What exactly is the "gun show loophole"?

The "gun show" loophole is the fact that private sellers do not have to run background checks on people they sell their firearms to. In theory this means you can go to a gun show and buy a gun from a private citizen and not have to have a background checks.

In practice the vast majority of guns sold at gun shows are sold by professional dealers with FFL, and they have to background check at a gun show or anywhere else.

It really has nothing to do with gun shows and more to do with the fact that as a private citizen I have the right to sell my property to another private citizen if I so choose.

It's a talking point. Just a myth.

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in 99.9% of anti-gun people never fired a gun or know enough about guns. They think guns are laser and automatic is widely available and handguns are not used for most gun violence

Doesn't she?

yeah, but with the wall engulfing the news, she could get it passed. Thats how our politics work. We become distracted and they sneak shit through.

It's the liberals way of saying "Banning private sales". But they don't want to say that because that kind of rhetoric doesn't exactly fly in this republic.

It's kind of like if you're a communist, but you don't want to call yourself a communist because that would be socially unacceptable, so you think of something you're against, and instead of being a communist you're an anti-facist.

How do you sneak shit through the senate?

I was under the impression it's illegal to sell a firearm without an FFL. Now preventing the sale of private property may be unconstitutional, but you still go to jail or heavily fined if you get caught selling a firearm without an FFL, right?

It happens, it gets attached so some other shit and a little hand faster than the eye technique and boom, it's law.

it doesn't matter who you are or background checks, NOBODY needs an automatic machine gun. but what's a barrel shroud? those things that make them silent?

A myth. You have to have a baclground check and provide id to purchase a firearm, even at gun shows. Steven Crowder did a vid on it.

It really has nothing to do with gun shows, but if your primary income source is not selling guns you are not required to do a background check. If you’re selling shit at gun shows you probably don’t meet that standard and the ATF will ruthlessly fuck your asshole bloody.

What happens more often is someone with a clean record buys a bunch of guns and then transfers or just has them “stolen” by a mass shooter

Maybe for pork spending, but not for the outlawing of weaponry.

By people not paying attention.

You'd think so right? But I've stopped being surprised

Free gun any time you walk into a gun show. Full auto one at that.

>but not for the outlawing of weaponry

and how many people actually knew they were pushing a bump stock ban?
Not enough is how many.

Only if you're found to be repeatedly doing it for the purpose of turning a profit, like a business. I could sell every gun I own and they could do fuck all about it.

If I keep going out and buying them and turn around and sell all of them, that would be reason to investigate.

It's illegal to be in the business of building/selling firearms for profit without being federally licensed. A private individual buying or selling primarily to maintain, enhance, or divest part of all of a collection is entirely legal

it's not the 17th century anymore and you're not gonna hunt a deer with a machine gun! that's just stupid

Depends on the state

>was under the impression it's illegal to sell a firearm without an FFL.
Nope. Not good states anyway, idk about shit ones.

>What exactly is the "gun show loophole"?
>Can anyone with a wallet buy a gun?
Hey rabbi.

Understand the holohoax psyop and what jews have done to the West post-WW2.

Read through this thread, it's all there...

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/193822743/

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Redpilling normies is the ONLY battle that matters now. Redpill them and the rest will work itself out.

kek

I do hate this argument

No its a private sale.

This is like saying we need to close the used car loophole, unsafe cars are being sold on the private seller market so we need a third party car dealer or auto shop to referee them.

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>and how many people actually knew they were pushing a bump stock ban?
snicker. it was covered abundantly on all media. if that took you by surprise you need to get your head out of your ass.

>1994 ban

>.223

>02

What did he mean by this?

Go back to trolling Reddit.

>This is like saying we need to close the used car loophole, unsafe cars are being sold on the private seller market so we need a third party car dealer or auto shop to referee them.
You say that likes its supposed to be ridiculous, but that kind of thing is their plan

Fuck off, kike. Automatic weapons are necessary to lay down suppressive fire.

nah, i'm just fucking with you. the 2nd aint got shit to do with hunting and machine guns have been 'banned' since the 30's

Fuck off, kike. 2A isn't about hunting. Automatic weapons are useful for laying down suppressive fire.

It is illegal to sell firearms as a business without a FFL. It is legal to sell a firearm to a friend, family member, or private citizen you trust as a personal sale.

you don't even have to know or trust them. can sell your gun to a complete stranger

unless maybe it depends on some bullshit city law

I think it's "trust" as in "you're not aware they cannot legally own a gun"

This is why the right can never win, because its a constant loss and negotiations and settling. Oh user this law isnt too bad, think of the children...1 year later....oh user we need just this little extra law....

