>I can't wait for Western Civilization to Collapse! I can't wait for a free for all! >He says this while he lives in the most comfortable time in human history >He says this while living in a society where a minimum wage salary gives him more comfort and luxury than a billionaire had 100 years ago >He says this while living in a time where violent crime is 25 times lower than the average crime rate was for human history >He says this while being a free man and not a slave(96% of the human population, including the European population, were enslaved until modern times) >He says this while living in a time where antibiotics exist and completely protect him from infections that have killed 100s of millions of people(Smallpox etc.) in the past >He says this while living in a society where a minimum wage salary is more than enough to eat until extreme obesity >He says this while living in a society with all of the collective knowledge of Humanity being essentially free and open source(the Internet) >He says this while having completely free speech zones to express himself with no consequences that have never existed before in all of Human history(Sites like Jow Forums) >He says this while living in an air-conditioned/artificially heated room
Even wagecucks flipping burgers live a 100x better life than the robber barons and kings lived less than a 100 years ago. Only spoiled children who have never had to experience what human existence was really like before all of modern technology, could ever think that the time before it is desirable.
All of you people think that modern technology is the source of all of your problems, and you think you are "based" and in-tune with your ancestors. But if you actually took a time machine and visited your ancestors from hundreds of years ago, and you described the insanely luxurious and lavish lifestyle that even the poorest people in our society experience, they would slap you for being a retard if you dared complain.
>Some people have pelted Waymo vans with rocks, according to police reports. Others have repeatedly tried to run the vehicles off the road. One woman screamed at one of the vans, telling it to get out of her suburban neighborhood. A man pulled up alongside a Waymo vehicle and threatened the employee riding inside with a piece of PVC pipe.
>In one of the more harrowing episodes, a man waved a .22-caliber revolver at a Waymo vehicle and the emergency backup driver at the wheel. He told the police that he “despises” driverless cars, referring to the killing of a female pedestrian in March in nearby Tempe by a self-driving Uber car.
>comfy t. women polls in the womans most comfiest time
James Sanchez
Everyone is weak because of all the things you listed. I for one can not wait until we go back to our roots and live as actual humans. Not some fake manufactured shit society has pushed down all of our throats.
Seems like a good argument, but I'd trade it all for a sane world. This is actually one of the most painful times to be alive, to watch so many people you love infected with mind virus. People willfully casting themselves into the pit because they think it's wise. God it hurts. Like a real live zombiepocalypse, but worse because we have the facade of normalcy, and the infected are oblivious.
That's a very nice castle. Perfect place to live in while you die a slow and painful death at age 25 from an easily treatable infection. Perfect place to have almost half of your children either die in Childbirth, or contract Polio and have lifelong disabilities(All the money in the world didn't stop this 100 years ago). Perfect place to have your wife die in Childbirth too(there was nearly a 10% death rate from Childbirth until modern times, today it is essentially 0%). Also an excellent place to be shut out from all of the worlds knowledge, where most of it is locked up and hidden in places far away. Excellent place to have no free speech whatsoever, and no way to express yourself anonymously in the slightest.
You better enjoy that Castle, since travelling anywhere is extremely slow and dangerous. Travelling from New York to a suburb of New york is a multiple day long journey on Horse back. Travelling from one side of america to another takes multiple months. And the risk of being robbed while travelling through a forest somewhere is very high.
If you do get robbed and stranded, good luck getting help from anyone. There are no phones to call for help with. No GPS to have any clue where you are. The guns you have are heavy, and break/jam very easily.
Kevin Young
>Everyone is weak >Implying you're not weak also
It's like you retards don't understand that whatever issues you have now, they become 100x worse without the technology we have now. Having to deal with SJWs is annoying. How is you dying from an easily treatable infection at Age 25 going to fix that? All the SJWs are going to die off? Well so will you and everybody you love. Most things that killed people 100s of years ago were not things that could be prevented if you were a Chad survivalist.
