A theory on gold

Just a theory, Jow Forums. What if the elites actually know that there is a fuck ton of gold and silver on this earth and they don't tell us, and they make us buy gold and silver to make us poor?

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You mean like diamonds?

"They" are not making us buy gold and silver though

kek, pretty much

Look how much they promote it though. After every Fox News skit, I see gold and silver being shoved in people's faces.

I mean follow any trend. Look how it works. When markets crash that's when the rich buy. The whole system is manipulated. Either focus on essentials or play the same game.

It doesn't really matter. We have the technology to use lower elements and fuse them into larger ones. It just requires energy. If the value of an element were to rise above its value in energy we would just create it.

Those in control of the production of energy are in control. The end.

Gold is created by exploding stars no man made device can create it. Unlike diamonds for example which are simply compressed matter.

I personally don't know if I buy into the exploding stars meme that (((they))) claim, but I know that nothing than mimic it's chemical composition.

True, so it's safe to say despite either if it's actually abundant or scarce, we should follow what the elite classify as actual currency.

Gold is created from aether condensing in the right conditions.

the fusion happens in the coronal layer of the sun, the supernova just helps push it around.
The SAFIRE experiment proved the coronal layer is packed with energy and why it's millions of degrees hotter than the surface of the sun.

Buying gold does not make you poor as gold is money, has been for thousands of years. If you can afford gold buy some with your currency and wait for the collapse. Gold is always good as you can pass it on to next generation and it doesnt depreciate like other investments.

We know this isn't the case because the monetisation of precious metals - the usage of precious metals as a storage of value - has been restrained constantly by modern government.

In further detail:
As the supply of precious metals is necessarily limited, their value, as money, should, in theory, be entirely dependent on investor demand. In reality, the opacity of central bank gold leasing, gold call options, and gold price management simulate the debasement of gold. Capital gains tax and the denial of metal-in-exchange insulate the flow of value between fiat currencies and precious metals. Add to this the historical, and potential future, confiscation of precious metals.

The price of any money above its utility is entirely dependent on faith in its storage of value. That is, if the opinions of the public, weighted by the size of their savings, decrees a monetised asset to be worthless then it will be demonetised.

By example:
In the case of silver, its post-WWII abandonment by the central banks has driven its demonetisation; non-recoverable industrial use remains the majority of demand.
This demonetisation of silver has enforced a belief in the public that the price of an ounce of silver has an upper limit.
In reality, no limit exists. The price of silver, like any monetised asset, above its utility is entirely dependent on faith in its storage of value.
That is, if the opinions of the public, weighted by the size of their savings, decrees a monetised asset to be worthless then it will be demonetised and worthless.

>implying they dont do that with everything
just read about the 7 sisters oil companies.

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Are you telling me gold lays inside the sun?

Gold is worthless. Its a jewish scam to keep boomers buying useless shit for real money.
The natural money theory was disproven long ago.

Last I checked, nobody MADE anyone buy gold or silver.

Unless you count nigger jewelry, then I'm sure that's a thing.

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>Gold is worthless
you sure it isn't used in any devices champ?

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>Gold is created by exploding stars no man made device can create it.

That's wrong though. We've sythesized gold out of lead in nuclear experiments.

no borders for americans stupidity

Literally to get through the Van Allens and other radioactive barriers, since the 70's ships have had 2 inches of gold in the entire hull for shielding.. Fuck tons of Au are mined every year and it doesnt get used in small electronics or jewelery. It mostly all goes to space exploration and defence.

Wow, user I'm honestly embarrassed for you bud. Less than 1% of the USA population buys gold desu

2 inches of gold would be too heavy for spacecraft. You're just spewing bullshit

Money and gold are both tools to be used in trade. To keep people from murdering each other over food and resources.
The elites keep the general population poor to keep them productive.

Governments for thousands of years debased their currency away from the gold and silver standards. They do this so they can print currency from nothing to pay for goods which leads to inflation. No government can ever resist overprinting currency which is why the USD will fall like the rest.

