Strike and Mike

>Welcome to Episode 46 of STRIKE and MIKE! On today's show Strike and Mike discuss the history of Fascism and National Socialism as seen through the lens of Stanley Payne's book, as well as Tuckah staking out a third position, Trump and Gavin McInnes's lawn troubles.

So what did you guys think of today's episode?

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Phoneposting like a fag, or I'd share. Maybe another kind user will post it here so everyone can hear it.

For what it's worth, I told you cunts to shut up about Koninniggers Bitchute channel during the Friday begging threads. Sven got wind of it and SHUT IT DOWN. Way to go, bigmouths.

Nobody? Oh well. Posted the wrong fucking image in the OP probably didn't help. One last bump, and fuck it.

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Just downloaded it, bout to have a cig and listen to it. Is it mostly the book review, or do they expand onto other discussions related to it

bump for right wing media

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bls gib

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Actually haven't listened because I'm assuming it's mostly Tucker's book, and I haven't finished it yet. About 3/4ths of the way through, and it's probably at least tied with Adios America as the most important political book of the last ten years.

I really can't recommend Ship of Fools highly enough. It's up on Libgen if anyone's interested.

It's worth a read, eh? I would have bought a physical copy if it weren't such an ugly cover.

I like Striker but the guy is almost certainly closeted gay/bisexual.
Whenever he talks about gays he gets so passionate and wants to describe in detail the sex acts they engage in. Also he once called JF "cute" on heel turn lol.
He really likes Yukio Mishima so I guess it makes sense.
Although, there are a lot of right wing gay/bi men who are pretty okay, like Douglas P. of Death in June, Millennial Woes, and the aforementioned Mishima so it's not such a big deal to me.

he described george orwell earlier tonight as "sargonian" because its anti authoritarian

i think a lot of that freud stuff is bullshit, but maybe he likes to dominate dudes

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1984*

Yeah, the cover looks like a bad Rolling Stone cartoon, and I stopped buying physical copies when big retailers pushed all the comfy mom and pop joints out of the picture. When Hastings went out of business, that was the last straw.

Now I've got a kindle and get everything for free off b-ok or libgen. Torrdroid is good for rarer titles like Redneck Manifesto or Matthew Stokoe's demented bullshit. I'll be damned if I buy a book from Amazon or Barnes and Noble. But yeah, Tucker's book is great. I'm up to Chapter 6 (Elites Invade the Bedroom) and so far he's just cracking on miserable dyke cat lady feminists. Sometimes nonfiction can be a bit of a chore for me, but this book is outstanding. I'd probably be finished by now, but I keep finding myself reading it in Tucker's voice and cadence.

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If we are going to shameless shill youtubers on half the threads, can we at least give JFG some love?

The only thing that frenchie retard-fucker is good for is giving /ourguys/ a platform. After he kicked Goad off for saying someone had a big nose, I can't bring myself to watch him anymore. That accent is annoying as fuck, and he rarely has anything useful to add to any conversation. Yeah, fuck that clown.

TRS has really gone downhill.
Really the whole "alt right" (for lack of a better term) has.
Everyone lost their sense of humor.
I hope weev makes more podcasts soon. His was the only good one anymore.

He is on youtube, so he plays by youtube rules. And he is still on youtube. Also it refines his ideas into points that cannot be argued against and can be used in most situations. I have no problem with JFG

They lost all their momentum when they started larping in public and taking themselves seriously. Heilgate ruined the movement and they were too autistic to figure that out.

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Weev is jewish scum. I don't trust Anglin either.

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It wasn't Heilgate though. Everyone became scared after Charlottesville. Otherwise, no one would have went to Charlottesville.

Heilgate was the beginning of the end, it cemented the dedication to neonazi larping and autism irl which ensured the quick destruction of the movement.

He's maybe 1/16. Hardly "jewish scum" if you ask me. I think his record of being publicly anti-jewish speaks for itself. Mainly I like that he didn't lose his sense of humor like 90% of "alt-righters" seem to have post-Cville.
I've never been a fan of Anglin and DS has gone down in quality quite a bit, but I don't think he's a bad guy.

>Well you see, CAPITALISM
t. Eric Striker

Nazbols are always closet faggots

The movement was ruined when we let absolute lolcows like Chris "crying nazi" Cantwell, Richard "totally heterosexual" Spencer, and Matthew "motherfucker" Heimbach assume leadership positions.

