Why is the EU army sooo controversial?

It’s just a military where people have more opportunities and better equipment. A guy from Krakow may see deployment in Mali or Chad just as a guy from Madrid may protect Latvia from Russia and a girl from Dublin may fight terrorists in the Indian ocean. It’s just a pooling of resources.

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>Why is the EU army sooo controversial?
Why does a trade union need its own military?

a fucking dane comes through with the real shit.
good on you.

Because it means no national armies, it means if there are problems in Greece they can send German troops there to deal with the issue, Germans will have less problem shooting greek protestors than Greeks. If the polish people decide they don't want the EU anymore the EU can send in Germans to deal with it, and there will be no Polish army to defend them, the Polish army will just be a division of the EU army, and no doubt conveniently stationed elsewhere.

An EU army means the end of the nation states of europe.

1. beacuse it's an absolutely idiotic thing.
2. because the jews and the mutts fear it.

my idea is that europe (or at least italy + france, which means europe to me) should leave nato, make an alliance, and act as an independent , unprejudiced player in the middle east. as for now, we are not making our own interests, but fighting for the judaeo-american ones.
in shirt, EVROPA first.

>Foreign military illegalities > 2/w since flawed NATO contract rules.
Yeah, seems like we could feel safer with this.

It doesn’t need it, the question is whether it makes sense to have a common army. I say yes.

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The EU contract already included something similar by the way but was not followed through.
Read about it.

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We had a great discussion about it two years ago here in /pol.

Fucking this

Skål min ven!

because it's EU army. It will obey EU orders and EU aims to destroy nations of Europe.

We got neutrality in a previous treaty. We wont be contributing.

Cheers Germany.

Fuck off Count Kalergi.

An EU army is destruction of national sovereignty. Take your pro-EU shilling elsewhere.

I don't think the European soldiers would do anything bad for their countries.
Higher ups are separated from government.

In case people fuck with the trading? Like Americans. Just recently they said "we forbid the EU from trading with Iran."
Like fucking hell. Europe is now building it's own money transfer infrastructure free from the US.

We will need to be able to defend ourselves from those maniacs.

>why is a socialist kike dictatorship having a military so bad

because the EU is run by kikes who want maximum kikery for all of europe and giving them any more power is the most retarded thing that europe could do.

This guy gets it

Yes, your navy just helps import Africans in the Med. Why do the Irish love BBC so much?

Yes, goyim, join up forces, start a joint army, united you're stronger!

>I don't think the European soldiers would do anything bad for their countries.

They wouldn't to their own, that's why you send certain nationality troops to their most hated countries.

Besides solidiers tend to do whatever they're ordered,that's how army works.

That's it faggots, Germania needs a compliant military. Wouldn't want you cunts getting selfish ideas like the Brits would we?

>Why is the EU army sooo controversial
it can't fucking work because of objective reasons

>Grammatical error.
>Wondering

Exactly as we do in Spain.
We send only the most Macho Andalus Guarcia Civil and Policia Nacional to Catalonia and the Basque country and vis versa.

>accidentally including a swastika flag in your news article

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piss off

Because the ultimate objective of the EU is to destroy the white race.

So you're telling me that with this there would be no possibility for rebel forces to spawn and we'd have control of the armies of all the territories combined? Where do I sign?

I guess you don't play EU4

Who will be in charge, Brussels? Germany?

People in Poland think differently to people in Germany

Germany should never be allowed an army ever,

It is so retarded to have a common army, you have even less sovereignty. I don't want army bases in my country full of Spanish and Greek soldiers, that's called being annexed by a foreign country

yes

It's more complicated -.

All Irish have to be frontline soldiers. You’ll be the first to storm Mogadishu.

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>a girl from Dublin may fight terrorists in the Indian ocean
I didnt know there were european countries which took women as soldiers? I thought that was purely an American thing?

united we stand, divided we fall.

Because an army of people from different nations is easier to use against its own subjects.

Explain it then dear Greek.
Also explain me how tender Macedonian troops would be in Greece
>macedonia is not in Eu

Mohammad, your opinion is invalid here.

