You are literally retarded if you believe in free healthcare

No.

It's
>Take money
>Hope that money paid out in claims is less than money taken

The way that insurance companies ensure that claims are cheaper for them is that they negotiate "discounts" which are just the normal price of the service, while the sticker price is marked up. It's like the "sales" in a department store. You're paying 50% on an item that was marked up 200%

We have socialized roads aka free roads. We have socialized k-12 education aka free education. We have socialized police force aka free protection. And dumb fuckity we already have free healthcare in many states.

It's better if we put our tax dollars into healthcare instead of military industrial complex. Free healthcare would also benefit those on drugs and with mental health issues. Which would slow down the funding to the prison industrial complex. This will literally save us in billions with preventable care.

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You are a moron. None of that is free. Nothing is free except air.

>There is no such thing as a square circle
Take that back broski!

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Now this is boomerposting!

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it's not free, it's just less expensive and everybody gets help instead of a select few illiterate somali

For paying for emergency services like fire, police, and health.

>Live in country without public healthcare system
>In hospital waiting room with ill child
>Black clown with rainbow grills and tattoos all over his face walks in
>Rich from mumble rap jigaboo nonsense shit
>Receives top of the line healthcare before the ill child

hmmm

>it's literally like sim city
boomer detected

No argument eh?

Roads aren’t free retard, your state and county adds fuel tax that helps maintain the roads, next time you complain about gas prices going up look to see how much your state or county raised taxes On fuel. Also you probably pay dmv and registration fees for your vehicle, those also go to roads. Lastly, many people pay yearly taxes on their car depending on where they live, those also goes to road use.

It blows my mind that idiots like you are capable of waking up in the morning and don’t drown themselves taking a shower

>Billions lost by Pentagon

In a public healthcare system the rich guy would still go private and be cured way faster than the boy with the public system.
In fact, in Italy, the waitlists for visits using public healthcare are so long you would probably die before your appointment if you have something serious.

>We have socialized roads aka free roads.
Most of those are decaying and decrepit. LA is full of potholes and cracked roads.

>We have socialized k-12 education aka free education.
Public K-12 is shit. They don't teach kids any useful skills or even teach basic math or writing. California had to drop a mandatory test that tested 8th grade level reading, writing and math because too many High School students were failing the exam.

>We have socialized police force aka free protection.
There are a lot of legitimate complaints with them too.

>And dumb fuckity we already have free healthcare in many states.
And it's shit. The VA is a fucking den of medical malpractice where vets go to die, and medicare is rife with fraud, and most doctors don't accept medicare because of the forced discounts, and those that do take it are shitty doctors.

Also none of these are "free", they're all paid for by taxes.

Pretty weak argument. Pentagon unlikely to administer it.

That still isn't free, you absolute brainlet. Taxpayer funded just means that you have to pay for these services even if you don't want them, or if you want a different provider.

Buddy I understand There is not fucking thing as free lunch.

>you have to pay for these services even if you don't want the
How the fuck do you think private insurance works? You're the brainlet and you don't even know it.

First of all, unless you drive, having insurance is entirely optional, and secondly, even with automotive insurance, you are still allowed to pick what company you want to buy insurance from. You don't get to pick what government services get your tax dollars.

I'm talking about private health insurance.

Can you respond without changing the topic?

>He doesn't know about Catastrophic Health Care Plans
>He doesn't know that you can pick different tiers with different levels of coverage for private health insuance

Why would I ever pay for maternity coverage if I have a penis instead of a womb? I'll never use it.

There is no legal requirement for people to have health insurance, what is your point?

There is a tax penalty if you are uninsured for even 1 month of the year. It's difficult to believe you haven't heard of it. It's basically obama's legacy. Google Individual Mandate. It's still in effect. (yes it is.)

>tax penalty
Yeah, I remember reading about that, I also remember reading about that unconstitutional bullshit getting scrapped fairly recently.

You're paying for it right now with private insurance.

It is still in effect.

It is also still unconstitutional, also, I remember seeing some statistics that a decent number of people opted to pay the penalty rather than get insurance, because, in spite of the penalty, it was still more expensive to get insurance that they did not see a need for.

Hey man, I agree it's unconstitutional. That's not what I'm arguing about.

I notice you can't stay on topic.

Idk im not paying over 1k to have broken leg put in cast. Also im not being taxed for it, very delusional ppl here

>you can't stay on topic
I am not going off topic, everything I am posting is related to the subject being discussed, you are just trying to find phony reasons to dismiss my arguments.

I would rather wait 2 hours to get a broken leg fixed than pay $30,000 plus tip or whatever bullshit price they put on it in USA
>but muh work health insurance pays for it! hope i dont get fired or replaced

>tip
There are only a few industries here where tipping occurs, the medical industry is not one of them.
>$30,000
Insurance will pay for almost all of it, and if you are uninsured, you won't be charged anywhere near that much money. The problem is, without insurance, you will only be able to get emergency medical care.

It should be taxed off of the backs of the rich.
Part of the %1? 20% of your earnings have to pay into socialism.

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Those things aren't free they are usury of the public who pays taxes to have them available, and our government can't even get most of them right.

why?

I.. because social responsibility??

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>The successful should have to pay for the failures
For what fucking purpose?

what about free roads?

get off the road if you're not going to pay for it, right guise?

Because their money greed makes others poor!!

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>free roads
The only people who don't pay for roadways are pedestrians, who don't buy fuel, nor pay those who do.

Would that be a price you pay for being richer than the majority? Imagine working all your life for a fortune and then that fortune being robbed off you because you earned more.

Leftists really have no concept of privacy or property rights, do they?

>Free healthcare would also benefit

No.

We have it in the UK and it's good for accidents but shit for disease.

