Redpill me on Hitler and the occult

More and more I am being persuaded that what Hitler did was the best thing for humanity in a long time. What he did through national socialism created a utopia in Germany. Germany was debt free, more productive than ever, 100% employed, and best of all, the German people were HAPPY.

But when it gets to Hitler and the occult, I’m still not sure what to think. Anything occult that doesn’t have some kind of Christian foundation seems pretty sketchy to me, but I don’t know if I can even trust the information out there.

Redpill me on this.

What was Hitler’s real involvement in the occult, if any?
If he was involved in the occult, was it evil? Like, blood rituals, child sacrifice, and pedophilia?
If his occult involvement was evil, how did they do so much good? Does his alleged occult involvement even matter if the society was flourishing?
Or is all this more lies, and the occult played little to no role in Germany’s success?

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Actually Himmler was the spiritual head of the Nazis.

Whatever I don't give a crap about Nazis, they helped the Jews much more than their supporters would like to admit.

Only one thing is something I like, their attempt to abolish Christianity and creating their an own religion for Germans.

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look up ilu doctrine (ilu lehre) or thule society (thule gesellschaft) if you want to know more. but keep in mind that a lot of what you find is gonna be desinformation.

Bump

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Wwii was about killing as much men as possible so the rich had more land and pussy. The end, fuck off.

Hitler was just a painter with a fine mustache until the occult selected him to be the figure head of the Nazi Reich. Why they did this is debatable.

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National workers party was partially funded by a group called the Thule Society which had beliefs in a sci-fi novel called A Coming of a Nation or some shit like that which read of ancient subterraneans that fed off of the energy from a transdimensional black sun that overlapped our own.

Apparently they helped grow the nazi party in order for them to have the capability to explore the arctic, where they would meet the underground ancient race. Apparently they misguided the nazis and let them lose the war intentionally (implying weapons tech and plans are coming from occult source) to cover up all tracks.

Was this quote mid-late in the war?

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Lol it was dated my b

A simple Wikipedia search says the Thule society was dissolved before 1930

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Christianity is kiked, Jesus was a literal ethnic Jew who preached an alien egalitarian religion, as are all individuals from the Levant, since the only Aryans ever to settle in the region that we are aware of were the Phillistines (spoke a non-semitic language, were likely of early Greek/Aegean Balkan descent or part of the "sea peoples), the Mittani who were an Indo-Aryan elite ruling over Assyria, and the Hittites from Anatolia. All of this is backed by genetic/linguistic/archaeological/anthropological evidence mind you, so feel free to check it out yourself.

Anyway, back to the point. Hitler's Germany was, along with Mussolini's Italy, one of the only organic states to exist, and had a society that was in harmony with Universal Order and cosmic law. National Socialism is a solar tradition, not lunar like communism or Christianity, and is inherently Aryan. They were, for all intents and purposes, the "good guys" for our race, and our last hope for forming our own state free of judeo-christian influence.

Regarding the esotericism in the Reich, it was entirely rooted in aryanism, an esoteric and occult "worship"/reverence of our ancient ancestors, the Proto-Indo-Europeans and their Indo-European descendants (also commonly referred to as "Aryans", from the Iranian word meaning "Noble", a term of reverence regarding our ancestors and their superiority to other races, as demonstrated by their conquest of Eurasia from Iberia to China). It is not "evil", nor is it Jewish occultism like LaVey's Jewish satanism. It had nothing to do with "devil worship", since the devil is a Jewish concept, and had no place in the Reich, nor did YHWH, the Abrahamic "god". Hitler didn't speak out against Christianity publicly for one reason, that reason being that many Germans were Christian and therefore he'd have to have been insane to come out against it before mobilizing an army or while trying to fight the war, and probably was gonna dechristianize Germany postwar.

