US War of independence
1775-1783
Middle of the conflict = 1779
Now there is a theory that every 80 years a major happening starts because generations forget the horrors of war and the cycle starts again.
1779 + 80 = 1859 (us civil war started in 1861)
1859 + 80 = 1939 (ww2)
1939 + 80 = 2019 (Fug)
Are you ready anons?We can all feel it in the air in one way or another.
Does it has to be this way?
Can we stop it?And if not , what are you doing to prepare.
Bump
Cocaine
well i guess everyone is posting on dick threads and we are due for another conflict because no one gives a shit.
gotta love those wars
This are not just wars , this are total changes in paradigm happening every 80 years , in france the middle of the french revolution + 80 gives you basically the franco prussian war and the start of the third republic.
It´s at every fucking place were a great conflict happened , add 80 years and you have another conflict.
Tree of Liberty must be refreshed.
So it seems , born just in time to see the blood flow and not be able to enjoy a good life.
Fug
>because generations forget the horrors of war
Did you learn nothing in Holocaust class?
>Are you ready anons?
I'm unfit for service (Health issues beyond my control, not some shitty reason like being a fat fuck) so it doesn't matter. Have fun getting fragged for Israel user!
You missed the biggest daddy of them all
WWI
maybe you need to do your calculations again.
This theory says that conflicts that change everything happen due to ideological phases.
WW1 was the begining of the end but it did not changed anything ideological or culturaly , all those things like women in the workforce consolidated themselves in ww2.
The first 1779 restored republicanism since the republic of venice was more of a larp at this point.
The second abolished slavery.
The third established the democratic order we live today.
WW1 changed nothing except give the conditions for ww2 , even the nobility was virtually untouched outside ruskyland.
en.wikipedia.org
>WW1 changed nothing
You had me until this incredibly stupid statement
Better luck next time
what type of mong just skips WW1 because it shits on your lame argument
What political , economical or cultural change ww1 did?Beside communism finally gaining a stronghold.
It changed nothing civilization continued on the same path of colonialism , and states growing more and more while individualism was destroyed.
The us independence war changed everything and started the rebirth of republicanism , the us civil war the abolishment of slavery and ww2 established the current economic / political order.
en.wikipedia.org
Look at the Archetypes and the timeline , milenials enter the hero generation and gen z the artist generation.
It even makes fucking sense of how milenial news are about muh hero for some shit like traveling and how genz culture us obsesed with memes.
It´s a fucking cycle.
>1859 + 80 = 1939 (ww2)
Huh, and I thought there was a war in 1914...I guess it wasn't anything significant, huh
Yeah m8, this doesn't apply to the rest of the world, only to the US. Us Euros have been starting wars every couple of years
GenZ starts in '95 tho... Not in 2005.
WW1 falls in the third generation of the cycle that has a war > economic conflict > and worshping of entrepreneurs like henry ford , steve jobs or elon musk.
WW1 in our generations are the middle east conflicts > 2008 > post 2008 recovery
Now we are reaching the mid of the last generation entering the cycle before it repeats.
I would tend to agree and yet even those born in 1995 remember how it was before 2001 at least a little.
The generation born after 2003- 2005 does not even know how it was before the internet.
The spice must flow.
we need 1776 again
A world war is hardly comparable to the (((interventions))) in the middle east
It just doesn't work. You're clearly an Americunt since you forgot to consider the rest of the world
WW1 led to mass mechanization and modernization of militaries. We went from overwhelming use of horses to overwhelming use of vehicles in less than a decade. Complete changes in uniforms, tactics, air warfare development, etc.
WW1 was the doorway to the modern world.
Well, let's take 2000 as the start of GenZ. I was born that year, don't remember 9/11 and internet has been a part of my life for as long as I can remember.
When does Alpha generation start tho? 2010?
And lest not for get gas, machine guns, and civilians as casualties. Remember when armies used to meet on the battlefield and fight each other? Me neither, but that's how it used to be.
>WW1 was the begining of the end but it did not changed anything ideological or culturaly
Hahahahahahahahaha
hopefully. am bored af, user kun
Literally all the problems we have with infighting in the middle East is a direct result of the ottoman collapse in ww1.
Try again.
Communist revolution in russia = 1917
Collapse of the URSS = 1992(end of 1991)
74 years of a culture , economic system and way of life.(around the 80 years cycle).
French revolution 1789 + 80 years = 1869
80 years of a culture of political conflict , wars and economic chaos ended up with the franco prussian war and the fourth republic.
It´s everywere user, now add 80 years to 1869 and you literally end up in the start of the fourth french republic starting another cycle.
>80 years of a culture of political conflict , wars and economic chaos ended up with the franco prussian war and the THIRD republic.
But the entire cycle of 80 years was about mechanization user , it ended in 1939 because ww2 was about to bring nuclear weapons.
