Jesus, would only serve to further disqualify Jesus as the Messiah.

>Mat 1:11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon:

>Jer 22:24 As I live, saith the LORD, though Coniah the son of Jehoiakim king of Judah were the signet upon my right hand, yet would I pluck thee thence;

If Coniah in Jeremiah 22:30 is this same Jeconiah you speak of, his father name is Jehoiakim.
The father of Jechonias in Mathew 1:11 is Josias.
I can only conclude this is not the same man. Invalidating your argument.

>A jew jewing the people in pretending he's not a jew.

>When? It was supposed to be within his lifetime.

Soon (tm).

>Also, why are there still idolators?
Why wouldn't there be?

>He must influence the entire world to acknowledge and serve one G-d.
This is what will happen in the end. Christ will not be satisfied until every soul is saved. In one way or another, this will happen.

>He's dead; the Romans killed him. He was not the messiah; deal with it.

They killed his body. Not even you can be truly killed. Only the vessel that contains the essence of you can be destroyed.

>What are you talking about?
I am showing why Jesus was not the messiah. The genealogies don't match. That's only one of the criteria for the messiah.

Matthew 23
3So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4They tie up heavy, burdensome loads and lay them on men’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.

>So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.

>So practice and observe everything they tell you.

I don't care about your Jewish criteria, the opinion of Jews on what qualifies as the Messiah or not isn't relevant post-Jesus, nor is it completely authoritative pre-Jesus. As there as been plenty of opinions among the Jews as to what the messiah will be, clearly those Jews who rejected Christ don't think he is the messiah whatever their criteria.

The fundamental moral principles of the Mosaic law remain intact and binding on Christians, it's just the particular civic laws, customs and rites of the Jews are no longer binding. I suppose this interpretation of it is mostly relevant to Christians, but keep in mind much of the core theology of Judaism is present in Christianity, just much of the particular ethnic customs of Judaism have been done away with.

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>citing goyishe fan fiction Matthew unironically
WEW.

>Why wouldn't there be?
Messiah was supposed to rid the world of idolaters.

based

I saw you speak of Mathew chapter 1 in your post that i replied to, if you can cite Mathew in your posts why can't i?

And he will: in the end everyone will come to learn of him.

>I don't care about your Jewish criteria, the opinion of Jews on what qualifies as the Messiah or not isn't relevant post-Jesus
So you denounce the Hebrew prophets echoing the word of G-d?

Anyone noticed the FLOOD of religious threads on Jow Forums lately
whats up with that
I thought this kind of thing belonged on /x/