>Heilgate was the beginning of the end.
So dramatic. I can assure you the whole movement will be revitalized when the whole GOP crashes with no survivors very soon. Haha.

I used to like weev, and he's a fantastic writer, but I don't trust that guy at all. The 'alt-Right' fractured primarily as a result of that bullshit optics debate started by him and that Vaughn fag. It irritates the shit out of me when people call everyone in the movement they dislike a fed or a kike, but the fact that a manlet with a swastika tattoo that penned pic related is suddenly concerneded about optics is laughable at best and suspicious, disingenuous, and subversive as fuck at worst.

Agree to disagree. He's not still on jewtube because he "plays by the rules", he's there because he's yet to attract enough attention to get shut down. He'll, Red Ice just got another strike, and they bleep the fucking word "Jew".

If they want him gone, he'll be gone no matter how subservient he is to the ToS. I do appreciate him giving some of our people a platform, but I personally just find him irritating.

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Do you even know what weev looks like? No way is he just 1/16th jew. He is Larry David looking levels of jew.

Striker needs to be unleashed on the normies

Well yes that was another cause and don't forget it was Mike Enoch and TRS that demanded their listeners to send thousands of dollars to Cantwell so he could buy more meth, cry on the internet, and be a federal informant. What an absolute dumpster fire. It was also Mike Enoch that supported Heimbach and the Larp brigade up until the very end.

There won't be a recovery for the altright simply because the brand is ruined forever by portraying themselves as neonazis. Any new nationalist movement will have to be totally separate from those morons. We need a white nationalist movement with no appeals to Nazism.

>We need a white nationalist movement with no appeals to Nazism.
No. Fuck that. No more disavowals. No more disavowing the worst among us. Niggers don't disavow the worst amongst them and neither do Jews.

Hail Roof.
Hail Brevik.
Hail Hitler.
And fuck you.

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help us living in a shack using a gov phone for Jow Forums folks pls

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So the Heimbach shit came to an ignominious end with the cuckbox shit, but I didn't really get the hate. Antifa is out there in masks hitting people with blunt objects and throwing piss on them just for going to right wing rallies. They do it to people at Trump rallies. I saw it up close when he came to Albuquerque. Some guy spit on a woman carrying a baby and I popped him in the face. Does that make me a 'wignat' or a 'larper'? What's wrong with having men who are unafraid to stand up to these pussies protecting people who can't fend for themselves? I don't get the hate.

As for Cantwell, he's obviously a goofball in the 'no publicity is bad publicity' camp, but he still puts out a pretty funny show. Why does everything have to be uniform? I don't understand the desire for everyone to be automatons in lockstep with one another. I thought the whole point of the NPC meme was essentially making fun of the good goyim on the other side for doing exactly that.

It's the cuckservative instinct to try amd please your enemies. They are never gonna not call you nazis, and if you have to adopt leftist morality to skirt their attacks what's the point anymore?

>I don't want to be any better than niggers and jews
kys retard
>antifa is worse so we should tolerate when our guys act like retards
>It's the cuckservative instinct to try amd please your enemies. They are never gonna not call you nazis
I'm pretty sure a being drug addicted faggot and doing retard rallies is precisely what our enemies want us to do.
The left loved Charlottesville. The left love the autistic antics of people like Cantwell. It provides ammunition to them that they use to this day. All your autistic shit does is give them ammunition to use against us.
>They are never gonna not call you nazis
The people who call us nazis are not the ones who we are trying to appeal to. It's the normal people who now see us as a movement of autistic clowns.

We're not better than niggers or jews because they're winning you fucking idiot.

And how the fuck are they winning? They're winning because of their high in-group preference. High in-group preference = No disavowal of the worst of their own people. Getting a group of people to disavow their worst is the first step in dividing that group of people.

t. tard larper

You already failed in embarrassing fashion the fat larp squad accomplished nothing aside from discrediting itself.

We already know the leftist strategy and we know that they can get away with violence because they own the system. We know the media will always portray them in a positive light and show the ugliest fattest larpers on our side. An intelligent strategy is to not play into their hands. To win you have to be smart you can't march around like a retard waving swastikas and sieg heiling like you have a room temperature IQ.