Occult to the max

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They "dissolved" in the sense that they left the public eye and became unofficial, but many of it's members/fans were higher ups in the Reich, and they had massive influence on Himmler and, to a lesser degree, Hitler. The SS in some ways could be considered a militant wing/revival of the Thule Society, given that their beliefs were rooted in the Thule Society's beliefs/philosophy.

Fascism was just the Catholic Church taking back Europe from the Freemasonic Jews, get a fucking clue pal

Ahahahhaha you've got to be kidding me, right? Any basic search of Lionel Nathan Rothschild reveals this image to be entirely untrue. Nice hiding under a meme flag, faggot. Your poorly done smear piece on Hitler in the form of a retarded infographic isn't fooling anyone. Leave the thread, kike.

he was financed by the rothschilds but when he came to power he cut all ties with him. They didn’t even have a traditional currency. They have reichmarks. Basically certificates of labor exchangeable for goods and services, which worked really well.

>Telling a literal fascist to get a clue
Epic.

Regarding your absurd claim, read literally any Fascist's work. Only reason Italian and Eastern European fascism allowed the Catholic Church to be included was due to the fact that a fascist state is an organic extension of it's people, and the people in these states, specifically the people that fascist leaders appealed to, were by and large Catholic. Read any Evola or Devi and see how wrong and stupid what you just said was. Christianity is inherently opposed to the whole might is right mindset that Fascism champions. What's next, you're gonna tell me Fascism isn't racialist or elitist and then misquote some cherrypicked Mussolini quotes to prove your point?

And c'mon, bucko, "freemasonic Jews"? Really? The Freemasons were formed in Scotland/England, places with little to no jewry. Kikes should be hated for what they are, you don't need to accuse them of being behind conspiracies to hate them, they did plenty of actually empirically proveable terrible shit to make them worthy of total extermination. Their Usury, combined with their involvement in communism, leftism, abstraction of Aryan culture, and democracy are more than solid grounds for hating them.

Masonry is the kaballah, and they had been let back in by Cromwell who allowed them to take over the British Empire and spread Jewry world wide. How are you talking shit without knowing this?

Tired ass d and c fag
Literally no one read past the first few words

Muh nazi flag
Kys

You read that stupid shit?

That claim is also untrue LMAO. Again, one Google search into the topic makes that abundantly clear.

Did Hitler get his wealth from Jews? Yeah, in fact he did. Wanna know how? He got it from liquidating the Jewish population in Europe and taking their hoarded wealth which Jewish families had from centuries of banking, moneylending, artisanal craftsmanship, and other higher up occupations, and using it to fund his war effort. These smears are just getting sloppy now. Try harder next time.

You seem to be pretty knowledgeable. Do you have any links where I can learn more? Specifically about Hitler and the occult.

Not divide and conquer whatsoever. Why anyone believes that a semitic desert cult from the Southern Levant is somehow Aryan, despite no Aryans being from that region and the languages spoken by the people in the bible (Aramean, Hebrew) being semitic, is beyond me.

Ancient Aryan culture wasn't egalitarian and didn't preach love and compassion, and instead was based in racialism and had an elitist caste system that favored warriors, shamans, and Kings, whereas Christianity favors the lowest common denominator in society and is egalitarian and universalist/humanist. Anyone can see the difference in NS/Fascism+ culture/religion in Aryan societies and in Christianity, lol.

I should add you don't seem to even realize Continental Masonry is a thing and that the Nazis and Italians shut down all Masonic lodges. I mean did you even read Mein Kampf

>The general pacifistic paralysis of the national instinct of self-preservation begun by Freemasonry is then transmitted to the masses of society by the Jewish Press

I guess proving you wrong is "cherry picking"? Go back to your secret society of ass fucking jews and pretending you're fascist.

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Well, assuming you first have read Mein Kampf, you'll wanna move on to "The Lightning and the Sun by Savitri Devi", "Revolt against the Modern World" by Evola, "Ride the Tiger" by Evola, and some of Serrano's work (my one criticism of Serrano is his desperate attempts at larping as a Christian and trying to make Christianity seem aryan). The Bhagavad Gita and the Rigveda are also important in understanding Hitler and the Thule Society's occultist beliefs.