22 trillion in debt and counting.

so which one is it gold or silver?

this isn't true about gold and silver but it is 100% true about diamonds. diamonds are a scam backed by propaganda tied to marriage.

It actually not a theory. There isn’t any particularly scarcity to either gold or silver since modern mining methods were adopted. (The only reason diamonds aren’t priced like glass is manipulation). Which is the actual reason why everyone got rid of the gold standard. Golds inherent value as a commodity economically ceased to exist. Now, it’s mostly a psychological benchmark and historical financial value. Anyone who is buying and hoarding gold in the event of an meltdown is going to find, after the smoke clears, all this gold flooding whatever market arises ... survivors aren’t going to value it because it practical usefulness is limited, and becuase of supply (and lacking of fiat authority) limits it as a medium of exchange.

This is idiotic. Fusion is so outrageously expensive and inefficient that it will not be usable as a material source even in a hundred years. The fact that it is possible in principle and on small (REALLY small) scales means absolutely nothing.

You think digital money can replace gold as a store of value? Remember the bitcoin craze? That goes to show that even cryto currencies fall victim to boom and bust as only gold remains a tried and true store of value.

It has value because of its properties user. Its logical that its expensive.

When they raided Nikola they took all his shit, he probably had a Philosophers Stone somewhere in there, if he claimed to have time machines and shit.

OPs argument is that gold isnt as scare as the elites would have us believe. Thats nonsense as golds value remains static but rather the inflation and deflation of currencies change. An ounce of gold goes a long way in Venezuela as their currency becomes worthless paper more so everyday.

There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society then to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose.
- John Maynard Keynes

Gold was the enemy to me.
- Paul Volcker, Former Chairman of the Federal Reserve

As Menger described, the monetisation of an asset is the transition in a barter economy from fundamental to monetary value; in modern financial markets, monetisation occurs when the official money – fiat currency – is abandoned as a storage of value. This modern monetisation has two prerequisites: that the fiat currency is mismanaged, and that there is a free and public market in one or more monetisable assets.

As investors will always seek to maximise the time-transferable value of their wealth, this tells us: that (I) there will always be investment; that (II) to the investor, the only distinction between monetised assets is their performance as a time-transferable storage of wealth; that (III) the market valuation of monetised assets will be distorted proportionally to the investor recognition of the time-transferable value of that asset; and, that (IV) the driving force behind the monetisation of an asset is chiefly dependent on the possibility, then time-frame, of its debasement.

You know what you never see, you never see platinum or palladium sold in anything more than an ounce. You can easily buy gold in kilos if you have enough of the chosen green rectangles though.

Lacking any industrial utility, the value of this monetised asset is the ratio of investor demand to asset supply. In the case of fiat currency debasement, the broad money (M3) supply is limited to the issuing government. The majority of this debasement, takes the form of insured credit expansion – the explicit guarantees of sovereign debt and implicit guarantees of private debt by the government. When the growth rate of broad money exceeds interest rates, investors, interested in value-storage, are driven from the currency. That is, debasement drives investment towards those real non-monetary assets with positive debasement-adjusted interest rates. Those non-monetary assets become monetised, and the free market debases those monetised assets by increasing their production.

By example:
the monetisation of stocks in the early 2000s caused a wave of premature, over-priced IPOs; the monetisation of housing causes waves of mass-produced construction. The regulations and restrictions that surround these assets extend the time-frame of, or eliminate, their debasement, it is for this reason that they are monetised. However, this inevitable debasement of stocks and housing drives their abandonment as money.

As the supply of precious metals is necessarily limited, their value, as money, should, in theory, be entirely dependent on investor demand. In reality, the monetisation of precious metals is restrained by the opacity of central bank gold leasing, gold call options, and gold price management simulate the debasement of gold; capital gains tax and the denial of metal-in-exchange insulate the flow of value between fiat currencies and precious metals; and the historical confiscation of precious metals. In the case of silver, its post-WWII abandonment by the central banks has driven its demonetisation; non-recoverable industrial use remains the majority of demand.