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Haha you'rer still stuck in the past, like every cuckservative you think just dressing up amd saying you love America and the left are "the real racists". Also it litterally doesn't matter what you look like because Jews control the flow of information, they can make you look however they want and nobody can stop them.

No you idiot the left is winning because they control the media, academia, wall street, the government, etc they control all the instiutions and can turn the entire state against any right wing movement at a moments notice.

Antifa is not the reason they win anything, the left won DECADES AGO when they took over all the political and social institutions, do the smart thing and take those institutions back. Don't prance around like a fucking idiot neonazi larper. Use your brain for fuck's sake.

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This, white people (especially conservatives) are huge cowards socially, they won't hesitate to sacrfice one of their own to mantain appearances which just serves to weaken them in the long run. Look at niggers and Jews they NEVER disavow, worst they get is angry white people saying they should feel bad about it, mean while they contiune dominating the discussion.

lmao, you aren't taking anything back dude. They infiltrated them and dilled them with our racial enemies. They also know on an instinctual level how to avoid being subverted because they themselves did this to get power.

Most white people are smart enough to know that the entire system is against them and they will be overwhelmingly punished for not mouthing a pro white genocide doctrine.

Most Negroids and jews know that they are favored by the system and can get away with just about anything. That is the difference. To take back the country you have to take back the institutions.

Idiots larp, real radicals cut their hair and go to college. That's how the left won. Infiltrate and subvert.

You aren't taking back anything by larping in public, you just look like an idiot while losing in an embarrassing fashion.

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I haven't listened yet. They do so much content its hard to keep up with them sometimes. Loving everything that they do

btw the larpers, neonazis, and wignats have been failing for 60+ years. While they were larping in the streets the left was taking over the country in a 90% white nation turning it into a 56% a falling shithole.

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You're still stuck in the past, the left won because when they infiltrated that had never been done before. Now they control the whole system top to bottom and the reason they can't be subverted is because they have a zero tolerance policy and know what to look out for. The system is gonna have to collapse before it can be retaken.

Anyone read ship of fools? I was considering buying it, but I can't decide whether it or that J.D. Vance doodz "hillbillies" book.

I have had ISPs cancel my service for my moderate to far right views. Some that didn't cancel put me on lists, put filters on the cable line coming from the telephone pole, or flat out gave me a fake version of the web in which my outward communications only appeared to me and not on the real internet.

>a street larper saying someone else is living in the past

You realize that mass street action was only ever feasible in a time when the west lived in high density urban industrial setting where mobs of working class could be mobilized for political action right? That's not possible in the modern deindustrialized atomized suburban sprawl.

Infiltration and subversion of the system, dissemination of information through unfiltered media is the only option and it was actually working fairly well UNTIL the street larpers ruined everything.

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>you can't march around like a retard waving swastikas
I saw exactly one person flying a swastika in C-Ville. Curiously, he seemed to be the only person at the whole fucking thing that didn't get doxxed or attacked.

I'd be willing to concede the rest of your point if you had a viable alternative. Letting women and old men and even just scrawny, non-violent types on our side be assaulted with impunity doesn't sit right with me. Should they just stay home and not show support for a democratically elected president or some alt-light gatekeeper whose ideas line up with their own? What would you have us do?

> I have had ISPs cancel my service for my moderate to far right views.
Wtf, I've never heard of such a thing. Citation f'ing needed. Are you sure you're not crazy?

Goddamnit you're fucking dumb. You can't even comprehend what I wrote let alone even address it properly.

How did they acquire all of that institutional power then?
>high in-group preference

I don't give a fuck if Nazi LARPers murder another 10,000 Heather Heyers. I will never disavow you traitorous faggot.

see

Charlottesville was still a signal. A bunch of non-crazy, young white men being /white/. It was a bat-signal, like Trump - "Look, we're out here, there are others like you!"

Though I'm optics cuck enough to wish to God they hadn't gone with their 'Jews!' shit. /That/ makes you look crazy.

Strike an Mike are the best!

I agree that guy was literally a false flag but then no one stopped him. Every single article on Cville has a picture of that guy with a Nazi flag every single article used that picture to say it was a Neo-Nazi rally. It was supposed to be a rally supporting the Confederate monuments but the obsession with larping made it about Nazism which is already a losing side to take. The rally was a total failure

>protecting people supporting the president in public

Yeah that would be fine but then due to association with the larping neonazi rallies even those got taken down. Any street larping neonazi stuff becomes a lightning rod for bad press and legal crackdowns that should have been obvious from the beginning. The enemies control the system people need to be smarter and more subversive.