>Inb4 those are shitskin religious texts, since anyone with half a brain is familiar that Indo-Aryans brought the Vedic religion which later became known as Hinduism to India, and is familiar with the Rigveda's racialist overtones and the fact that Indra literally desires to kill individuals with swarthy skin.

Jews didn't found the fucking Freemasons, and are an entirely independent entity. Even if Hitler's ill informed accusations were true, that's literally only showing that one time a group of kikes worked with the Masons.

Both freemasons and kikes are worthy of death regardless of their collaboration or lack thereof with one another, and treating Mein Kampf like a bible while claiming to be NS/Fascist is larper tier, it's a different time, place, and situation than 1920-1930's Germany, and Hitler, although an amazing man against time, wasn't entirely infallible, otherwise we wouldn't be in the situation we are in now, would we, genius?

>1 post by this ID
>memeflag
>smearing the Führer with lies

Yep this is a kike alright

Forgot one:
>filename

Probably posted by an alt-kike faggot desu.

"Muh Hitler ruined nationalism. H-he wasn't a real leader, unlike Richard Spencer, Trump, and Jared Taylor! The Putsch was nothing compared to Charlottesville! American Nationalism for the win, 2 terms 2 world wars 2 genders" *tips fedora*

Anymore info on ilu lehre? It's hard to find information in English, and I've never heard of it before.

Swastika is a symbol of peace, pre-dates written history and comes from the Big Dipper and Polaris. Nazi's supposedly visited the otherside of the world, meaning the land beyond the poles, and mapped it. I'm pretty sure Hitler was going after (((them))) but don't quote me on that, of course Many other jews were collator damage.

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Ok. Thanks.

From what you said it sounds like there wasn’t much Christianity involved in the core beliefs of national socialism. I find that strange, since the Jews hated him so much, one can only think that he was doing God’s work and was the polar opposite of the Jew in every way, hence Christian. But maybe that is why he failed.

I believe the only way to stop the Jews is with true Christianity, which in the 21st century I believe should be a mix of traditional Christianity and new age doctrine. Not the kike Christianity we have today or the religious dogma meant to control people. Something much different, yet still is in line with scripture. Basically, I think that a 21st century version of Christianity that incorporates science and new age beliefs will defeat the Jews. Any thoughts?

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Nazi Germany was a puppet state created by the same luciferian globalist that runs current affairs in 2018. The alt right is the victim of the same tactics used to polarize their target demographic by the same perpetrators, Kek/Pepe is their symbol/diety that was coopted into the movement

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>Anyway, back to the point. Hitler's Germany was, along with Mussolini's Italy, one of the only organic states to exist, and had a society that was in harmony with Universal Order and cosmic law.
Lolololol. You faggot.

As far as Hitler, it was the Thule Society, a puppet organization itself ala freemasonry, that influenced and placed him into prominence. From the image, you can see the same black sun imagery the swastika was inspired from

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Hitler and his gang were Ancient Aliens

National Socialism is a philosophical/political worldview and an expression of Universal Order. A fundamental aspect of Universal Order is cosmic law/natural law/Dharma, or in more simple terms, "might is right", the rule found in nature.

What I think you're missing is that Christianity in any form, Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism, Mormonism, Protestantism, or any revisionist fringe sect of Christianity (all forms of Christian Identitarianism) are inherently opposed to Cosmic Law and are an affront to Dharma. You need to realize, although Universal Order is most simply "the way things are" in the Universe, cosmic law is inherently anti-egalitarian, and National Socialism is only for Aryans, and thus any belief held by a National Socialist must be entirely Aryan in nature.

