Quick lesson

Quick lesson.
The 16th amendment was never ratified. The IRS and the Fed know this.
When you are born the Fed opens an account in YOUR name. All caps. That is the corporate you. Since no living person can open a bank account they make YOU do it.
Your SSN is the account number.
When you file taxes for the first time you are signing a contract agreeing to the arrangement, justifying the illegal action (in their mind) of The income tax.
You have two options.
NEVER file and you never have to.
Or file a dissolution of corporation form 966. This gets rid of your "account" with the Fed. Never file again.
WARNING: This will eliminate and bar you from any federal aid or payments (VA disability for example)
"But we should all pay our taxes!" You might say.
And I agree, pay sales tax, pay for vehicle registration. Buy some lotto if you have kids in public school. Donate to your local police and firefighters if you like.
But 100% of income tax goes to pay the debt on interest the U.S. Govt "owes" the Fed all of it goes to the pockets of the kikes that own the Fed. A privately owned bank. None of it goes to "dem programs"
Free your self from the Fed. God bless and God speed.

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nexusilluminati.blogspot.com/2011/08/meet-your-strawman-you-are-freer-than.html
essence.com/celebrity/wesley-snipes-irs-9-million/
thedailybeast.com/the-crazy-tax-scam-youve-never-heard-of
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irwin_Schiff
youtu.be/9RS3lX7MTS0
youtube.com/watch?v=PBBv6BjWbL8
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odious_debt
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never accept PIG LATIN on any form and demand your name be spelled in proper English

Bump for more sovereign citizen posting. I've got to think theres more to this. I even had a friend get off on a minor charge because he tried to sue the prosecutor for something regarding the city's case against him.

Sovereign citizen is so heavily derided by establishment types, it just seems like theres at least something there

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Bump for freedom

Was hoping to 1 post by this....But damn. Too much furry and scat porn I guess.

Seems similar to:

>nexusilluminati.blogspot.com/2011/08/meet-your-strawman-you-are-freer-than.html

I don't know much about you tax system, but are you saying that the key to not paying personal income tax ever is to never file a return in the first place?
Doesn't sound too plausible, especially with all the nigs that get tangled up for it by not filing their returns when they sign their first nig-ball contract.

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Pretty much. You can't enter someone else into a contract without their consent so you have to make..as it says a "strawman" like an effigy. To place all that on. Most people just go along with it.
Im specifically talking about income tax. However the license bit is also true. Only commercial drivers need a license. He a good boy and don t do nuffin and the police have no reason to stop you.

Most of them have had at least one job. And have filed at least once prior to them getting pinched. That's how they get ya. The "refund"
"Oh goy, lucky you! You worked your first job! And hey! Guess what? Since you were such a good boy and gave us some of that money we are gonna give you back a couple hundred dollars. ..just sign here....here...And here! Good goy! Now go buy some shoes and weed!"
" hand rubbing intensifies Gotcha! "
And then they make millions and the kikes want their cut.
A literal deal with the devil.

I see what you mean, but surely there must be have been someone getting into nig-ball as his first job. And surely some lawyer would have already sniffed out such golden opportunity.
Is there any legal precedent for this? Any success story of someone never paying income tax based on this?

Bump

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It's stupid but you can find documentaries about it.
These guys have a good legal argument, and they are technically correct, but I'm not sure why they believe that a court of law might actually give them the decision.
essence.com/celebrity/wesley-snipes-irs-9-million/

Just like all the people claiming they are sovereign and can't be arrested by the cops. The cops don't care about technicalities in the law they will break actual laws that they do understand, so long as they are sure they can get away with it.

ok retard

Well if never filed..can't really say on those. I've never heard of anyone who has NEVER filed getting hit. Just ones that say "fuck it I aint doing it no more" They get hit because they breached the contract they signed.
I myself hadn't filed in over 2 decades. I'm not poor. And they are aware of me as I filed with the IRS.
I'm not sure on any nigball stars getting snagged. I don't see how they could DESU. Most have managers or team accountants.
But it's just as easy to use it if they start going off the plantation as a punishment or as a way to get out of the contract with them.
Just have their accountant "forget" to file and come up with some b.s. About not working for the nig anymore or that the nig missed a memo or something.

baste and bump

fuck taxes and fuck the law

Good goy.

This conspiracy is decades old and never, not once, has any form of evidence been presented.

Ummm...bullshit.

QRD: Some guy published some books (for profit), claiming all this muh 16 not ratified shit. People bought into it, and he got BTFO by many courts.

source

Fuck off you schizo retard. muh freetard citizen bullshit is labeled as terroristic by DHS....people that associate with this schizo shit go on a list that actually matters. This list is scene everytime a cop pulls you over, you will never get off with a warning, ever again.

People have fought it, and are in jail. Good luck!

Any links to any guides or more info on how to actually go about doing so?

source...?

I'd have to search. But you surely don't think there's a working loophole that hasn't been broadcast far and wide, do you? Ach, I'm not making it up, some guy fought it hard, and lost.

