Holocaust Death Toll

I heard around 1 mil

500,000 died from complications of typhoid and starvation

the actual census data is interesting

this is the american almanac from 1949 - using first estimates since the war

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>Japan
>200
wat?

I didn't realize just how long Jews have been in the US in large numbers. But yeah, an official source wouldn't be stupid enough to post that the Jewish population stayed the same, even if the Holocaust didn't happen.

there were some jews in Japan. Merchants, bankers that sort of thing.

actual census data in pic related

given that three mil Polish jews died, you heard wrong

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and what did the other 5 million die of?

oh shooting and gassing mostly...

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Over 6 gorillion

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the maerican World Almanac isnt an official source - but deniers rely on it (cutting out the bit that says they used 1939 data in 1948 because they had no recent data) to "prove" that no jews died at all in the war years.

they really are sad.

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There isn't one (1) Holocaust denier standing today that hasn't already been BTFO - whether they were caught lying or completely misrepresenting their sources. From Irving, to Cole, to Rudolf, to Mattogno, to Faurrison, to Zundel, to Weber.
Even Eric Hunt has retracted most of his claims.
Irving doesn't even deny gassings anymore - have a look at what he say about Operation Reinhard.

youtube.com/watch?v=WIdjRJMyByY&bpctr=1536416337

siraaronrichards.imgur.com/

holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.ie/2012/10/index-of-published-evidence-on.html

holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.ie/2017/06/debunking-david-coles-auschwitz-video.html

bo ho .com 5 millions jews died almost 50 years ago let it go stop bullying germany

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the real official figures, taken from actual census data are quite clear

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Zero deaths Bros!

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since you probably don't speak English as a first language I should probably tell you "gorillion" isn't a real number

"gorillion" is actually an inside joke on Pol. it means "the person using this word is a cunt" sorry you have been fooled into using it.

LOl who?

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Oh I agree - the holocaust is being exploited dreadfully by the Israelis adn Jews worldwide.

but it still happened, and denial of it only strengthens the Jews hand.

to deny it simply makes you look like a liar, and a psychopath, or just stupid. It gives zionists a weapon against you.

I do not understand why jew haters deny it - shouldn't they be proud of it?

200,000 from Typhus

>78,730
>WAT

Btw theres a great book explaining the exploitation of the Holocaust called ``The Holocaust Industry `` by Norman Finkelstein

at most 250k, mainly due to supply lines being cut near the end of the war by the allies. Nobody was gassed. Typhus was a thing as well.

no you're wrong you shill. normally the jews are able to pull of amazingly complex mind control operations involving millions of people to hoax a genocide without anyone ever coming forward, but just this one time (((they)) ) fucked everything up and let this random unsourced population census through for internet detectives to stumble upon and make memes from. come on, get some imagination people

They definitely died but the numbers don’t matter it’s how they died that’s important, people think that 6 million Jews were shoved into gas chambers instead of dying from disease and starvation from a war torn Germany. Its also important how many of the dead were actually Jews as gays and communist were also put in these camps

Dude jews be jewing

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sub 80 iq confirmed. Go back to r/eddit.

yup, makes sense. so at the begining of the war (or at least the start of the invasion of the USSR) when they had lots of supplies they were taking care of their jews. except in the USSR where they just shot everyone. there must have been some confusion, you know all this debate about words (like "liquidate" actually meant "resettle in the East"). maybe the Einzatsgruppen thought "give them food and swimming lessons" meant "just kill them". oops

Who has the meme where the jew sees the sign free and is happy then work will set you free and is in a panic

Pretty sure he was just memeing, kek.

but that does not explain any of the deaths in the early years of the war/ You have heard of the Warsaw Ghetto? more than that numebr of people died there. Can you explain the einsatzgruppen reports lifing over a million killed? how about the auschwitz death books - they list over 70,000 killed in Camp 1 of Auschwitx in 1942-43 - long before the end of the war, long before the allies cut supplies. they are not deaths from typhus either - typhus was not a problem in auschwitzat that time. those 70K deaths are in only 20 months, for the small labour camp - which held 20,000 people capacity (so yes they killed the entire camp capacity three and half times in less than two years, and the camp was open for five years, and this was the small camp - the large camps at Monowitz and Birkenau are not covered in these death books, adn they had five times the numebr of prisoners capacity - if we extrapolate the figures to cover the whole camp over its entire open period we get more than 800,000 deaths in that one camp alone...)