The above paragraph is where you seem to be encountering a disconnect that I often encounter in Christians that desire to call themselves National Socialist. Christianity and all other Abrahamic religions aren't Aryan in origin. They're from a region of the world filled with nonewhites, specifically semitic peoples, which include Jews (the ethnic group inhabiting the region of modern day Israel, previously divided into Judea, Edom, Israel, and some smaller kingdoms), Palestinians, Arabs, the Lebanese, Jordanian, Marsh Arabs, Iraqis, etc. It is individuals of this racial category that came up with the Christian, Jewish, and Muslim religions, thus making them foreign to our race. The thought processes and mindsets of these peoples shaped Abrahamic religions, and therefore they are inherently semitic, not Aryan. Our religions, on the other hand, have always been a reflection of the "might is right mindset", and this is evident in ancient Aryan cultures which had entirely different morals than semites that followed Abrahamic religions. The Rigveda, for example, is a mythologized account of a historical event, the Aryan conquest of India via the use of the chariot, an Aryan invention.

Is this "Muh holocaust" Frenchie in disguise?

Jesus himself was racially nonewhite, as were the apostles, and Christianity was pushed on our race at first through Jewish subversion of Rome via conversion of figures in Rome's government. Due to Rome's military prowess at the time of the legal adoption of Christianity by the Roman government, it was then able to force the religion on whites in the rest of Europe, not realizing the dishonest means by which the racially Jewish original Christians had used in subverting the Roman government.

The "scripture" was written by semites, not Aryans.

What I think people like you fail to comprehend is the routes of Aryan migration and, on a more basic level, who is/was is/isn't white/Aryan/Indo European. Familiarize yourself with the Kurgan Hypothesis/Anatolian hypothesis of proto-Indo-European origins, it'll greatly bolster your understanding. Race is all genetic, not geographic or phenotypic, which is why biblical descriptions of "paler" figures often leads to a horribly false assumption that these individuals were Aryan, which is untrue. Plenty of non-whites have white/pale skin, like Assyrians, Lebanese, Jews, Sami, Basques, etc... Doesn't make them part of our race.

Says the Aussie-abbo mutt

Hitler was an occultist, yes, although Himmler's occultism is far more widely known.

Modern day occultists who've have evoked Hitler's spirit say he's currently an "ascended master", a person spiritually developed enough to escape the cycle of reincarnation and maintain an existence akin to a deity or demon, which is only possible through practicing magick.

> If he was involved in the occult, was it evil? Like, blood rituals, child sacrifice, and pedophilia?

That's not what the occult is all about. Yes, some occultists may do those things, but they are in no way central to "the occult" as a whole like SRA proponents seem to think.

You have people who abuse kids as a kind of sex magick, but pedophilia is no more inherent to sex magick than it is inherent to sex in general. There are gods and demons which actually loathe this sort of thing and go out of their way to ruin magicians who engage in it.

You also obviously have people who, mostly historically, engaged in human sacrifice, including that of children, but this is just an extension of the idea of giving offerings generally. When you ask an entity to give you a something, it follows you something in return. Obviously, an entire human life has been considered by most cultures throughout history as the most significant thing possible to give, many saw it as justified, others not. Few if any modern day western occultists actually practice human sacrifice (those who advocate it are probably all bluster), which about says it for its supposed centrality to occultism.

The issue lies in the fact that people have, largely through misunderstanding and propaganda, conflated Jewish LaVeyan/Church of Satan nonsense with any and all forms of occultism, hense the connotation of evil. Shame, glad you were able to clarify it for those people who have fallen for that trap.

Since you sound very knowledgeable and are willing to make long posts, I won’t waste your time with stupid responses. I just want to know what you think.

What are your core beliefs?
Are you religious? Spiritual?
What are your ideas about saving humanity and or the white race?
What political system of government do you believe should be instituted in the US and in other countries?
Who are your favorite historical figures?

If you took a jewish child and raised it in germany the same way a german parent would raise its child, it would end up the same as any other german child. It would only look a bit different, if at all. That's why race is a social construct.

