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Well the healthcare system isn't really free market... isn't really capitalism... but ok. ( at least in America)

competition means you are bombarded with medication you don't need.

fuck you, of course unhealthy people should die, ESPECIALLY if they burned all their bridges and have no family earnings, Jesus christ shit on a stick why the fuck would anyone in their right mind want to pay their hard earned money to support a fucking BREEDING PROGRAM for epileptics, gays, diabetics and the blind? Sounds like sick cash-grabbing at best by the medical industry,same as vaccines dude if pox is gonna kill you then start digging the fucking hole, no point passing the buck of your shit pedigree onto your potential offspring

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citizens can afford varying levels of "health" care.
most people can buy band-aids, cough drops, or tylenol.
those ARE examples of healthcare.
can most people pay for open heart surgery? no
the costs scale with the level of complexity and skill needed to address the issue.
to say citizens are unable to afford this universally ambiguous thing called healthcare ignores the many degrees, levels, severity, complexity, and need of the billions of people on earth with separate and unique medical issues specific to them and them alone.

Healthcare was cheaper before government interference in the market

It is illegal for a hospital to turn away a patient because they cant afford treatment. Hospital debt does not show up on credit reports. You're all fucking retarded.

But there isn't competition because the government has to get involved

>Diving in the ocean without healthcare

>pay for my fat, 400lb ass!
>laziness "runs" in muh dna

Too bad the federal government eliminates endurance companies’ ability to compete

We have public assistance for poor/disabled people.

What you mean like markets are not open to more competition?

>diving in the ocean

do you want to die cause thats how you die

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Why are leftists memes ALWAYS

and i mean

LI T E R A L L Y

ALWAYS

just pictures with text in standard times new roman font PASTED over it?

Jesus christ, i know the left cant meme is a meme in itself, but it Really does hold merit when its the SAME SHIT

EVERY TIME

pepe (a green frog) has NEVER
NOT EVEN ONCE (1 TIME) said a WORD.

and he was put on the national hate registry as a nazi symbol and made hillary clinton give a entire speech about him and the alt right.

The left cant ever do that.

killing commys across state lines will salve all the ills

>cant pay for a service
>wants it for free

huh

Shhh.. We're pushing a narrative so that all our healthcare is run like the post office & BMV, don't ruin it OK.

Lol you dumbass wtf are you even talking about?

Healthcare in Brazil is a constitutional right.
Too bad the shithole that is USA is too poor to aford it lul.

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Everyone dies, sorry about your poor luck of being born human.

Number of medical advances in procedures or care from Brazil?

Medical debt appears on credit reports and unpaid medical debt negatively affects credit score. Lenders just aren't allowed to discriminate based specifically on medical debt. They can still deny you for a bad credit score.

Calling something a "right" does not magically make it immune from market forces

Left can't meme. Obviously the provider would find a way to keep their customers. They would let their own competition drown but customers are your friends.

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but wouldnt making stuff cheaper BE helping?
I dont get it

I literally don't want to pay extra taxes for Shaneequa's liposuction.

I come from a middle-class white Republican family and we all invest in health insurance and don't drink/smoke/get AIDS because we're not retarded.

You'll be fine, fag.

>jumping into pool not knowing how to swim
>complaining when you drown
This is no fault but your own.

>muh market forces
Human life is now a commodity?
Also are those the same benevolent market forces that has your country permanently medicated on all kinds of big-pharma shit?

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>citizens unable to afford healthcare

Aka shitskins, junkies, alcoholics and retards. Let them die.

Hey one-post faggot, give us a fixed price per citizen for "health care".

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Subsidizing health care means insurance companies dont have to bother competing.

Dumbocrat

>but ok
>Too bad
>LITERALLY
>Shh..
>Literally
Christ, the reddit is strong today

The only good version of that meme is the one about prostitution.

Call me dumb but don't call me a democrat.
They get the bullet too.

give us a fixed price per citizen for "health care".

Also:

>“The useful idiots, the leftists who are idealistically believing in the beauty of the Soviet socialist or Communist or whatever system, when they get disillusioned, they become the worst enemies. That’s why my KGB instructors specifically made the point: never bother with leftists. Forget about these political prostitutes. Aim higher. [...] They serve a purpose only at the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your leftists in the United States: all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defenders. They are instrumental in the process of the subversion only to destabilize a nation. When their job is completed, they are not needed any more. They know too much. Some of them, when they get disillusioned, when they see that Marxist-Leninists come to power—obviously they get offended—they think that they will come to power. That will never happen, of course. They will be lined up against the wall and shot.”

― Yuri Bezmenov

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I cant' give you a price because health care should be free.

Then who pays the fucking doctors? They should work for free?

>I cant' give you a price
and this is exactly why your ideology fails and it's formally debunked in the field of economics

please burgers tell me how my health should be subject to being profitised

like the creators of the polio and smallpox vaccine who didnt patent them to save lives?

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Show your flag, faggot demoshit.
T. Country with """"""free""""" healthcare

>like the creators of the polio and smallpox vaccine who didnt patent them to save lives?
You're making the argument that jonas salk was never paid for the entirety of his career?

Please kraut, give us a figure for how much should be spent per person. I know you can't.

>ancap
I'll happily talk with capitalists but you are literally bottom of the barrel retarded.
I can't imagine why people fetishize a future where they get exploited even more by capitalism.

i tell you how much. think of a number and add a dollar and do that until the person is well. human lives arent worth throwing away for imaginary ones and zeros on a stock market

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>Human life is now a commodity?
I bet you thought you were tough shit when you typed that.