The entire political system was the same , and the rise of central banking predated the war , while it changed history , the political systems remained the same , on the same track than before ,ww2 changed that by finishing the 80 years cycle.
well using that logic, modern American culture didnt start until after WW2, when we became the world power due to every other previous world power being wiped out from the war. 1945 + 80 = 2025. We still have a few years.
the dissolution of empires and monarchies perhaps fuckwit
ww1 spread the spanish flu all over the world. also it made the US rich. since we won the war we got to decide which country's have to pay for everything. this paved the way for excessive lifestyles in the 20s. stock market buying on margin. evangelism. not to mention setting the stage for ww2.
What empire?The austrohungarian empire?
That was fucked already before ww1 , monarchies remained after ww1 pretty strong , germanic world , russia and the ottomans being the exception to this.
Besides the austrohungarian empire was already fucked , they even attempted to invade Mexico and put a habsburg in Mexico.
American culture is interesting in this cycle because the usa somehow passed these cycles victorious but the new one is coming and the entire country may be fucked.
The us was already rich as fuck , a worker could buy a house only saving 9 months of his work.
WW1 only proved the us industrial capacity to the world.
>Does it has to be this way?
I am personally a part of the cycle. While the rational part of me knows that war is horrible and should be avoided, the romantic part of me wants battles for glory and a return to greatness for my country.
OP lists the generational cycle turnings in the US and you brainlets reason that generational cycles aren't true because X happened in some other country. Very little directly changed for the U.S. in WW1. No US major culture, government, or geographic changes were impacted as a result of WW1. Also, these cycles apply to free societies. Citing the mid-east is a non-starter. Read a Read a book. Start with The Fourth Turning.
Well if the China railgun shit isn't completely bullshit. Unlikely I know. They'll have to use it before the US catches up otherwise it was a complete waste of time and money, so perhaps a naval war for supremacy in the Asian seas.
And this is happening everywere , most generations now that remember war are dead and war is being glorified again.
Compare any action movie to liveleak and you know that no one doing this movies has seen someone being shot.
The cycle is repeating.
Exactly the cycle changes the culture , economic system and political.
WW1 did not change the course , colonialism only continued , militarism too , the slow spread of republicanism even if corrupted too.
Only once the cycle ended after ww2 we see again another era starting.
It may have been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, but just to be clear the 80yrs is the magic number because it is length in years of a human life (generation). Each generation has a mood that is derived by the influences of the previous generations which is the mechanism driving the generational cycles.
I want to believe but it just feels like we are so placated by technology I can't picture it happening
Any historian worth his salt knows that World War 1 was the death of the West and that everything since has been a direct cause of the Great War.
WW1 was the beginning of the end of the world. If you can't understand that, you need to go back to a library.
Also interesting is that cycles for entire empires have been studied. The average which is approximately 250yrs. Then we have the shorter generational cycles taking place approximately every 80yrs or so.
1776 + 250 = 2026 is the approximate date for the US to end as we know it today.
Keeping in mind these are all approximations it's a good bet that things are gonna get fucking ugly here real soon.
It's worth noting though that Rome didn't end on A specific date. The fall took years and no one labled a final year until hundreds of years after.
Also. America was not an empire until arguably the early 1900s and almost all of our policy pre-Theodore Roosevelt was non-interventionist (aside from trying to win Canada). So I'd say our empire is just slightly over 100 years--nowhere near 250. To say the empire began in 1789 is foolish imo
Nigga in ww1 people were still using line formations, bayonete charges and cavalry . Both the national socialist and bolshevik revolutions were directly related to how ww1 played out, there were MASSIVE social changes because of how many people died trying to mass charge machine gun emplacements and things like that.
>The entire political system was the same
>major european powers change from monarchies to republics
>austria-hungary disappears from the map leaving a giant political vacuum
I hope you are correct user.
I hope so as well. And from my understanding of history, our structure evolved as so:
Colony until 1776
Confederacy from 1780 until 1789
Republic from 1789 until 1861
Federal Republic from 1865 until 1910
Empire from roughly 1916 to Present
Philippines was one of our first true imperial acquisitions, so to call ourselves an empire before then is anachronistic. Though I realize some people see the Republic as an imperial force in Westward expansion, but the philosophy of Western expansion and the reality of the onesidedness of warfare between whites and natives negates that. We were not an empire until around WW1
>major european powers change from monarchies to republics
Same thing that was happening during the 19th century to some degree.
>austria-hungary disappears from the map leaving a giant political vacuum
The vacuum was already there austrohungary was collapsing for a long time.
That´s the point user , after the 80 years cycle a new paradigm started , new tactics , new strategies , new cultures , new politics , new problems.
Yes , there seems to be a 250 years cycle of rise to degeneracy causing a total decay and 80 years cycles of conflicts.