The right needs to get aggressive and push back in the same way, even if you are just asking for more than you want to negotiatiate to keep much less.

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>What exactly is the "gun show loophole"?
gun grabbers forced-meme rebranding of private individuals selling each other firearms without fedpig oversight and positive approval on every individual transaction. the whole system is very dubiously legal to begin with even as a voluntary system, and undeniably represents an unconstitutionally burdensome infringement in the non-voluntary form it has evolved into.

>Can anyone with a wallet buy a gun?
yes, by the highest law of the land, any 'legal person' can own any 'arm'.

As if you and your 'militia' buddies can suppressive fire your way out of troops loyal to the gubmint. Fukin amatuers.

the 'gunshow loophole' is just a bullshit term somebody made up. at gunshows you'll see a few ppl walking around with guns and a sign offering to see them with a price. that's a private sale and perfectly legal without a background check if the owner doesn't have a pro; liscense.but by far the VAST majority are licensed dealers and must do a background check

Yes you can go to a gunshow and buy a gun with cash.

I am unsure on the implications of individual state laws, but in my homestate, you can buy a gun from a private seller with no background check.

Technically he is supposed to make sure you are the correct age and not a felon. Some do this, many dont, because unless you record the transaction you could never prove he didn’t ask you. Some private sellers will create a bill of sale and have you sign that you arent a felon. As a private seller you are not obligated to check beyond asking.

To be extremely clear I am fine with this arrangement. I have been a private seller at many shows and sold guns on a handshake and exchange of $. This is the way of the white man. I’ve never had a police inquiry on anything I have sold.

Many sellers at gun shows are FFL businesses. These are required to run a NICS. While I have bought firearms from these folks, I usually don’t because they typically sell used guns for close to retail value. They are in a business, have overhead, are trying to maximize profits, etc. I prefer dealing with private folks with more reasonable prices for used hardware, who have more relatable priorities.

I have never seen a gangbanger at a gunshow. The culture wouldn’t tolerate it. The safest feeling in the world is being in a warehouse full of armed white men, who happen to be the friendliest people you could wver meet.

These guys are vets, cops, hunters, war buffs, history buffs, trappers, ranchers, outdoorsmen of many stripe. Their wives are selling homemade cookies. Their kids are selling raffle tickets.

Gun shows aren’t the problem, at least not where I am from.

In order to be a gun vender, you have to have a dealer’s license. When a gun vender sells a gun at his business, whether new or used. he has to run a background check on the purchaser. If a vender sells guns at a gun show, they still have run a background check.

Private party sales do not require a background check. So if your friend needs rent money, he can sell you his AR-15 and you don’t have to run the background check.

If you meet someone at a gun show and say, “Hey I really like your custom AR.” And he says, “Yeah I’ve had it for years. But I’m kinda bored of it,” and you say “I’ll give you $800 for it,” and he sells it to you, no background check required.

That’s the “loophole.” It’s to allow people who don’t sell firearms for a living to sell or gift their firearms they don’t want anymore without having an FFL.

ya maybe or obviously not a 14yr old. prolly just some common sense

VA user here
My local policy office has a section of their parking lot just for private gun sales.
We may be cucked thanks to NoVA, but it's not all bad just yet.

It is a term made up to strip American people of their rights

then why are you so worried about us having them, if we pose no threat?

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We need an amendment that automatically strips citizenship of any legislator who submits an unconstitutional bill.

>that image

He should do what he did with NK. Just claim dems are doing what he wants without them actually doing it the same he did with Kim

Then you have no reason to ban guns. We are no threat to a government (that you hate, fluff zrump) so leave the guns alone, right?

this is correct. the "loophole" is the fact that a bunch of gun-interested people can gather in one place with their guns.
anything professionally organized requires background checks for transfers.
in theory you could hold your own personal gun show with just a bunch of private individuals trading wares. on a federal level, that's totally legal, basically as long as they're not felons, drug addicts or wife beaters.

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You can't buy shit at gunshow that you can't in the regular gun store. There are no private sales without background checks.

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>anything professionally organized requires background checks for transfers.
i meant to say *usually requires*

>I have never seen a gangbanger at a gunshow. The culture wouldn’t tolerate it. The safest feeling in the world is being in a warehouse full of armed white men, who happen to be the friendliest people you could wver meet.
This is the core of the issue. White men still have some cultural trust of each other, and Democrats seek to end it.

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Much to parse here. First off, if you know that you have not a chance at toppling the government, why are you wasting hard earned fiat dollars on a boat anchor?

