Everything seems hopeless

>You honestly don't have the wherewithal to make any big decisions for yourself.
You're right.

I guess I failed to underestimate your faculty to take hyperbole too seriously

>Have you tried to go to see a psychiatrist?
I see my therapist again in 2 days.
>They can be very helpful.
How?

You take it when you say that you "fail at everything" and then feel bad about something you said in your head by ignoring everything else and skewering your perceptual filters.

I don't usually fail to take a shit for instance but that doesn't suddenly make my life not worthless.

How do you know that? What do you define as "worthy"? I'll tell you, some geriatric people would be damn glad if they could shit consistently.

They can try to help you find balance in life. It also depends on what they ask you to do and how willing you are to follow their advice. Fear is something that can hold people back in this.

I said worthless, not worthy.

Do you even know the difference between a therapist and a psychiatrist?

I know what you said. My question still stands.

Being someone that earns praise from myself or others.

Since it's "or", I'd just focus on earning praise from yourself. Whenever you do simple shitty successfully, say "congratulations" and be all excited and giddy about it. Whenever negative thoughts come to mind, tell them to get the fuck out. You'll be surprised at how much your life changes just by changing which aspects of it you pay attention to.

So you're telling me to be irrational and to lie to myself then

Lie? Boy, you literally choose how you perceive things. You're trained to see things through certain filters from a young age. Just like people have ideological differences, religious differences, moral differences, preferences in general, preconceptions, stereotypes, all boils down to what you automatically perceive from the external world. It'd be impossible to take the world in from a pure objective perspective, because at every moment there are an almost infinite amount of things in your general vicinity you could be paying attention to. My suggestion is just to train yourself to pay attention to more positive aspects of your everyday life and tell the negative ones to fuck off.

Life is what you make it. If something bad comes to mind find an interest that helps take your mind off of it. If you say I'm good for these reasons, how is it a life if it's actually true

>My suggestion is just to train yourself to pay attention to more positive aspects of your everyday life
aspects like what?

>If something bad comes to mind find an interest that helps take your mind off of it.
I don't have any interests anymore.
Depression took them from me.

you're so much more succesful than me at least you can carry a smart discussion with that other user. if someone replied to my advice thread with big words and arguments i start sweating heavily and don't know what to say and always end up leaving my thread because im scared of sounding stupid because i dont know any of these things.

I can only do that because I've been on this shithole for 8 years.

Then find some. Depression is hard but you have to fight it not let it win. Did the therapist give you meds? Take em. Watch an old TV show you like. Read an old book. Do something to distract yourself.

>Then find some.
Nobody seeks out and finds interests, they just fall into them.
>Depression is hard but you have to fight it not let it win.
How?
>Did the therapist give you meds?
No.
>Watch an old TV show you like.
I don't like any tv shows
>Read an old book. Do something to distract yourself.
Like what?

>Nobody seeks out and finds interests, they just fall into them.
Bullshit. If you don't take action nothing falls from heaven.
>How?
Follow user's advice of telling the shitty thoughts to fuck off
Like what?
Go find some hobbies and interests.

I gave you some ideas. You use to have had some form of interest in to your life. Just do something that brought you joy before you got sick. How to find new interest? Do you like history, science, politics, art, science fiction? Watch a show or movie that involves one of those that gives you some form of interest.

>Bullshit. If you don't take action nothing falls from heaven.
How did you find your interests?
>Follow user's advice of telling the shitty thoughts to fuck off
Do you really think that if that was possible I wouldn't have done it already?
>Go find some hobbies and interests.
How?

>You use to have had some form of interest in to your life.
Stuff I pretended to like to avoid judgement socially.
>Just do something that brought you joy before you got sick.
Nothing has ever brought me joy.
>Do you like history, science, politics, art, science fiction?
No.
>Watch a show or movie that involves one of those that gives you some form of interest.
I have no interest in shows or movies.

>How did you find your interests?
"Oh look a piano class near my house"
"Gee, that french school is really cheap"
"You guys playing tennis? Can I watch?"
"A new gym near my house. Golly"
>Do you really think that if that was possible I wouldn't have done it already?
It is possible, you just enjoy sulking in your depression because it's easier than to make any effort to be happy.
>How?
Read the fucking thread.

What did you hope to achieve by lashing out at me?

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I'll pop this here for you user, life is a gift

>especially when knowing it's all going to be even worse in the future

Kinda hard to answer to this thread, OP. The rational answer to this is that you can't know that for sure, but I don't think saying this to someone who's depressed would help, since I know how hard it is to see it.

>What's even the point anymore?

This is also impossible to answer without background info

Anyway, I know that saying this doesn't really help, but I do hope everything ends up working out for you in the end

Do you like your therapist, OP? The one advice I think I can give you that'd actually help is to change therapists if you don't feel comfortable with the one you're with right now (like, if you feel that they don't really care for you/you don't trust them in some way). Having a good bond with your therapist is by far the most important thing

>Life is what you make it.
This mindset is so simplistic and cancerous, holy fucking shit

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>It is possible, you just enjoy sulking in your depression because it's easier than to make any effort to be happy.
stop taking jordan peterson so seriously, user

>Nobody seeks out and finds interests, they just fall into them
I used to believe this. It took a lot of personal control to give new things a chance. I suggest signing up for adult hobby classes. Like cooking classes. Or ballroom dances. Something that follows a schedule. Make sure that you attend each class (usually its once a week, so its really low maintenance/commitment). You don't even have to like it. Just go because you paid for the classes, lmao. I did that with sculpting -- I hated the first class and wanted to quit by the second week. I'm a guy with no artistic nature at all. At the end of the semester I ended up loving the class and I'm finally teaching my first workshop in September (once a month; it took me 4 years of sculpting classes and extra lessons to get here).

tl;dr: try commiting to an adult hobby class.

Not OP but I have similar feelings, is it really worth not offing myself based on the slim chance of enjoying life 10 years down the line, when I know that doing it soon will end any chance of suffering for good? I feel miserable constantly and I'm entirely dependent on other people to make me not feel like shit/hate myself

Life is a beautiful lie and death is an ugly truth

Just die you piece of biological waste.