Ian Johnson
>Travelling from New York to a suburb of New york is a multiple day long journey on Horse back. Travelling from one side of america to another takes multiple months.
yeah it means the the world is big, and becouse its big it means that its diverse, not like the capitalist homogeneous global society in which we exist today were you go to another continent only to find yourself drinking the same coffee at Star Bucks
>There are no phones to call for help with. No GPS to have any clue where you are.
yeah it means that you're not tracked and under control. it means you can get lost. scary shit huh? its called having an adventure.
Logan Cox
so how come indians never welcomed the European at their liberators from the stone age? the most that they wanted from them was some metal axes and pans, some colorful necklace and.. well that's it.
they never wanted to assimilate into wonderful "advanced" western civilization
My hope is that science will find a way to live forever, because I want to see what we are going to do/reach in the next 100+ years.
Nolan Ross
>yeah it means the the world is big So big that you essentially will never travel anywhere. Even Kings wouldn't travel beyond a few hundred miles from where they lived.
>yeah it means that you're not tracked and under control. it means you can get lost. scary shit huh? its called having an adventure.
It also means you have an insanely high chance of dying slowly and painfully. Right now, sitting in your air-conditioned/heated apartment, fantasizing about this it sounds great. If I snapped my fingers and threw you in the middle of a forest somewhere at midnight, freezing and starving at the same time, with a half broken rifle and wolves howling in the distance, with a 90% chance of Death in the next 6 hours. I wonder if you'll be as smug as you are now about how Modern technology is so awful.
There is a reason all this tech exists. People experienced the exact same situations you described, decided that their living conditions were awful and worked hard so that their children would never have to experience the struggle they had to deal with.
Elijah Fisher
what exactly has technology done for us? I am sitting in front of a computer wasting time. Think about the countless number of people sitting in front of their computers right now or any other type of technology wasting time. Tell me how it's good for my little cousin to be sat infront of a fucking ipad all day. Tell me what would humanity do without technology?
Cooper Butler
technically he is under the classification of "everyone" so he implied no such thing you are just dumb.
Gabriel Rivera
Yeah, I think Ted posters are retarded too OP.
David Thompson
>Implying Western Civilization 700 years ago didn't have worse living standards than hunter gatherers
Agriculture actually made living standards for most people worse than Hunter gatherers. It was only in the last 200 years with the Industrial Revolution and Modern medicine, that the average person actually starts to experience living standards at and dramatically above that of pre-historic Hunter Gatherers.
Dylan Powell
A collapse that eliminates the chronic isolation of modern life by pulling everyone back outside and together away from electronic bread and circuses would be worth the profound reduction in convenience and so-called quality of life. Imagine being grateful for mere food, clean water, and companionship.
people in the middle ages had roots, they had their local cultures, and if they chose or could travel they got to experience truly other places
just imagine the wanders that Marco Polo must have experienced when he traveled to china. now? why even travel to china? you can just watch videos of it on YouTube and save yourself the thick suffocating smog
>If I snapped my fingers and threw you in the middle of a forest somewhere at midnight, freezing and starving at the same time
yeah if i snagged my fingers and you would find yourself naked in the middle of the arctic you would die also, everybody would die under those conditions, what is that have to do with anything?
Technology never moves as rationally as you described. is it rational to have the number of dead that we have each year only so we can drive cars, be stuck in traffic jams and pollute the air? was nuclear reactors a rational decision? what about all the animals that are dying? what about when the weather gets so fucked we cant even grow food to sustain 8 billion people on this earth?
Kayden Reyes
History is unironically a horseshoe, where the very beginning of technological development and the far future are the best times for humanity, while the inbetween period is the absolute worst. This is because early history is more suited to humanity's biology, while in the far future biology doesn't matter as it can be fabricated. I'd either live in feudal Europe, or in my VR cyper-realm, not any where inbetween.
Daniel Fisher
*reverse horseshoe
Carson Perez
Huh, all these amazing things, and suicide rates have been historically high in recent years. Gays, trannies and degeneracy are at an all time high. Mass manipulation of nations and the people within them has reached unseen before scales via media and fake news, even bigger than the church before it was separated from the state.