It’s really good

High in group preference doesn't matter when the system can throw you in jail, blacklist you, take all your money, ruin your social life, etc.

Only controlling the political system matters and you will not be allowed to just waltz in you need to be subversive and be smart, no larping around in public no being a retard and getting thrown in jail.

Charlottesville was a symbol that the right has no fucking clue what it is doing or how to accomplish anything

>be more subversive!

You need to be more specific.

You're wrong. High in-group preference is the only thing that matters as jews have fucking proved over and over again for thousands of years. Also, there are many whites in the system and whites outnumber everyone else. There are no excuses.

This might be true. They forgot the first rule of jews and the CIA. Always take over the media first before all else. Otherwise, we'll have to battle armies of brainwashed boomers.

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You have to spread your ideas in ways the left can't detect or interpret. You have to gain social and political power without the left noticing. You have to influence society and educate the youth under the noses without them being able to stop it or even figure out what us happening. Deception is the art of war. Declaring yourself a Nazi and marching around is the idiot's strategy.

High in group preference isn't going to get you out of jail for committing "hate speech"class butfiltrating and subverting the system so it supports you will. You have such myopia you don't understand what is even at issue here. We can't even operate openly in the current system.

Exactly this. Whenever the CIA wants to enact a coup in a country the first strategy is to infiltrate and subvert the national media. Second step is subverting the bureacrats in the national government.

A rough chronology of wignat fiascos
Or maybe you're too low IQ to see what weev is doing (and has been doing for decades now). This type of paranoia is why wignats will never do anything other than ruin the lives of people not quite as right wing as them.

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Go back and read what I'm really saying. And think about it for a while.

Basically, Tucker Carlson.

Collective action necessitates some in group preference, but that's not sufficient for fixing our current crisis. You also need to be smart and subversive not a loud larping idiot.

When I say "take over the media" in this context, that is simply not possible in the US. It means creating new right wing media institutions to push a new radical message to the masses. The Alt-Right needed to lay the mental ground work among a critical mass of white people before hitting the streets. They didn't do that and that's why it went bad. But they're doing that now.

I think that the problem some people have with the whole 'subvert the GOP, institute change from within the system' narrative is that it would take decades (likely several generations) to accomplish, and by that time America as we know it will cease to exist.

Whites will be a minority in this country in another 20 years. I live in New Mexico where we're already a minority, and this place is a microcosm of where the country is headed. We rank dead last or bottom five in just about every metric that measures standard of living: education, poverty, property crime, etc. The only thing we may be number one in is methadone clinics per capita, and our Democratic politicians don't give a fuck, because welfare and wetbacks ensures that they will remain in control in perpetuity. This is the future of the entire United States, and it's right around the corner.

In a perfect world, your suggestion would be ideal. We just don't have time. Texas and Florida will be blue in another ten years, and when that happens, we will likely never see another Republican president. I'm not totally on board with the accelerationists pushing for societal collapse and civil war, but frankly I'm not sold that your idea is that much better. Think of how they treat White people now when we are 62% of the country. How do you think they'll treat us when that number goes down to 40%?

Yeah well, call us naive for believing the rule of law, the right to assemble, and free speech and sheeit.

Consider this: The ACLU went overboard to enable the legality of the rally last minute. This was to ensure the planned trap be sprung. This was a setup involving AT LEAST Kessler. Also if the rally had been allowed to go as planned, it would have emboldened loads more sympathetic white people. Cville was a way to nip it in the bud. If this rally had been succesful, the next one would have been a lot bigger, hence the need to squash the movement preemptively. Street action like this is a great way to show strength to pull more people in, but as this case showed, it’s a double edged sword. We were fucked by the CIA or someone similar. The actions by the ACLU “confirms” this and could probably be confirmed by a well placed hack or phishing expedition aimed at key people at the ACLU.

Oh God - you're not Lauritz, are you? I sure hope not. Paranoiacs everywhere.

I'm not saying anyone should go out into the streets and LARP as a nazi. I'm simply saying NEVER DISAVOW the guys that do.