We save those Africans because we know the UK will pay a high price for BBC.

You forgot?

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We can do peace keeping but we are exempt from wars of aggression.

>Who will be in charge, Brussels? Germany?
What’s the difference?

>People in Poland think differently to people in Germany
Orders are orders. Polish people will follow orders.

>Germany should never be allowed an army ever
You are leaving in 2 months, your chance to stop us is over.

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>Polish education

I have never heard of a female Irish soldier and if there is any they are sucking and fucking

>An army led by a country that has never won a war manned by a country known for surrendering

OH NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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All EU countries allow women soldiers.

>It’s just a pooling of resources.
Unironically crucify yourself.

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Storming Mogadishu will be kind of peace keeping.

Yup. Also an indicator that the US is going into isolation mode.

Probably because the only thing the EU member nations have in common is that they enjoy being protected by the US

>What’s the difference?

Man in charge will likely favor their own people

>Orders are orders. Polish people will follow orders.

Good example of slave german mentality

>You are leaving in 2 months, your chance to stop us is over.

You're minority in 10 years, your chance to do anything is over

>service spent protecting someone else's shithole
fuck off, we're full
It's all a plot by old farts in the EU to arrange government-paid sex tourism for their sons

Third time is the charm. We already got rid of you retards, and the only thing we had to do is buy a guy named Nigel.

from what I understood Ireland is only neutral if she wants to
thejournal.ie/readme/if-we-are-heading-for-an-eu-army-what-does-that-mean-for-irish-neutrality-4331443-Nov2018/

even though there is a neverending rage about Brexit here, some say at least GB can't veto the EU army any longer

Who controls the army? Which one single nation can tell it where to go and what issues to settle? Do the people even have a say in the actions it takes?

Because it's an antinationalistic jew bullshit army aimed to be used against Europe's own population and not to defend it's "interests" abroad.

>may protect Latvia from Russia
That's why.
Jow Forums is full of Russian shills

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Everything starts small and then suddenly they attack Russia by mistake and shit goes real.

Tragedy here is that Finns thinks EU is more intelligent and effective than it really is. Finns cannot comprehend the fact, that Finns are superior to any other European Nation - although - Finnish officials and bureaucrats are idiots too. They are just a bit less idiots than standard European imbecile bureaucrat.

You know, mankind at the moment is so very very fucking stupid, that if we would remove ALL our current problems, we would still plant our faces in shit - in same time as with our current problems.
All roads leads to shit. And that is the result of severe and rapid retardation in only one generation (boomers).

Yea, give us more guns and "democratic military infrastructure" (=dumbest thing ever).

People in Texas think differently to people in California. Do you believe each state should have their own army?

Tell me, if in the end we're going to be bullied by external countries that are much stronger than any of our countries standing alone, what's the point of protecting your sovereignty? You're gonna end up being someone's bitch, so why not join forces and at least have a say in what the group does? You brits still think like it's the 19th century and you're a superpower but for the last half century you're just another middle power and completely irrelevant compared to the big guys like China or US. Face it, your empire is not coming back, it's time to pick a side and join it before the era of big blobs comes and they make you choose by force.

Tell me Hassan al linkestein, what is the end goal of your master plan? The destruction of all European people and nations could it be that, hmm?

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>EU
>army

What does the EU Army plan to army with? Other than French nukes, they have relatively fuck all that isnt wearing out, shit tier women and soft men running shit or the newer gear is small in number. They have more important shit to do like feed Muhammadans and Somalia niggers. We have oceans of shit to deal with as well but our budget makes sure we have enough freedom to spread around to random mud countries. I mean, other than French Indochina, when has an EU country done shit on scale since WW2? I'm not counting Britain because hopefully Dad will get his shit together soon.

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Based finns.

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>implying he finished any school

Germans always fuck up at grand strategy tho. Too much autism.

