For those of you who call themselves "natsocs" or "national socialists"--especially Russians, Poles and other easterners--what exactly do you think the Germans had planned for you?
Do you think it was just liberation and installation of puppet states? Do you actually think that you'd have had some kind of sovereignty, even though all signs point to the opposite being the case?
Explain yourselves. It baffles me to see Russians and the like shill for the Germans invading the Soviet Union under the impression that they were simply liberating them from Bolshevism, and not in fact the long-held ambition of colonising Eastern Europe as part of Lebensraum.
dont you just love it how for some of you natsoc means whitepride?
are you retarded op? also saged.
Matthew Price
NatSoc means spergy white nationalist, in my eyes. Answer the question, memeflag.
Evan Watson
kill yourself, inbred pajeet scum
saged.
Benjamin Bell
You're just a fucking coward then, aren't you.
Ethan Phillips
ah. so you agree with the statement that you are an inbred pajeet cuckold?
Luis Edwards
No. Answer the OP or leave, stop wasting captchas.
Easton Ortiz
The Nazis didn't even bother making use of those slavs who saw them as liberators. And that during a time when they could have put that manpower to good use. They cared more about oppressing slavs and driving them from their land than actually winning the war.
William Flores
What about the SS volunteers though?
Carson Brooks
nazis were as bad as commies because insce hitler took over they've been funded by jews. Germans were alright back then but got tricked into destroying europe whil high level nazis were sending influential jews to safety
Cooper Campbell
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Ethan Garcia
It's even sadder seeing Greeks shill that and the controlled opposition GD
Nathan Garcia
How come you think GD are controlled op? They seem legit, haven't heard much about them in about four to five years though.
Ryder Bailey
They do a fine job of making a mockery of nationalism. No actual plan no nothing. They are good as boots on the ground and that's about it
Daniel Bell
Most of those volunteers were actually pressed into service. And their numbers were tiny, Hitler could have easily used hohols against the Soviets (and to be fair they, they let them do the dirty work when it was convenient) but he didn't want people to think of slavs as anything more than cattle so he shut down all plans to make use of anti-bolshivic sentiment.
Robert Green
Polish natsocs barely exist. Russians on the other hand, they had ROA with general Vlasov. Some of this survived into contemporary Russia
Carter Green
They are the only dissenting voice in greece. You evidently do not participate in local meetings, you evidently don't even know that they are largely a grassroots movement that's being monitored by ΕΥΠ.
You are worse than the jews, you are a defeatist, self-hating, complacent traitor.
Hunter Peterson
Name some sort of possible influence, or some sort of big player in politics or business that has publicly supported GD or at least refused to condemn them when other relevant people did And I am not talking about stupid celebrities in morning shows or their ilk
Austin Martin
>inb4 jewish lies Hitler wrote about Lebensraum in Mein Kampf. You can hate kikes without sucking germ cock. Especially when they financed bolsheviks in the first place.
Thomas Martinez
>didn't even bother making use of those slavs Many were taken to Germany for forced labor.
Asher Reed
Also the fact that they are grassroots, which i acknowledge and was mistaken in implying otherwise doesnt mean they are competent. And in things like that, in those big leagues, only results matter and not other ethereal invisible things. That's life
Ryan Martinez
Let’s guess who’s behind the memeflag, my bet’s on India
Brody Cooper
Did you expect anyone to overtly show support for them, you literal shill? What exactly did you expect? They are the only voice in the parliament that call out the billions being funneled to immigrants, the fact that they repurposed our military bases into hot-spots, the several rapes that occured in Athens, Lesbos, Crete, Chios, and Rhodes. They routinely attack and bully migrants to instil fear. They help their local communities by picking up grocerries for the elderly, and guarding them when they take out their pensions from the ATMs. They offer support to the millions of our brothers and sisters that lost everything and struggle financially. They are everyday people, meeting up and discussing about politics and the state of affairs.
>pic related the person you voted for, you communist fuck
Slavs are better off when led by Germans. Shown by the Germanic Rus' who founded the first Russian states, by the German Romanov dynasty which led the Russian Empire for centuries, by the Slavs who benefited from the Austrian Empire etc You look at the partitions of Poland, the German partition was far better developed than the Russian partition Slavic peoples in historically German regions (Czechs, Slovenes, Croats) are today better developed and richer than Slavs outside historically German regions (Serbs, Bulgarians, Ukrainians)
Austin Morris
>What about the SS volunteers though? 82k Ukrainian enlisted for service in the division. Whoopty fucking doo. Meanwhile, several millions fought for partisans and red army. And it wasn't because of belief in communism or dear leader Stalin, but because germs were fucking shit. It was the war for survival.
Aaron Long
>If you dislike GD the nazi bootlickers you vote for Pasok and are a jew Dumbass.
Connor James
There is no other right-wing party in greece. There is no other party that is not bought for.