Yeah

No other strategy can work government is the monopoly on force and the situation cannot be solved without political force (the government) passing laws. A white nationalist government if put into place could clean up the country in a few years.

Demographic correction is possible through deportation of non-whites. Eisenhower deported millions in a few months.

The left doesn't believe in any of those rights especially if you are on the right.

Not Lauritz, no. Just look at the cases they usually take. How often do they drop everything in their hands to help the far right? This anomaly, while not definitive proof, warrants suspicion. Kessler’s background seems a bit shady too IIRC.

Im to the diversity diversion section? Is it as bad as I think it is? I read the first couple of pages and it just annoys me from a race realist point of view.

Side note he called Franz Ferdinand a second rate nobleman which is just stupid imo.

I guess that's possible. But the gains from street action are basically nill white nationalism got big through unfiltered online dissemination not through irl neonazi larping. What was the point of such risks for so little gain? America isn't Europe there are no tight knit communities where irl action matters at all

I reserve the right to criticize anyone who I think is acting like a moron. If we don't criticize morons we let them fester.

Then, we'll lose. So go ahead and be self-righteous ego-driven shithead.

Larping or not, the current paradigm struggles to overcome modern far right arguments. Even small oneliners like “access to white people is not a human right” are hard to defeat, so they need to insulate the populace from the debate. Letting huge masses of far right minded people congregate, creates a safe space for the participants and allows the movement to benefit from community building and further entrenchment. There’s a reason they set up this high risk situation to squash it. Like Waco, real life meetups and community is far more potent than just web based exchange of ideas, and the government knows this, hence the brutal responses to these kinds of movements. Exponential growth is easier to accomplish through rl organization

There are a few things that have bothered me about the book (counter-signalling meritocracy comes to mind), but overall I think he's just trying to make his ideas as palatable to as many folks as he can. Casting a wide net, so to speak.

He did an interview on his press tour for the book where he talked about Charles Murray's The Bell Curve and said that as good as it was, Murray should have left out the stuff about race and IQ, because that only served to make the material more contentious. Now was he surreptitiously trying to draw attention to that portion of the book, or did he really believe The Bell Curve would have been better off without It? I'm tempted to go with the former, and I think that's part of Tucker's brilliance.

As for Franz Ferdinand, I'm woefully uninformed. My knowledge of WW1 comes primarily comes from Dan Carlin and James Corbett, so I can't really speak to that. It does seem a bit dismissive considering that Ferdinand's assassination ostensibly started the thing, but I don't really know the whole story.

I thought that too, he might just be covering his ass in a 3d chess type way. By saying things such as how 'muh segregation was evil' he can talk about the rest of the shit he wants to talk about. Fair enough, Ill read it later.

My thing about ferdinand was just that he was a big deal and thats why ww1 started. He wasnt some nobody like he implys.

So have any of you read the Stanley Payne book? Is it good? I've been meaning to buy for quite some time.

Can anyone post the show? I've been a paypig since the paywall went up but I have 4 dollars in my account and I got locked out 3 days ago. Gibs link pls.

Nazi is the new racism. People care less and less about "insults" every day

I'd hardly call being a nigger or Jew "winning"

>that's how the left won
By being Jews?

Yeah, wouldn't wanna make the Yids angry now would we? God forbid a Jew ever shed even a single tear

>larp larp larp larp
How about this: If you're white and outspoken, you're a Nazi. Do you really think theyll stop calling whites Nazis regardless of what is said and done?

Are you saying that the left doesn't notice that Tucker isn't a liberal? I'm pretty sure they've called him Nazi more than once already. The left are ACTIVELY looking to destroy whites. There is no hiding if you're white

His beard and glasses don't help. IDK why he doesn't change his style a bit but he doesn't look jewish he looks like a slav.

shit, meant to reply to

link pls ? for a friend

Having an unfiltered message is far more important than having a group of larpers getting nothing done but exposing themselves to msm manipulation

I'll go ahead and be right while you continue being a larper

You are called a Nazi but your aren't actually a Nazi.

They are calling him a Nazi yes but he isn't one. He's just a nationalist.

Actually come to think of it the beard and glasses might just be a troll bit like Sam Hyde does. In which case I approve.

Was the most influential person trying to appeal to normies Ricky? Because after he got booted off of twitter it really seemed like his ability to make things happen dropped of. Plus the whole disappearing after getting doxed was a bit weak.