It used to take 12 weeks to get a scan for anything cancer related, then another month for results. Then a month or 2 to organise treatment. 6 months waiting is enough time for plenty of people to be dead before they can even start treatment. Not to mention the boards that decide if you are even worthy of treatment depending on your age, job, marital status etc. If you're old you can forget about treatment.

Misdiagnosis is also pretty and i've lost 2 family members from that alone. Absolutely ZERO comeback when it happens. It's basically "oooops, now fuck off".

tl:dr nothing is free.

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What is privacy, and property?

Rich people or only rich because they build it off the backs of the working class and cheat their way out of taxes and social responsibility though.

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>social
>responsibility
nah, it's completely retarded, memeflaggot

They are a necessary evil, a society cannot function without a hierarchy

Well, you would know, wouldn't you Froggy?

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>free healthcare
Only normalfags and larpers actually use the term "free." No one disputes that socialized medicine is costly, but it is the superior system depending on demographics. For the US, there will be no ideal, functional health care system as long as we're ethnically heterogeneous.

Tell that to...
Oh...

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Why is there a legal requirement to let anybody in the Emergency room then? I never understood the cheast beating about "freedom" and then you practically force hospitals to threat for free. Its unlogical.

This. Also denying legitimate but marginal claims puts a dent in costs.

This. Europe has no "free" healthcare. It has mandatory, mostly single payer healthcare with the option to go private when you in the top 10% bracket in some countries (not all).
Also, most of the typical shit like braces cost extra, basically everything that is not life threatening cost extra.

There will be after we vote capitalism out. We will also bar the rich from using these services meant for the general labor class, but they still must pay into them.

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I think he's LARPing as a lefttard. Though I have a bad feeling that there are leftists that unironically believe that shit.
>privacy
It's this little thing where you don't share every detail of your life to the entire world, it also generally involves the concept of making your own decisions in life.
>Property
The ability to keep and control your resources.

>free
If you don't make any goddamn money, but get shit from the government, it's free. Perspective is important. If you're getting taxed all to fuck, but don't get shit from the government, it's theft!

It's very easy to argue that you should get more free shit to poor people. It is much harder to argue that you should burn down the IRS and the Fed, genocide the homeless, end welfare, and gas all the kikes to the average taxpayer.

That's your comeback?

>making your own decisions in life
B.. b.. but the s.. s.. state is suppose to do that for you!

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Because you can't let people just die. Autistic FDP voter.

>legal requirement to let anybody in the Emergency room then?
I personally don't agree with that policy, but the real situation behind the issue with the healthcare industry here is a long and somewhat confusing story that mainly revolves around the government fucking everything up. And unfortunately, until that gets cleared up, there are much bigger fish to fry than the fact that emergency rooms must at least stabilize anyone that needs emergency care.

Taking your money so that we can let others have a living standard, that is the comeback.

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>free healthcare
Do proponents of "free healthcare" even call it "free healthcare" or is this just another round of HURR DURR LEFTIES ARE DUMB spouted by even dumber muricans on the right? lol

What kind of argument is that supposed to be

>You are literally retarded if you believe in free healthcare
I think that licensed doctors should be enslaved for taking part in a scam that eats more than 20% of GDP and all healthcare administrators should be shot and thrown in a ditch.

>accelerating the downfall
thanks

you will be met with rope

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A successful society requires people of all classes to fulfill different roles. Goes back to the original farmers paying knights for protection. Society isn't and can't be classless because it needs people to take different roles.

Was the rope taxed from the income of the bourgeoisie?

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Not if you legalize the averaging of the national income.

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An argument by a person who has never experienced a decent health care system.

>hey sweden has free healthcare
>Texas has 3 times the amount of people Sweden has in it
>SO? WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY IDEAS FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES WITH COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS TO OURS WITHOUT A PROBLEM

In communist Amerika, everything will be made "decent".

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Bumping to slide shill threads

>It's less expensive and everyone gets help
This from a faggot who lives in a country with 50% income tax to pay for nigger Muslim invaders who fuck his wife and rape him up the ass.

Bwaaaaaa hahahahah. She's a retard cunt.

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>Police don't cost us anything.
>Fire departments don't cost us anything.
Thanks for making my point for me, you utter dipshit.

I believe you meant "refugees", and "allegedly".

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>High skilled employees and low skill employees are entitled to the same luxuries
What makes poorfags think they're entitled to anything?

Free means free at the point of service, spaz.

>Police and fireman just work for free bro
>WTF WHAT IS THIS BILL FOR THE HOSPITAL DOCTORS SHOULD JUST WORK FOR FREE!

Oh, you're a fucking misogynist.

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You're retarded, you can't pay everyone the same and expect other to go for higher skilled jobs

They get assigned living wage, housing, and public privilages. We all will.

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Is that why they have a high suicide rate?

I know you are, but what am I?

youtu.be/26-VzfBZg1w

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>spends 19% gdp on health care that impoverishes people
>spend 8% gdp on some of the best health care in the world
>lectures us on healthcare
Best goy

Is that why nobody are doctors, lawyers, and skilled labor in socially developed countries? Huh?

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Cuba is a doctor producing machine. But they pay them fuck all.

There is no such thing as free. Free as in someone working for free aka no payment for their labor.

The "Free" you see in some nations is just a fking illusion. Public sector is paid via taxation. The more services you add to the public sector, the higher the taxes gonna be.

It's almost like money shouldn't dictate what career you belong in!

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You're deluded, people aren't motivated because of the warm feeling they get after they finish the job. 99% of them grind for the money.

Wat. Doctors help people for free all the time. Just those people tend to be illegal immigrants.

You don't need monetary gain for your work if your basic human needs are provided!

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