I don't care if you like them, if you dont support GD you are most definitely a kike, at least in spirit.
pretty sure slavic natsocs are slav-superiority oriented and have the same thing planned for germans that the german natsocs had planned for them, genocide and slavery
Grayson Martinez
The ROA genuinely did believe they were going to get a Russian Republic, though.
Nathan Harris
>Shown by the Germanic Rus' Rus' weren't Germans though, but Scandinavians. >by the German Romanov dynasty which led the Russian Empire for centuries Romanov dynasty was not German initially. And it's pre-German Romanovs who laid the foundation of the Russian Empire. German Romanovs ran into the ground, wasted it like complete morons.
Jose Turner
Well then, we need to get them to get more appeal. Randomly assassinating commies isnt as illustrious as it once was
Anthony Ward
I didn't say Rus' were German, I said they were Germanic and Scandinavians are Germanic
Luis Ramirez
Back when I used to have debates with Nazis on Jow Forums, they used to claim that Generalplan Ost is a fabrication. No documents of it have been found.
Henry Robinson
>being NatSoc = supporting German Expansionism that aside I can't speak about Slavslands but 100% what would have happened is that the Baltic-German nobility would have returned and reestablished their noble privileges, even if non-officially and take control of all their "ancestral" lands and factories. They would try to gain an "autonomous" Baltic Duchy going, and argue it an attempt to subdue local "peasants" while at the same time getting special treatment, like they did under the Commonwealth, under the Swedes and under the Germans Considering that Baltic-Germans were also russified to an extent, they would probably also try and get cozy positions in Russian territories, most likely Petersburg
Gabriel Martinez
>under the Germans Under the Russians*, obviously
John Powell
Germany saw the Soviet Union as what Britain saw India. Hitler literally wrote this. Read it up. He said, that the Soviet Union will be Germany's India.
>The basic reason for English pride is India. Four hundred years ago the English didn't have this pride. The vast spaces over which they spread their rule obliged them to govern millions of people — and they kept these multitudes in order by granting a few men unlimited power. It would obviously have been impossible for them to keep great European areas supplied with foodstuffs and other articles of prime necessity. In any case, the Anglicans never sustained the slightest effort of a missionary description. Thus it was that the Indians never suffered any attack of this sort upon their spiritual integrity. ... >What India was for England, the territories of Russia will be for us. If only I could make the German people understand what this space means for our future!
Anthony Green
>only we can rule the slavs because when we don't rule the slavs we destroy their country and this is proof slavs can't have a country without us
Samuel Powell
This is interesting, good post.
Elijah Sanders
Quintessentially Yiddish thinking
Jose Hill
well look at your country quite obviously the only Slavic countries doing somewhat ok today are under EU/German influence Slavic countries outside the EU like Serbia, Ukraine or Russia are absolute shitholes but keep coping
Justin Hall
yeah I'm looking at my country, you bulldozed it twice in the last century and we rebuilt it twice, you didn't bulldoze croatia or slovenia either of those times and they're just slightly better only because of sea access and tourism, not to even mention how much money you spent destroying yugoslavia in the 90's to get your bootlicker colonies back, I hope I get to kill some of you in my lifetime
Owen Clark
seething btw: you were always shit, even before we "bulldozed" you
Yeah, but you said: >Slavs are better off when led by Germans. Scandinavians and Germans are not quite the same people. And, again, as for Romanovs. Everybody knows that the defining person of the Russian Empire is Peter the Great. I mean, he founded it. But he was no German. And Tsars before Peter had to overcome much greater obstacles, they made Russia what it is. Everybody post-Peter was just coasting.
Germans wanted to take russian, ukrainian, belorussian "lebensraum", this is why the declared war to USSR.
There are no other logical reasons.
Nolan Parker
>Scandinavians and Germans are not quite the same people. Fucking THIS Germans just absolutely love stealing our heritage and crediting themself for it, the soulless cunts without identity.
Isaac Thompson
wow immagine that, if you actively destroy a country both physically and economically every time it's rebuilt it's not a good place to live
Ian Barnes
I'll join. A dead Kraut is one less enemy for Europe.
Henry Reyes
look at the date of the map you stupid retard
Hudson Garcia
Danzig looks awful at polish hands
Austin Parker
Well is he wrong? can you name one successful slavic country?
> soulless cunts without identity. It makes sense when you realize "Germans" came from Belgium.
Dominic Jenkins
oh yeah forgot we're a sovereign nation so that's why our government is actively destroying local business and importing german companies that pay us 10% of what they pay german workers
Jeremiah Sanders
Pretty based 2bh
Samuel Watson
no matter what germniggers had planned for us - the kikes have planned something far worse for them :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
lmao nice victim complex you got there if you stub your toe at night it's probably also Germany's fault maybe try not being a country of corrupt alcoholics for once
John Butler
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You are associating National Socialism which is a political ideology with Germans which are an ethnic group. Thinking that Nazi ideology can work doesn't have anything to do with the ethnicity of the people practicing it. t. I am an apolitical faggot.