Specifically, as things are, the soldiers would do what needed to be done for the safety of their country.
Protecting your neighborhood = protecting your house.
In case of a European military, the units or (even squads) would be based in countries while the base in general would be mixed - I assume, I'm not a strategist nor have any info on the current project, but, I do have some experience.
>Example base: 4 units consisting by different countries each, having 4-5 platoons/squads each working together.

i was going to post it, based finnish airforce

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The European people, the European Central Committee control everything.

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>Wojtek keeping it real
Redbull gives you wings
Wodka gives you 4WD

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Based Finnish men!

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>what is the end goal of your master plan?

The world... is not enough.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=8C5NLfYdZaE

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Thought about mixed squads specifically,
This wouldn't work, not even in theory.
But, units would.

These people act like we're inventing the concept of a federation or something.

sweet mother of jewsus i want to suck on those tits until my mouth starts to hurt

>German troops there to deal with the issue, Germans will have less problem shooting greek protestors than Greeks
Retard, army's are not meant to be dealing with civilians, ever!

REEEEEEEEEEEEE I WANT OUT

>Specifically, as things are, the soldiers would do what needed to be done for the safety of their country.

You assume that any action done by army will be equally good for all EU countries, usually that's not the case.
What if army gets order to relocate immigrants to every country evenly ?

In real life some countries win some loose and we all know Germany would win if they ever got EU army

Because the point of it is to kill white Europeans who step out of line. EU-branded assault vehicles in Paris poised to crush protesters, proved it.

There's already a defense force for Europe. It's called NATO. Creating a second pan-European military implies it wont be for defense.

>Retard, army's are not meant to be dealing with civilians, ever!

nooo, this never happened in history

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This type of thinking is why we were at war with you

You just ignore the cultural differences and think we should just mould into some riech, we don't even speak the same languages here.

fpbp

Same reason why people had a problem with an EU Constitution, anthem, etc. They're trappings of a sovereign nation, not of a trade union. Don't pretend like you don't know. I hope the EU collapses.

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NATO is a tool for America’s foreign wars. It’s a thing America doesn’t feel so alone when randomly invading shithole countries for no reasons whatsoever.

will there be an EU conscription too? Is it not unfair Germans are not drafted, but Finns and Swedes are?

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To surpress evil right wing views of course

>you're just another middle power and completely irrelevant compared to the big guys like China
Good.

The idea of relocating immigrants in the EU to all countries used to be supported by the majority of its citizens. This was never the German imposition they made you believe, these ideas were also supported in all other big western countries. Look at Spain, they are still voluntarily receiving all the migrants that Italy is rejecting. Recently there has been a shift in ideas and today there isn't anymore a majority support for this in most countries so the EU will stop pushing for it. You guys have to stop seeing the EU as some foreign influence and realise it is nothing but the sum its countries. The Visegrad group has been instrumental in showing that all voices can be heard in this union.

That's when you need to vote.
Consider those far-leftists voting for globalization having their daughters raped.
They'll vote differently next time.
The military can't get involved in politics as per rule.

>Why does a trade union need its own military?

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Not under one flag

So if majority of EU wants to destroy Poland it is somewhat righteous ?
You wanted sandniggers,you got sandniggers. It ain't our responsibility to clean your own filth.

Military belongs to politics by rule you dumb cunt.
And read kraut's argument above, if majority of EU wants something, army should make it happen
So if your country goes into absolute debt, army might strip down all of your own military and let EU sell your land,because MAJORITY wants so.

All 12 to 18yr olds should be trained next to school. This will tightly bind them together und the flag and make men and women of steel out of them.

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Because EU was suppose to just be a free trade and travel plan fpr Europe, now it's aan autocratic shithole sspearheaded by loopy alcoholics like (((Juncker)))

The trick has become obvious and it's not too late to stop it

Remember what happened when the military started getting involved in politics
PolAnon? Yeah, that's not the "rule", that's just bad.
Also something related,
There are laws which were founded because-by analysing political discussions in bases which resulted in bad soldiers' performance.

The bitch is like 14 years old

Calm down, Riycip

Get it bruh

>All 12 to 18yr olds should be trained next to school. This will tightly bind them together und the flag and make men and women of steel out of them.

EU will make trannies out of them, you mean

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