But were comfortable, ignorance is bliss and all that. Its time to go back you lazy pieces of shit, back to hard manual labour.
Ryder Rogers
Well for one, your little cousin is alive and healthy. 30-50% of Children died in Childbirth until the last 150 years. And a large minority of the Children who survived were hit with things like Polio which either killed them or caused Severe brain/organ damage and left them with lifelong disabilities.
Your cousin has a mother(high death rate for mothers during Childbirth until modern times), and gets to grow up in a dramatically safer world in terms of violent crime(25 Times lower violent crime rate than the average during human history).
Your cousin has plenty to eat and is not practically starving/severely malnourished(how the majority of people, including European peaseants, lived until modern times). Your cousin is practically guaranteed to live until his 50s, something that was very uncommon for most of human history when a simple infection would kill most in their 20s(They didn't have antibiotics).
Your cousin is a free person and not a slave, and will be completely free at age 18 to make his own destiny(The majority of humans, including Europeans, were slaves until Modern times).
While it may not be fully appreciated, your cousin has access to more instant knowledge and information than PHD physicists and engineers had 50 years ago. He has more powerful communication technologies in the palm of his hand than the President of the USA had 20 years ago. He has access to actually anonymous places to speak his mind, something that has literally never existed before.
He has access to clean drinking water, something that did not exist for the majority of Western Europeans until modern times.
I can keep going btw.
Gavin Murphy
>those peasants literally had a better quality of life than modern day wageslaves
Michael Adams
look at this shit. this is repugnant. we get to jack off to some poor bitch who gets abused to buy life necessities.
now compare this to everyday life in the middle ages.
Suicide rates will by definition be very high since the people who would have died from natural causes are not all of a sudden.
In addition, whatever increases in Suicide rate are tiny compared to the massive decreases in Death from things like infections, childbirth and violent crime.
Eli Wood
Define "western civilization"
Joseph Butler
what a fucking faggot
Blake Garcia
>Implying she couldn't have easily made money in literally a thousand different ways. If you want to look at a time in history where she would have to do this or starve to death, you are looking at Humans before modern technology.
That girl could easily live an insanely comfortable life without doing that. Hell she could find work easily if she needs something to do with her life. Pornstars like her do this because they want to, not because they need to.
Can someone bring up the pic of the rich hapa Girl with a millionaire Jew dad and she decided to do a degrading porn scene for 200$? Some women get off on this shit and would do it even if it cost them money.
yeah people who are not the most bright get manipulated and they bite into shit like "fame" and "stardom" but just becouse a girl is dumb doesn't mean that the society she grew up in isn't sick and values this bullshit.
>Dumb adult women get manipulated into doing Porn, so we should throw away modern antibiotics and have people die at age 25 from routine infections!
James Carter
You apperently dont see the harm in prolonging a life via medicine. Africans have relied on fucking and shitting out as many babies as possible just so some survive in the tribe. Its sort of become an instinctive self preservation tactic of theirs. They arent the only ones tho.
And what do you think happens when they continue this but the threats have disappeared via given food and medicine? Global Overpopulation.
What youre saying that the brutal murders have decreased is just not true. The african tribes still slaughter eachoter, but instead with spears its with iron machetes. Hundreds of thousands die in the middle east by gunfire and bomb attacks. And you know what? Atleast back then you didnt have to worry about bombs that will kill as many as a plague in just half the time.
Back then it was desiese that was feared, now its the man behind the big red button who can kill faster and more peasant than any plague.
Josiah Myers
modern antibiotics will not be effective for much longer anyway, the bacteria is getting immune to them as it is. and what about all the diseases that this society actually produces? cancer from genetically modified crops at the hand of huge monstrous untouchable corporations? the depression epidemics, the anxiety disorders, the panic attacks, the social isolation, the lack of movement of office employees.
where in human history has it been recorded that a person goes to a mass murder rampage of random people like in america today?
Lucas Walker
I don’t care, I just wanna die.