I buy a little physical gold and silver every month. What's in your safe?

Gold was removed from the dollar standard because the government overprinted currency and there was not enough gold to cover the dollars circulated as countries demanded gold for their dollars. Now the USD is on the petrol standard which has a cap of around 40 trillion US dollars at current rates. Thats why the wars are fought in Iraq and other oil producing countries to keep oil trading in US dollars. Because if it didnt the currency would collapse.

Thats why America is headed to war with China as they not only refuse to buy American oil they also refuse to pay for oil in American dollars. With America now being an oil producing nation itself this snub by China is why you should mark 2025 for the next world war.

not like pockets or layer but rather in a plasma state and only when allowed to cool will it form a stable ion

Mint condition Mr. Deeds DVD

Fuck off, Leaf

Its worth more than federal reserve funbux

just because you see an ad on tv doesnt mean the elites are pushing you to buy gold. some huckster is. the elites want you to buy bonds.

>he stockpiled gold and not AKMs

Gold is heavy, so it sinks whe. It. Let's out in Magee, making it rare in the Earth's crust.

theres quite a lot of elements i said the following to my half-Jewish chemistry teacher landlord what if you could get different elements with the same atomic weight

Oh for fucks sake.
It sinks when it melts out.

The rich buy up land with proven uranium deposits.

gold has no value are you actually, non exclusively , fullstop retarded?

pause and never resume yourself nigger

Indeed the federal reserve dollars are play currency while supported by the oil standard and threat of military annihilation. That is how America despite being only 5% of the worlds population consumes most of all.

Thats very interesting that gold resides inside stars as a plasma state.

I mean can we just get free gold by having the cosmic computer simulate it lol

Gold has value because it cannot be counterfeit. It can be devised, traded. Because its money. Gold is why humanity has progressed so much past the barter system. Hoarding say cattle will always be an inferior store of value than the invention of money.

> it has value because you can not counterfeit it!

spoken like a true kike , it has no value

you cant eat gold

you cant even build something with it , becuase its not hard enough


gold is largely obsolete

leaf is right but only tiny amounts of irradiated gold can be created with massive inputs of plutonium. it's much much more expensive than mining the gold which already exists (which btw you can calculate how much there is in the crust by figuring out the approximate universal density distribution of gold)

Kek. The leaf is right. Both of them.

>nothing can mimic it's chemical composition.
This. Or it's ability as a conductor.

How do you devise we harvest this universal bounty of gold?

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The worlds economy is based around precious metals so if we found a massive stash of any of those metals then it would make all the current gold and silver drop in value and it would fuck up the economy

That's exactly what they do with diamonds.

you retarded mutt, one vial of insulin has more value to your people than all the gold reserves in the galaxy combined

Money is a very real concept my friend and gold has been for thousands of years honored as a store of value.

England has taken all the gold stores of Australia

Lacking any industrial utility, the value of this monetised asset is the ratio of investor demand to asset supply. In the case of fiat currency debasement, the broad money (M3) supply is limited to the issuing government. The majority of this debasement, takes the form of insured credit expansion – the explicit guarantees of sovereign debt and implicit guarantees of private debt by the government.
Given the implicit nature of these guarantees, the rate of debasement of fiat currency is only estimable – currently at ~10-15% – but its exponential behaviour is observable. That is, if the rate of interest of an investment is less than this then you are losing value.

Checked. Federal reserve notes are a lie.

Regardless of how much gold there is in the world, the elites own almost all of it by slowly buying it up over the last 50 years, so the end result is the same: none for you when actually matters.


Go to 2:39:25
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You jest.

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>they make us buy gold and silver to make us poor?
? I've never bought gold and silver. Who is forcing you to do it?