Jonathan Davis
That does make sense. I unironically like Poland better than Germany, you're alright Krzysztof - this has the G*rm on suicide watch.
checked and none of stormcucks' mental gymnastics can't change the fact it was yet another clay grab under guise of some bullshit ideology
Parker Rodriguez
now do the same with spending power and realize that middle class germans have less disposable income than people who are considered poor in the usa
Carter Carter
nice strawman you got there we tried being a sovereign nation, you paid america to bomb us and every government since has been german bootlickers, infact all options on our elections are german bootlickers and an insane retard that will get us bombed again
Jayden Ward
>we just wanted to genocide some people, why did you bomb us :( absolute state of S*rbia
Kevin Thomas
yes ideology is bullshit
German warchief Adolf the Mad united europeans and atacked our lebensraum Europe had overproduction and debt crisis, so they wanted to take more lebensraum
Russians warchief told people of USSR to protect living space and to kill germans and other europeans. People of ussr hated communism, they just were just killed germans and their european allies. they have won
European invaders have lost as usual. ussr redistributed their lebensraum. but many defeated enemies remained unpunished and didnt pay the toll due to communistic bullshit.
the end
Jack Morales
fuck eutocorrection
they were just killing germans and their european allies*
Eli Taylor
>neo-nazis >logic lol.
Jacob Diaz
daily reminder that no other race killed their own more than white people killed eachother. white people are fucking wrost than niggers. thats the real red pill.
WW1 WW2 European wars of religion
"Let us look for a moment at the number of victims sacrificed on the altars of the Christian Moloch: 1,000,000 perished during the early Arian schism; 1,000,000 during the Carthaginian struggle; 7,000,000 during the Saracen slaughters in Spain. 5,000,000 perished during the eight Crusades; 2,000,000 of Saxons and Scandinavians lost their lives in opposing the introduction of the blessings of Christianity. 1,000,000 were destroyed in the Holy Wars against the Netherlands, Albigenses, Waldenses, and Huguenots. 30,000,000 Mexicans and Peruvians were slaughtered before they could be convinced of the beauties of the Christian creed. 9,000,000 were burned for witchcraft. Total, 56,000,000"
National Socialism is literally based around the German Volk, though.
Thomas Nguyen
What does that have to do with his post you hooked nose oven-fodder?
Gabriel Thomas
no one knows.
btw it's very convenient that literally 0 pieces of document exist about "Generalplan Ost". it's literally, unironically hearsay
Logan Watson
with the system national socialism is not much wrong. the fact somebody like hitler and a country like germany that wanted a big landgrab, combined with some mass killings is why everything that even looks like nationalism socialism is shunned by normies.
Xavier Martinez
totally relevant you ugly yellow teeth human trash.
You can be nat-soc and not a Nazi, thinking the ideology was sound doesn't justify the perceived war crimes committed in its name just like being a communist doesn't justify the crimes of pol pot, Stalin et all... Foolproof and factual defense of the nat-soc ideology.
David Myers
3rd reich was bankrupt, hitler had debts in gold and no gold.
he required assets to back his deabts, otherwise german feudals would reduce his "virtual" reality socialism back to dark ages
Daniel Richardson
>. Polish natsocs are stupid bydlo with iq smaller than their penises. Especialy when historicly, as a pole you have tradition of healthy, white nationalism and you don't have to larp as a german brainlet.
Oliver Sanders
Amazing how kike flags are always the most triggered and butthurt on Jow Forums. Not even canucks, Poles or Swedes fling as much shit as they do. Their neuroticism really shows
James Wright
>war costs money conceptualize my consternation
Asher Cox
It's an echo of USSR collapse. The situation is improving though, year by year.
Hitler literally shat gold, German state went bankrupt postwar when the Germans hid their geld from the US
Austin Parker
>it's very convenient that literally 0 pieces of document exist about "Generalplan Ost". >it's literally, unironically hearsay
Pol will ignore this.
Robert Nelson
Russians need to be cleansed of their criminal government, like any country. The problem is the Russian people.
Elijah Scott
Pretty sure I read that that quote was fake.
David Brown
One of the reasons I really hate the Third Reich is because I am on the far-right and I don't really love any of the three sides during ww2. But, the Nazis just used all of Europe's reactionary potential and wasted it. If the Nazis were just not totally crazy then they could have destroyed the USSR and not fought a war with the western powers.
Daniel Morgan
debts in gold are pre-war
reich used meme monopoly money reichsmark to back meme money hitler required assets (elite was able to exchange meme non-gold money on assets that bring more profits)
germany makes same shit today.
germans had no gold they owed 100000 t of gold to uk and france since ww1 and foreign markets were blocked for them.
Wyatt Brooks
The nazis were not reactionary, they were revolutionary and most reactionary parties opposed them on this ground, stop talking about shit you don't understand, both nazis and fascists wanted to create a new order and a new man.