The number keep growing, but my answer stays the same: Not enough.

Ah shit, I stand corrected :)

wow, your psychic powers are amazing.

go back to the rock you crawled out from under

250 000 by the end of the war because no medication and food because the allies bombed it
130 000 of that were jews
no gases and masturbation rides [sadly]

>(like "liquidate" actually meant "resettle in the East").

>"give them food and swimming lessons"

you know the "swimming pool" at Auschwitz was built as a reservoir (it has sloping sides - not good pool design) adn the SS had diving boards put on it in summer 1942 (the work order for it still exists) to use for their recreation? You know that for the inmates to use it they would each have less than 1 second per day to swim? assuming they queued for a dip 24 hours a day and jumped in and got out...

the swimming pool meme is really pretty lame.

but so is the idea that they were well fed int he camps - there are letters in 1943 ordering the rations to be increased to stop the workforce starving (which had previously been the deliberate policy) as they were running out of fresh jews to use as slaves, and needed the trained ones to do vital war work.

source for these (stupid) figures?

>240.000 jews in Total in Germany before they start to run away (which decreases the number of deaths even further)
Thats not even close to 6million.

>Tfw you will never be masturbated to death by large, busty. germanic, giantesses

well, give the boy credit - he is right. When Himmelr talked of tearing up by the roots like weeds he didn't mean "carefully replant them like precious botanical specimens" he meant root them out of society and dump them on the compost heap to die.

when Goebbels talked of only 40% being fit for work as slaves ans the rest had to be "liquidated" he didn't mean "kept in holiday camps"

>I don't like the figures, so they must be stupid
6 gorillion is a debunked meme.

Muh 6 million

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according to the Nazis own census in Germany pre war there were over a million jews and half jews (counted as full jews) so your figure is wrong.

also, you know they killed three million Polish jews? over a million jews in Lithuania, Latvia Belarus Ukraine adn crimea? half a million Hungarian jews? that Romania killed over a quarter of a million jews without German help, also counted as part of the holocaust?

the Yugoslavs killed 80-100,000 also without german help. also counted.

the numbers across Europe add up.

about 5.7 million Jews is the most accurate number

nope, I have no dislike for the figures, but they are simply unsustaineable. source?

I am prepared to bet it goes back to teh Red Cross figures for persons traced by their tracing service, which are not death totals and the Red Cross have nailed that lie decades ago.

top line thirs story in - not about jews, does not mention 6 million.

wow.

cherry pick much?

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thats very easy to counter, as orders for rations to be increased would be more proof of how generous the Nazis were and how concerned the camp authorities were for the inmates well-being. Same with every report of a Jew receiving medical attention. And of course any document or testimony suggesting the opposite (mass shootings, gassings, death through forced labor) can just be called fake. its like debating ideology or religion with people, you cant change their mind, there will always be some sort of rationalization why they're right and you're wrong
and i'm making fun of the pool meme. most denier retards have no idea there was more than one camp in Auschwitz

Not enough

THE RED CROSS -------- AKA THE ONLY REAL NUMBERS WE KNOW OF

According to which source?
>unsustainable
So are the 6 million. Do you have the source for the 5,7million stated above?

>>Tfw you will never be masturbated to death by large, busty. germanic, giantesses

you could probably pay some to do that if you like...

but the masturbation machines story comes from an Australian novel, by a non jew, which was withdrawn shortly after release because it was so bad.