Benjamin Cruz
To the superior man comfort is nothing compared to excitement.
>Deaths have not gone down They 100% have. This is not my opinion, we have objective Data that confirms this. I'm talking about Deaths in North America, Western Europe, Australia etc. And they haven't gone done only a little bit, the difference is massive. Literally to the point that you had a 50/50 chance(in the past) of being alive right now. And maybe a 10% chance of not having your body severely stunted from malnutrition 200 years ago.
But today you experience none of those things, and the chances of you having experienced either is essentially less than 1% in Western Countries.
>Overpopulation! Overpopulation is a meme. Societies go through phases of population growth as they industrialize. The global fertility rate was 6 children per women in the 1960s. Today it is 2.3 children per woman(Globally, not just in Western Countries) and dropping which is barely above replacement.
UNDERpopulation is actually a way bigger problem that Overpopulation in most of the world, and will become a bigger and bigger problem moving forward.
If you want a full explanation as to how this happens, Kurzgesagt has a good video explaining it: youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348
Ethan Bailey
Just goes to show you there’s more things to life than MUH STUFF. What are you so afraid of death for? Are you an atheist?
Cameron Torres
>Antibiotics won't be effective We already have innovations in the works that will replace them like Bacteriophages(explanation: youtube.com/watch?v=YI3tsmFsrOg). These bacteriophages btw actually force the bacteria to reverse their resistant to antibiotics, which means we could use both to catch bacteria in a Catch 22.(Bacteria gets more resistant to antibiotics, we use Bacteriophages. To become resistant to Bacteriophages, the bacteria must lower its resistance to antibiotics.)
>and what about all the diseases that this society actually produces?
They cause literally 1/100 of the deaths of things human suffered from before. I know that when you live in such extreme luxury, even the smallest things feel like such a dramatically awful issue. But it's important to gain perspective.
>Cancer from GMO crop >Muh anxiety >Office workers live such luxurious and comfortable lives, that they don't walk enough, Oh that's horrible! let's bring back Malnutrition and death from Polio!
And yet people still have essentially double the lifespan they had as little as 100 years ago. They also have a dramatically higher quality of life by any measure(Medical Disability, violent crime, Free Speech etc.)
Xavier Harris
>Why do you want to avoid unnecessary pain and suffering inflicted on innocent people, are you an Atheist?
Are you implying Christians don't give a shit about the suffering of innocent Children?
Parker Sanchez
dude, the part of the video where it paints the poor city folk as miserable rabble and then describes the rise of the industrial revolution and how it improved the people lives is pure bullshit.
the urban slum proletariat was the RESULT of the industrial revolution
this narrative that they presented about the wanders of industrialization is a fairy tale for children....
put this in your bookmark and listen to is some time user.
well, the weakest will certainly die off and the modern dysgenics experiment known as the social welfare state can end. It is only abundant energy and technology that even allows such a dysgenic social welfare state to exist.
Maybe we can start producing quality humans again as the weak succumb to a harsher reality.
Ryan Gomez
>Industrial Revolution caused poverty It absolutely did, during the transition phase. Once it matured however, it produced such extremely high luxury and living standard for most people, that most Pre-industrial Europeans would think we were Aliens or Gods.
Did you listen to the rest of the video? Since the part where it explains overpopulation is past that point.
Christian Bennett
>double the lifespan Only because so many used to die in infancy. If you made it past age three in 1870 you had almost as good of a chance of reaching age seventy as you do today. I’ll let you in on another secret, if you count abortion deaths as infant mortality than humans have about the same average lifespan as they did 200 years ago
Robert Phillips
even marx, who were not against technology said of the industrial revolution that it produces misery and degradation
Everything you've written is a complete lie, or at least a self-con. Imagining things like AC, internet and garbage food that turns you into a blob are truly the pinnacle of human living standard. As if your semblance of health (your antibiotics) and false sense of security ("hurr no one can harm me here in my mother's basement") add any real value to life. You're just a little pleb like in your pic-related and it shows.