>NOBODY needs an automatic machine gun
you don't need a computer, or a smartphone or car
every gun law is an infringement

This will die everywhere but in California where her NPC base will blank approve everything she writes.

Eventually all these asinine california gun-AIDS laws will be shut down by republican supreme courts too.

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>why are you wasting hard earned fiat dollars on a boat anchor?
Why's it your business ;)

...

Let's make it a machine gun loophole

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This. Gun shows are for having a look. You'll find the occasional private seller but its mostly dealers from the region. My argument is what's the point of buying a used gun if it has papers?

I've sold and traded guns with people at work. Nothing illegal about itm unless you live in one of those faggot states

I bought a used gun at a gun show. Did a background check. Went to the range to shoot it the next day and the firing pin was broken. Went back to the gun show and swapped it out for another gun from the same vendor and had to do another background check. There is no loophole.

It's the just the leftist being retarded. The "loophole" is a private seller (normal citizen) selling their firearm to another person (normal citizen) and they do the trade like you would on Craigslist or garage sale, no bill of sale or background check is federally mandated but is highly recommended so you don't sell to a felon or dubious person. The seller can ask the buyer to show their id and or ccw our other form of id to run a background check on the seller's dime, but it's not federally mandated.

like this?

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fuck user i was memeing you better delet

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You got yourself into that mess. Now enlighten us with some asspull contradiction that you will use to strip away people's rights. Here I will give you a quick solution: You (as in YOU) must take OUR weapons by force, with YOUR own guns, which you want to ban.
At the end of the day you won't do anything because, we are people with guns.

Shes a Chinese operative with jew cizitenship

What is the ATF going to do? Hard to do anything during a government shutdown.

Fuck dude you'll melt that Mini-14 in 300 rounds.

More like this

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>What is the ATF going to do?
Shoot your dog

>implying they aren't browsing Jow Forums and Jow Forums all day while they're off taking notes for when they go back
you're right though they don't give a fuck about the shoestring mod.

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Alcohol
Tobacco
Firearms

Should be a convenience store not a government agency

>"assault."
>"military-style."

words like this make me angry. they know that shit does not mean anything.

Or anything for that matter.
Far too many people thinking and doing stuff.

ATF
Your one stop shop for all the fun stuff!

Didn't commiefornia or another shithole make it a law that if you want to lend a weapon to a friend, you two have to go to a licensed FFL dealer, hand the weapon to them, then they hand it to your friend

like others have said, you cant do it for your main income.

also some states have a limit on private sales, say after five, its considered a business and you need to be an ffl holder.

checkin these
looks like this thread could actually be going someplace

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I've not mandated anything. I am simply pointing out the absolute vapidity of anyone attempting to justify ownership with the 'immagunnaoverthrowdemtryranniculls' canard. Here is the reality behind the 2A. At the time it was written, there was a huge debate going on about just how much money the Fed should be allowed to get it's hands on. Those for limited gubmint, did not want a standing army. In order to have a way to keep the Union alive, however, an armed force was not an option. How to reconcile? AHHHHHH! Make the fuking plebes pay for thier armaments and uniforms etc. Iffin you knew your history, the founders were not all that trusting of the rabble. THat is why only white men with landholdings of a certain size were given the right to vote. So, in the end, the 2A is not the right you think it is.

fpbp

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>What exactly is the "gun show loophole"?

freedom of association

Cool - my AR has everyone of those banned features.

>just this little extra law....
So much this.

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>detachable magazine
What the fuck is a detachable magazine? If it a gun with the magazine welded on? What are you supposed to do when your gun runs out of bullets? Buy a new gun?
>pistol grip
What even. How are you supposed to hold the weapon properly without a grip?
>threaded barrel
So guns are only allowed to be smooth bore now?
>telescoping stock
Why would this be a banable offense? I didn't realize we were all supposed to have the same arm length.

I'd ask if she even thought about this or even knows a single damn thing about guns, but since she's a democrat we already know the answer

What??

kek nice effort but you reek of nogunz

>What the fuck is a detachable magazine? If it a gun with the magazine welded on? What are you supposed to do when your gun runs out of bullets? Buy a new gun?
You're supposed to load them by jamming them down through the chamber into the mag. Basically forces slow, manual reloading every time

>a threaded barrel

im no gun guru but dont all guns have a threaded barrel.

You just have to buy from an individual. It's easy - I can get on armslist and get anything I want with cash. Individuals are at gun shows selling.

No it's referring to the end of the barrel where the muzzle device would go. Allows for the use of a suppressor.

>a threaded barrel
threaded barrels mean the end of the barrel is threaded on the exterior to be able to attach a suppressor