In the book not only are their lots of children in auschwitz (few were kept alive there, for medical experiments, but the majority were killed on arrival until late 1944 when they stopped the mass killings) but they escaped from the camp twice, the second time they got out they were adopted by wolves who fed them and kept them safe until the end of the war.

it is really truly terrible.

That seems to be the figure most historians now use. Raul Hilberg documented 5.1 million very closely, so that has to be a minimum figure.

but he was being very cautious and conservative with his numbers.

Did the nazi give medical treatment to sick Jews in concentration camps or no? As far as I know, the answer is yes. Everything seems to point out that jews were dying to Typhus and germans were trying to save them. If someone can prove this wrong they're welcome. Even Anne Frank died to Typhus and she had a nurse to her side.

the census figures support a 5.5 to possible maximum 6 million figure

i also remember something about this, and someone saying many (most?) of these deaths were listed as heart attacks. i doubt they would just write "heart attack" on each death report but on the off chance that they actually were that sloppy, do you have any sources on this? cant seem to find any

whatever the Red Cross said

Dresden?

Right here subvertednation.net/dresden-the-real-holocaust/

2 hospitals in Auschwitz

6 sextillion at least.

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no. they are no treal numbers.

the Red Cross did not keep a count of deaths during the war (and had no means to do so) they have never made an estimate of the deaths int eh camps - they had no means to do so.

Deniers took an internal report from the International tracing service which detailed how people they had traced through their very small archive of camp records (it does not cover all camps, it does not have complete records for any camp, it does not cover the Operation Rheinhardt killings or the Einsatzgruppen killings at all) and pertend that this is some Red cross total.

it isn't. the red Cross say so.

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Go back

Give it up, Moussier Moshe. You've been shilling for the Holoca$t for months now. Shouldn't JIDF swap you with someone else now? It's been to long.

they did.

it is a medical statistical anomaly - the man who actually wrote the books says he was told to put heart failure for all violent deaths, including gassings and shooting and beatings.

nytimes.com/2016/05/15/nyregion/ernest-michel-who-survived-auschwitz-and-led-jewish-charities-dies-at-92.html

>pass out in "gas chamber"
>rushed to hospital
>too sick to be gassed
kike what?

>Hilberg

Have you bothered to read the stories in which he got the numbers from? You should. You would look less like a fool most likely.

If you say "holocaust deniers" are liars then why are you In this thread typing walls of text to convince us?
It didn't happen but Jews and communists deserve death. Germany did a noble and brave thing standing up to them. Japan too.
Go axis!

i always wondered about this. its possible that in some cases the German would want to perserve inmates, even Jews, in these camps for labor or whatever reason, but really how extensive was this "treatment"?
this site history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/33d/projects/medicine/Medicine.htm
seems to suggest that a lot of the typhus "treatments" were actually experimental methods looking for ways to cure typhus (to help German citizens and troops, etc) using readily available human guniea pigs, which often killed the patients outright. this is on top of Mendele's etc more bizarre experimentation. Besides this, how much of the "treatment" was just triage, put you somewhere and see if you live or not?

What is the source? 120k jews died/moved somewhere else. Is there a Jewish births thing as well?

97,000 strong slave labour camp. including several POW sub camps, and over thirty other sub camps.

of course they ahd a hospital. You have highly trained, highly skilled workers doing vital war work - you look after them.

also, you have a camp crammed full of people - you want to isolate the sick.

no one ever said the hospital care was good...

and having a hospital for your slaves does not mean that you cannot also indulge in killing those who are not fit for slavery.

for instance Anne Frank was taken as a slave - she was fifteen, adult enough to work. On her train were 79 children under fifteen - all killed, along with another 500 from her train (mostly old people adn women) who they did not enter into the camp records.

we know this because we have a list of the people on the train, and a list of those entered into the camp for labour.