This probably isn't the guy I'm thinking of, but it's /someone/. (I hate when people say they've proven something and tell /you/ to search, so .. but if you're looking for more hardcore tries at it, just keep searching for sovereign citizen taxes, stuff like that. I want to say Peter Schiff's dad was one, but I could be completely wrong.)
thedailybeast.com/the-crazy-tax-scam-youve-never-heard-of

Hah! Wow, was I right!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irwin_Schiff

>The court rejected Schiff's contention on appeal that the First Amendment protects sales of the book, as the court found that the information it contains is fraudulent, as it advertised that it would teach buyers how to legally cease paying federal income taxes.[29]

>Schiff, Neun, and Cohen were barred under the injunction from selling or advertising material advocating nonpayment of tax, from preparing a tax return for others, and from otherwise providing assistance or encouragement to others in violating tax law. Schiff and his associates were additionally required to provide a copy of the injunction to each of their customers, post it on their website, and provide the government with a customer list.[30]

He was banned from writing a book wtf. lmao

That's fishy

>it's a 'am I being detained' episode

Fucking checked. There has to be a way to profit from this

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>When you file taxes for the first time you are signing a contract agreeing to the arrangement, justifying the illegal action (in their mind) of The income tax.
What is a W4 form that you must fill out with your employer because your employer is actually the one who pays your income taxes and payroll taxes for you (and also pays additional taxes on you above what you see on your W2 at the end of the year) before you even see your first dime?
Sovereign Citizens are fucking retards.

This is also the shit that killed Bill Cooper, who advertised the shit on his show and then when the feds came to talk about why he hadn't paid his taxes, he went all "they're coming right for me and my guns because I've been telling the truth" and got shot.

Seems like the premise is correct, but is so pul pit and abstract judges just label it as bs. Technically the guy is correct, but wouldn't be enforced realistically. Could use the information to not ever file an income tax with specific employers if possible to never pay any.

Don't waste your time with sovcit garbage.

Yes, you don't have to pay taxes ever!*

*You are not required to file and will not be pursued under the law if you are a NEET making less than $12k / yr. You are admitting to being a waste of oxygen and public school dollars if you "get away" with never paying taxes for multiple years. Broke people never have to pay taxes in the first place.

He got shot for speaking words? What

He got shot for shooting at the cops, who were not there to sieze his guns or shut him down, but to make him pay his taxes.

Ah I see

Elaborate?

The first time you FILE your taxes. Has nothing to do with your employer.
They don't file your taxes for you do they?

Kek, read a part of it, sounds great but if you don't comply you'll just be arrested. It doesn't matter much whether it's right, moral or even legal when your options are limited to playing within a legal frame you claim not to be a part of. You'll be very right, behind bars, nullifying every difference between the situation sketched in that blog and the situation most people are in.

Do you know what a W4 form is? That form you have to sign when you get hired? That goes to the IRS to "open your account", not your first tax return.

If contracts are written in strawman names... wouldn't changing your name make you cease to exist to previous contracts with the federal government?

Like, change name and change home address

Not unless you close the account first. The ssn.

Only if you don't tell them you changed your name and address, kek

I think he means legalese.
Its law-language where "person" doesnt actually mean person and such like

No court has ever accepted these arguments in american history. The only way to avoid federal income tax is to move to puerto rico.

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I'm no neet. I have plenty to take. I'm not a huge rich star or nothing. But I do well enough. I do voice work. You may have heard my voice. At least tens of millions have. And I'm not a sovereign citezen. I'm just informing people on how to not have to pay the Fed anymore. That's all.
Research my claims. It takes some digging, it's not exactly common knowledge for obvious reasons.

Those cops didn't have the right to force him to talk to them. He removed invaders from his property and did nothing wrong.

He got shot for revealing too much. Anyone who reveals too much ends up dead

The good goys in this thread doe

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The state is unlawful because they fund them selves on debt at the expense of the people by stealing through inflation and purchasing power.

The national fiat currency is created in debt and is therefore ODIOUS:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odious_debt

>When a despotic regime contracts a debt, not for the needs or in the interests of the state, but rather to strengthen itself, to suppress a popular insurrection, etc, this debt is odious for the people of the entire state. This debt does not bind the nation; it is a debt of the regime, a personal debt contracted by the ruler, and consequently it falls with the demise of the regime. The reason why these odious debts cannot attach to the territory of the state is that they do not fulfil one of the conditions determining the lawfulness of State debts, namely that State debts must be incurred, and the proceeds used, for the needs and in the interests of the State. Odious debts, contracted and utilised for purposes which, to the lenders' knowledge, are contrary to the needs and the interests of the nation, are not binding on the nation – when it succeeds in overthrowing the government that contracted them – unless the debt is within the limits of real advantages that these debts might have afforded. The lenders have committed a hostile act against the people, they cannot expect a nation which has freed itself of a despotic regime to assume these odious debts, which are the personal debts of the ruler