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>assuming xy is why z is not a thing

>Hitler was an occultist
>what is Aktion Hess
>what is Hitler calling Himmer's Occultism "nonsense"

Hitler wasn't an Occultist, in fact he was quite decisively against it. "Occultists" "Neo-Pagans" Esoterists" etc they're all blights on true National Socialism.

There it is, the dumbest thing I'll read all day

Only a burger education could produce such a post

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

It was just some Hindu/ancient Aryan/Germanic pagan shit. And even then it proabbaly didn’t matter all that much to Hitler. He was more focused on results.

>beyond the poles
Within. Agartha. Richard Byrd described it as "flying into the Earth." The frigid north gave way to lush green and warmth. There are other entrances as well, one being in the South poles. Another in Tibet... Now who went to Tibet around 1938-1939?

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LOL we are defeating you love wins always nazis

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>Germany was debt free

Wow..


There’s mostly misinformation spreading to prevent real education since the winners plan on staying in power

what's up? afraid of the brown future nazi

Look, a white woman finally enjoys the fruits of diversity
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ah, you are to triggered to even watch
nazi snowflake

Egalitarian and fagpilled

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Btw regarding Vril Society most of their stuff is real. however keep in mind there is disinformation such as maria orsic pictures

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this book outlines how jews are involved in the blood libel cases, written by a jew himself who basically says fuck the ADL

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The confluence of Jewish Talmudism and the mythos of vampirism, and how it relates to both pedogate and the world we live in.

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A sneak peak at Miguel Serranos work

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Don't Understand Astrology? this should help

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>assuming you first have read Mein Kampf
got a link to the official NSDAP English version?

>official NSDAP English version
there u go

archive.org/details/GottfriedFeder_TheProgramOfTheNSDAP/page/n1

thanks

I also noticed you guys are talking about christianity. As far as the occult goes in christian circles you may find this interesting.

Jesus the Sorcerer

sabbatsandsabbaths.com/2015/06/15/jesus-and-his-wand-in-chrisitan-art/

biblejunkies.com/2014/06/magic-wands-in-early-christian-art.html

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occult just means hidden knowledge not demonic. the nazi's believed that lost information from the ancient golden era was important to creating their dream society. They sought to combine ancient knowledge with modern technology it makes sense to me the world didn't start when jesus was born people have been around for millions of years seems foolish to limit yourself to the last 2,000

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Hitler was so great becaus3 he wasnt christian...
And just judging by all the symbolism. The whole NSDAP guys went into a pagan direction.

Are there any documents about the religion nazi's were trying to create?

Non-christian folkish statism. It's evident in everything you see relating to the third reich. The whole thing was a religious expression. It's so complex and ostentatious that you can miss that the national socialist revolution was actually the institution of a folkish/statist religion

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Most German Pagans were Wotanists and then you had Irminism: "The Forgotten Faith" which Karl Maria Wiligut adopted (He was considered Himmler's go to guy when it came to the occult)

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Himmler took on full responsibility of what happened to the few ~287,000. Hitler signed the Haavara Agreement (transfer agreement) and didn't want jews to be killed by safely transferring approximately 60,000 German Jews to Palestine in 1933–1939. Hitler wasn't aware of what Himmler was doing to the jews in his possession. (This doesn't include prisoners who died from insufficient supplies due to a war-torn germany)

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Understand the holohoax psyop and what jews have done to the West post-WW2.

Read through this thread, it's all there...

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Redpilling normies is the ONLY battle that matters now. Redpill them and the rest will work itself out.

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>Anything occult that doesn’t have some kind of Christian foundation seems pretty sketchy to me

I suggest you abandon it.

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Aaron makes some really excellent content if you haven't checked out his work already

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Op is retarded. The German people weren't happy.
He didn't do anything good.
They suddenly decided to bomb the shit out of Rotterdam where my grandmother from my mother's side and grandfather from my father's side lived. The Dutch didn't do anything wrong to deserve this shit. We weren't even involved with WW1.

mood rn

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