I'm going to attempt to actually have a legit political discussion on Jow Forums.
I swear to God this video got raided by NPCs who are acting as if all of Jow Forums's memes were their serious political beliefs. All their strawman arguments are pretty similar; "You're against white supremacy? That must mean you're a globalist that wants open borders and for Somali Islamic extremists to come in!" Could you be any more retarded to seriously make that claim?
There's no two ways about it: what Steve King said was racist. I'll 100% say in public I'm a "Western" supremacist. I believe in individualism, liberty, personal responsibility, and the American way. Those are ideologies, and ideas aren't beholden to a skin color. Anyone can posses them, and so to liken those western values to "white supremacy" is completely racist and misses the entire point of the American dream.
I don't want any Islamist sand niggers in the US. I don't want Commies. I don't want subhuman cartel spics. Cultural relativism is dangerous. But to make the insinuation that only whites can hold the values that makes the west what it is is beyond retarded and racist, and how anyone could seriously deny that is beyond me. King literally made it about race: not about ideology or culture.
Why are cuckservatives chimping out? Let the voters of his district decide, what point is there in virtue signalling? You honestly think leftists give two shits if you hand the scalp of Steve King to them?
Angel Edwards
Piss off kike. King is based, and Shapiro is a fraud trying to gatekeep the alt-light from not wanting to die for Israel.
Jose Perry
>who are acting as if all of Jow Forums's memes were their serious political beliefs le satire may may >muh skeen cola >muh magic soil >muh racism >muh Western values >muh homogenous culture of multi-ethnic people without a tyrannical government
Cultural upbringing and personal ideology means a lot more than that.
Anyways, shut up kike. Virtue signaling suggests there's no problem here. Whether you're actually mad or just want to save face, saying actually racist things is not a good political look for the party. I don't even know what that means. Also, King is a literal nobody as far as government position. The only reason why anyone knows some obscure politician from butt fuck Iowa is because he said questionable shit. But now he went from questionable to outright racist.
Juan Robinson
I dont know if you know this, but Ben Shapiro is a Jew.
Race in the US is very highly-correlated with specific political positions. Blacks, for example, support open-borders policies. Saying "not all X" is irrelevant at the level of mass-trends. Realistically, socio-cultural cohesion depends upon the existence of a dominant ethnic group. This has been true across time and history. We're not special. We're not immune. Ignoring that lesson will ruin us, and perhaps already has.
In other words, convert Shapiro's general arguments into specific claims/premises that would need to be true for those arguments to be useful. Here's one underlying premise that his arguments rely upon:
>"American values" will be maintained even in the absence of American whites
Bullshit. I see no evidence for that. Since his implied premise is garbage, the rest of his arguments are largely useless, since they sidestep the broadest questions about social stability and the nation's fate.
The "founding fathers" that cucks worship so much recognized this; that's why they passed the 1790 Immigration act.
>muh party They called Trump racist every single day and Never Trumpers agreed and condemned him. Why should I give a shit? As I said before, primary him if you want. But let the voters of his district decide.
Benji is over the top when it comes to Isreal often, but that's not a part of the case here. >Dude too lazy to form his own argument calls someone else a faggot And yet people who moved from California to Texas voted for Cruz more than native Texans did. Experience is more important than physical attributes. What's getting mixed up here is that everyone is taking it all or none. I personally want a tough vetting process for new citizens so that we can ensure American ideals stick within them. But to outright say that only whites can be trusted to withhold Western values is blatantly untrue. The modern Democrat party is retarded, but also insinuating that if you don't vote Republican, therefore, you're un-American
Lincoln Ward
Are you a spic?
Easton Brown
thank you to our greatest ally steve (((king))) for bringing white-bashing and white interest-demonizing to the forefront yet again
Joseph Collins
How retarded do you have to be to say "there's nothing wrong with white supremacy" in those words as a fucking congressman? This guy has to be a false flag operative. I refuse to believe someone is so deluded that they would misjudge the overton window that hard.
Lincoln Price
and again, in 2012 newsflash: you can't manage entry to your country based on political beliefs(even if all the legislatures and courts agreed with you, incomers would just lie), and even if you could - their kids(whom they have more of than you) would just gravitate toward the average sentiments of their people this is why central and south america repeatedly flirt with authoritarianism and socialism it's why asians are such a collectivist group and repeatedly vote left-wing despite it not seeming immediately in their interests - even a successful, smart, and polite race will not side with you politically it doesn't fucking matter if "individuals" share your beliefs because democracy is antithetical to individualism - the only thing that matters are numbers, and the world outnumbers us ten to one and does not agree with us at all race is the only useful basis for dividing up nations, and open immigration policies will always flow toward global authoritarian socialism
he's 100% correct and every other race acts under the assumption that they're the best, putting their own interests ahead of any other group's it's a survival strategy and it fucking works only whites think this shit is verboten
why Asians vote 77% for democrats? they have higher income than white people. dont they get hurt by socialist policies the most? I always thought asians hate black & hispanic people.
Asher Reyes
It doesn't matter if he's correct, he's a fucking politician, he's supposed to be persuasive and help his party win. It's the absolute most retarded thing to use the word "white supremacy". If he wanted to push an idea to shift the overton window he should have not used the one word that is basically nuking yourself.
Owen Hernandez
You guessed it. But half. My mom got colonized.