The answer, by the way, is yes, regardless of your feelings on the matter

You lazy fucking troll. Tell us how much extra money people have to lose to taxes. Tell us how many more people will be homeless to give fatties healthcare.

That image is misleading. Her insurance wouldn’t pay for the laser treatment but approved surgical(which is more expensive).

>Tell us how many more people will be homeless to give fatties healthcare.
You don't need him to tell you that, it already happens under capitalism.

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>health care should be free.
health care is free. cut the tumor out yourself and it won't cost you a penny. Unless you mean to say that you want doctors and nurses, biologists, pharmacists, pharmaceutical companies, etc to all work for out of the goodness of their hearts.

What a worthless faggot. I hope you get your revolution.

youre acting as if fatties would be a thing for much longer once you actually treated obesity instead of stuffing expensive medication down your own peoples throats to make the pockets of rich pharma jews fatter

it really do be like that sometimes. its your shitty system so you find out the reason

Whoa alright, alright, don't shoot.

>I bet you thought you were tough shit when you typed that.
what irony

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>no reply but a reddit meme and some pretend fear for their own life
>gay pride flag
checks out

>youre acting as if fatties would be a thing for much longer once you actually treated obesity
They would call you a bigot because it's their "lifestyle choice" to be obese.

Give a fucking price per person you neutered barbarian.

I hope we do. For your sake as well.
I doubt it tho.
Americans have no class consciousness and constantly fall for the bait of racial conflict.

Yeah the communists had great health care. Oh wait, no they didn’t.

>Give a fucking price per person you neutered barbarian.
one dollar. a milliard dollars. what does it matter? its a meaningless number on some server and not backed by gold or even just labour. pick any number you want

sage

>youre acting as if fatties would be a thing for much longer once you actually treated obesity instead of stuffing expensive medication down your own peoples throats to make the pockets of rich pharma jews fatter
>stuffing expensive medication down your own peoples throats
I think the whole point of the argument against socialized healthcare is that user DOESN'T WANT TO PAY for those 'expensive medication'

You're a retard, and your ideology is morally bankrupt. I can't wait for your 'revolution' so I can make you put you in a class coma

>Everyone deserves equal treatment whether they deserve it or not!!!

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no one owes you money for healthcare
you do not have a right to healthcare
you do not have a right to force someone to treat you (unless you'd like that treatment to be sabotaged and you killed)

you are a commie faggot. you will die. no one will care. i want you you to suffer first because you hurt my brain with your endless insect buzzing muh free shit

>it really do be like that sometimes. its your shitty system so you find out the reason
I don’t understand what you mean. The laser surgery is newer and has a lower success rate than a traditional surgery (although it is less invasive). The insurance company was willing to pay for a more expensive procedure with a higher chance of success, that doesn’t seem to be shitty.

>Communism makes healthcare more affordable
LMAO
Yeah well when you're dead I guess everything is cheap
XD

Because only when we know how much we have to spend on every person can we set aside money for it in a financial budget, retard.

It's amazing how no matter how many times it happens, the useful idiots don't think their party will turn on them once they seize power.

Very few people can’t afford healthcare that can’t get feee healthcare from the state

Neck yourself commie

Someone finally gets it. Holy shit. Have a (you)

I think you'll find communists are incapable of individual thought. I've been watching commies on the internet and they use the 'guys what's our opinion on X' more than Jow Forums does, and they do it unironically. Don't bother arguing with them unless there's dupes in the audience who you might be able to save.

Welfare is the reason civilization will fall.
Fuck any kind of socialism.

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>I think the whole point of the argument against socialized healthcare is that user DOESN'T WANT TO PAY for those 'expensive medication'
and my point was there wouldnt be a need to pay for them if you got together as a nation and squeezed the balls of big pharma to stop incentivising hospitals to prescribe them

germany seems to be doing swell with 5% if our gdp and we could most likely do better if we nationalised the entirety of health care to the detriment of pharma shareholders

you literally googled that reddit faggot meme from 2012 to post here didnt you?

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>germany seems to be doing swell with 5% if our gdp and we could most likely do better if we nationalised the entirety of health care to the detriment of pharma shareholders

We might be able to afford it as well if we only had 82 million people.

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>there wouldnt be a need to pay for them if you got together as a nation and squeezed the balls of big pharma to stop incentivising hospitals to prescribe them
Okay, name which drugs are being prescribed which are not efficable. If you have some proof that there's snake oil being sold as medication you should tell the FDA, because that would be the lawsuit of the century.

Oh wait, you don't have any, because you're just parroting green party drivel.

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Look mom! I did the thing!

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Well, not to agree with the kraut, but anti-depressants should be federally banned.

>no class consciousness
let me guess, youre a middle class faggot whos lived a useless and coddled life, you cant fight, you cant look after yourself and youv never made anything in your life except for ramen noodles.
but you feel guilty about it and YOU are going to change the world for everyone else, YOU are going to help out those poor stupid pieces of shit lower class scum who are beneath you, it is YOUR divine ideology that will save them because you read a couple of books once.

fucking hell, just die, you useless cunt

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>People starving is better than having some fat people
Commies are seriously this retarded

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leaf really got you mad.

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>100% people with no food is better than 17% of people with no food
You really are retarded, lol

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>Israeli War Crimes
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>Jewish Supremacy
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>The Lobby USA
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>The Occupation of the American Mind
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>"Israel's Internet Censorship War - If Americans Knew"
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