False. Government may game the gold markets with the inflation and deflation of currencies but you can as well. The only threat one should have by owning gold is the physical theft of said gold. Governments have been known to confiscate gold but like any worldly object nothing is 100% safe keeping.

lol, so have slaves, yet you are useless and nobody would think you have any kind of value

>offers a heaping pile of no evidence for any of that nonsense
user I’ll give you a rope if you can use it to hang yourself
WOKE

>fooling nobody
>keeps posting
>until it’s obvious where he’s from any why he’s here
recoil in horror, I’ve been found out

rings and earings and watches

>mountain Jew mad that we're about make his gold reserves worthless by inflating the gold market to extremes with our atomized machines
like pottery

Must be 18 to post here

gold has no value u retards, we only store it because it looks nice

not like you dumb niggers can appreciate beuaty

Slaves still exist to today my hostile debater. Debt slaves in western world involuntary take up loans to buy goods they cannot afford. We call this system capitalism.

stop fucking replying to me unless you move to a country that has an acceptable BMI standard

you absolute disgusting fat piece of shit

Hold onto your butts

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Gold is lame.

>being this angry
Are you jealous of my Jew-free ancestral line?

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There is probably unknown amounts of gold on earth but do you know how hard gold is to find, mine, and refine? It’s not a problem of it being finite. It’s a problem that there is only a finite supply.

The risk/reward ratio is one of the highest on earth.

>1

> do you know how hard a piece of fucking rock is to find?
> we need to send a ton of niggers down there s o we can get more of it !

SHUT THE FUCK UP

MUTT

The freedom to consume or be consumed is what makes America such a strong economic powerhouse. I don't understand your hostility to me when we can both agree gold has a place in todays modern financial systems.

How did you know about my homeopathic beliefs and eating habits? Do you have some secret mind reading machine?

Artificial scarcity for every valuable natural resource is standard practice.

> be fat piece of shit
> dont go to school and instead argue about gold you'll never be able to afford

have you tried not being fat for a starters my amigos? i heard its a great feeling to be able to freely move your extremities and not break your joints

i took 800 mg of caffeine right now, im either gonna be indestructible or die from a heart attack

One time I ate a vegetable and got diarrhea. Lol no being fat is fun, also getting an "education" is just what the Soros shills want you to do.

>Jewish outburst damage control

lol its great, i can feel the euphirioa

Good way for ((NASA)) to get gold tho huh?

Governments if their currency is strong enough, can buy and accumulate as much gold as they want, at zero cost. Holding gold (as a sheeple) is just insurance in case governments can't refrain from inflating the value of their currency to nothing via overprinting.

Good idea in Ukraine, Venezuela etc, not so necessary in the US, Switzerland, Singapore.

South Africa? I pity the white nigger whose money isn't in gold. (If you have gold in a country like south Africa, where you know the government is about to kill you and take your property, you can try to get your gold and yourself out of the country)

If every space craft has that much gold on it... Can we even began to calculate how much gold nasa wraps around it's spaceships? This is important details

you have shit theories
dont buy gold
let stupid people like me buy it instead more cheaper

dont copy me guys, coz Im stupid

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>there was not enough gold to cover the dollars circulated as countries demanded gold for their dollars.
And the American people in 1933. US dollars should be considered a worthless Fiat currency post repudiation.

But yeah you can still redeem them for gold, at $1,200 per ounce instead of $20 like it said on the (fraudulent and now repudiated notes)

>Now the USD is on the petrol standard which has a cap of around 40 trillion US dollars at current rates. Thats why the wars are fought in Iraq and other oil producing countries to keep oil trading in US dollars. Because if it didnt the currency would collapse.

I disagree. It would be extremely easy for any country to store it's wealth in gold, and only hold enough US$ as necessary to make current purchases. The (((reasons))) for our war policies in the ME are more nuanced.

Silver and gold are two of the best conductors of electricity and thus are used in high end electronics.

They're value is definitely not just some psychological bs.

kek