Memes aside, my Tata immigrated here legally. He put in all the work to learn English, learn American history, and learn everything else he needed to know for citizenship. He's never asked for anything from anyone, and especially not from the government for freebies. He's 80 now and the man is still a relentless worker. If he's not fixing something up, he's tending his garden because he grows his own food. And if he's not doing that, he's out collecting cans to sell to the recycling plant. He works so hard his back has gotten fucked up the last few years, and even though my mom told him to slow down, he said he'll die before he stops putting his hands to work.
The point is, my Tata is more American than most people, and he loves this country. The stupid spics and other fucks who don't appreciate all that America represents and wave around the Mexican flag and shit? Fuck em. But to say "White people good, rest bad" is retarded.
James Lee
Because Democrats don't really push socialist policies; they push pro-business policies and dress them up as socialist policies. Obamacare is a glaring example.
Kevin Thomas
Asians are set to become a full quarter of the US by 2060 now thanks to H1b1 and exploitation of the birther laws by the Chinese. They used to vote right, but economically, they're dependent on the continuation of their importation for labor.
Easton Ross
I'm not wasting my time explaining to you what you either, won't be able to understand, or don't want to hear. You should leave Jow Forums and never come back to save yourself the identity crisis, it doesn't matter anyways.
No one has a right to immigrate here. I made the thread not because I believe minorities should get a free pass into this country, but that culturally, we're built on the idea of the American dream.
I'm not suggesting citizenship tests that prove incoming immigrants will vote Republican. Just testing your ability to succeed and stay off welfare, your affinity to freedom of speech and individualism, etc. What makes America, America.
Oliver Garcia
Does he always wear a yarmulke?
Evan Evans
He didn't "defend white supremacy", he's essentially bringing up the trotskyist (see: malicious) origins of these phrases and posing the question, "how did these become so loaded in the first place?". The (((NYT))) is just blowing it out of proportion because they can get away with it. youtube.com/watch?v=vFfRWzv5SZk
Tyler Howard
Lol. Patronizing as shit. I'll give it you, that made me kek. Which I don't get. Regardless of Benji being a cuck on some things, I don't see how pointing how saying "What's wrong with being a white supremacist?" is racist is factually incorrect.
Brandon Wood
>Muh old pol >muh secret club Bro, if you really like racism but only in a meme type way, I have some subreddits you may like. Otherwise its what the board is.
Jayden Gonzalez
In a radio interview he literally said that everything he does is guided by his "jewish values"
Chase Nelson
the american dream was for whites none of what you suggested is practical nothing short of mass deportation will stop what's happening now you picked a fine time to pretend to care about the future of this nation
I'm prejudiced, not racist. Got no problem calling a nigger a nigger, but I won't assume a black person is indeed a nigger until I see how they act.
Alexander Young
Ok mutt, why do you think access to white people and white nations is a fundamental human right? America was explicitly a nation for "free white men of good character" until the immigration policy was changed in 1965 under the Hart-Celler Act, with the explicitly stated promise that it wouldn't "upset the cultural and ethnic composition of the country".
Luis Sanders
The_donald in a nutshell, gtfo nigger lover
Logan Foster
>you picked a fine time to pretend to care about the future of this nation this, these arguments aren't even bothered with anymore on Jow Forums because the future is coming, and it's fucking bleak.
Logan Hughes
he talks so quickly, like he's hopped up on some kind of stimulant
Why? Gotta get back to Mohammed's cock and your oil protests? "No one has the right to immigrate here" >Why do you think it's a human right, mutt?
Lol. Based non-reading retard
Justin Ramirez
Lets say you were playing a carnival game. He hands you a basketball and lets you pick your hoop. One hoop is way too small, the other one is just the size of the ball, and the next has more than enough room. That is why people on this board talk about race in absolutes. 9/10 the meme applies which is why people grapple onto that. Its statistics, but we don’t give a fuck about the outliers anywhere else so why bother with race.
Joshua Scott
You are a nigger lover, own it.
Tyler Baker
Keep following along mongrel. I assume, because you're a declared patriot and all, that the Founding Fathers intent means something to you. You fundamentally, as an American patriot, should support the US restoring it's European demographics here in the US with explicit policy to do so.
>Using the same insult twice Yawn Nope. Euros are cucks. Don't want much part of them. They're already ruining their nations as it is. In relation to what? Intelligence? Success? Quality as a person?
Gabriel Long
shut the fuck up you pussy faggot
Matthew Morales
Oh, so we can use "extreme vetting" for nonwhites, but all of a sudden if we were to use this magic vetting to restore the ethnic stock of the country, all of a sudden race isn't arbitrary anymore? Do I understand this correctly?
Cooper Brown
Yes.
Henry Jackson
>Cultural upbringing and personal ideology means a lot more than that. prove it because the statistics don't support your claims
Levi Hughes
You're an idiot, stick to the sidelines
Juan Martin
stick to being a cuckservative faggot
Parker Lopez
>cuckservative Kindly remove yourself from the gene pool.
this cartoon should be uptaded, shapiro also brags about his racial purity
Carson Perry
>100% rat
Eli Young
>Those are ideologies, and ideas aren't beholden to a skin color. Anyone can posses them, Give me proof. So far only Japanese have succeeded to create modern western society.
Jordan Smith
Asians are extreme NPCs regardless of intelligence. They vote based on public sentiment. They are followers not leaders or thinkers.
Ayden Murphy
Either way, they could easily assimilate into western society. Far better than ((())) or niggers.
Daniel Lewis
>They vote based on public sentiment Sounds a lot like every country democracy exists in. Japs are honorary faggot.
Jace James
What was your first clue? His rat face of his high pitched jewy voice?