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300,000. There were only 4 million Jews in all of Europe at the turn of the century, and 2/3rds of German Jewry fled in the thirties. Where did they find all those kikes to kill? It's ridiculous.

any specifics for the data? most deniers will dismiss all personal accounts as a hoax as a rule, unless it helps their side

I love how people who didn't learn to type correctly on a proper typewriter in the 1970's think that double line spacing was invented by children on the interwebs in the 21st century. It is sweet.

I bet you think we didn't have sex, drugs or rock and roll back then either.

fuck off child.

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>or instance Anne Frank was taken as a slave - she was fifteen, adult enough to work.
That's not what the holohoax narrative is Moshe. You should check your facts. Anne Frank was a child and a woman, going by every account she should have been gassed immediately on arrival. Children and females were gassed. Only men were send to work. Of course, that is not true, but that is what the holocaust narrative is.

Kill yourself retarded boomer

As always, the Marxists accuse you of exactly what they're guilty of. This is word for word exactly what Stalin's armies did to dozens of now non-existant peoples he conquered on the way to Berlin.

Of course no gas, just bullets or raped to death, much more efficient, better for army morale.

not all camps were the same.

there was no hospital at Treblinka, Sobibor or Belzec. they didn't have accomodation at Treblinka apart from a small crew of slaves to work the gas chambers asn burn the bodies on pyres. they just had people arrive, strip off for a "shower" and then kill them.

of course they had hospitals (but not very good ones - often just isolation wards to die in or recover naturally) they ahd huge slave populations. you need some basic sanitation, especially for skilled workers who you need for war work.

typhus kills less than 10% of vivtims if untreated apart from bed rest and water - if the victims are healthy to start with. the high death rate from it was because the victims were half starved, over worked, cold and weakened by their dreadful living conditions.

And how is that compared to the work by Danish "holocaust archeologist" Anders Otte Stensager? While being a bleeding heart liberal, and still suckling the uncut dick of current holocaust stories, he couldn't get any higher number than 4 million, even if he was trying as best as he could.

the red Cross have never said any number.

fun fact the pyres for the dead at Dresden were built by the SS unit that ran treblinka and learned how to do mass body burning there.

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@ aushwitz, for the jews.. around 35k estimate.
total 75-80k.
probably anywhere from 400k-multi-mill total.

millions of people did die.
jews, whites, everyone was getting fucked up.
world was @ war.

Thanks for helping my point....(((they))) just like making up numbers.....it's all plain bullshit and the truth is coming out more and more

~200,000-600,000

Ad hominem argument with no foundation? check

Post by a moron - confirmed.

~270 typhoid deaths
30-50 killed

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Auschwitz had to downgrade the "total deaths"....

... next?

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you obviously have not.

His numbers are not from eyewitness statements but from train records, camp records adn census data. his numbers are thoroughly documented.

your dimissal of Hilberg suggests you ahev not read him, nor his sources. (but i am prepared to bet you have seen that stupid youtube video with the creepy voice that dismissed Hilberg by misquoting from one of his sources)

Why do you hate Germans? Are you a Jew?

>If you say "holocaust deniers" are liars then why are you In this thread typing walls of text to convince us?

I'm sorry, but I do not get the point of this question?

If deniers were not liars I would be supporting the deniers. I am typing here because I am debunking the liars. I support the truth.

You will be pleased to know that it did happen - so they got what they deserved.

Although I find it had to think that the thousands of children murdered really deserved it.

Never heard about the holohoax, but there was a hohol massacre alright.

thats not the official holocaust narrative. you can still work if you're a woman. women did most of the work in ww2. you dont need to bench 200lb to make shoes

No .... the fake frog is a shill who is always on these WW2 breads..... he's retarded and is trying his best to pull everyone into the "affirmed narrative" .... he's already lost by most of his posts today ....

the source is 1939 data being used again in 1948.

so it is bullshit.