Do you agree? Should EU healthcare workeds be imprisoned until they “paid off their debt to society” to ensure functioning healthcare systems in each EU state?
What happens if we extend this system to engineers, business people, lawyers, factory workers etc.?
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Or you could raise their wages to incentivize them to stay and work.
You can try, Kraut. They will dresden your shit again
BUT MOMMY MERKEL SAID THEY WERE GOING TO BE DOCTORS, LAWYERS, AND ENGINEERS
But it would be easier to just put up 100m high walls with machine gun nests to keep people in.
Ja! Wir haben da dank der Flüchtlingspolitik genug Ärzte und Ingenieure aus Syrien bekommen.
>socialised healthcare is functional
>I hate evolution pls let's make a race of epileptic diabetic dyslexic autistic homosexuals
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow. Just wow.
So Salvini actually managed to push italian public to levels of totalitarianism not even seen in times of Mussolini.
Based Germaster, a true representative of democratic brotherhood of nations.
Wasnt this predictible from a libertarian/conservative perspective?
And once again a socialist program has to use force(laws) and limit individual freedom to make the program “work”.
This homo is going to be the next German chancellor
He attended Bilderberg in 2017
This is actually a really good idea.
>German Health Minister suggests doctors and nurses should be chained to one country
Reagan warned against this in his speech of socialized medicine back in 1961
It's a great idea until you hit quit rates that are high enough to drink in the US.
See also: Cuba and its brain drain problem among medical personnel. They must have something in common with Germany....something...I can't think of anything but there must be some kind of pattern. Meme flag guaranteed to be chosen randomly and absolutely unrelated by the way.
That would be against human rights.
idiot, if you do this you would logically ban immigration.
>human rights
Human rights are what the left say they are.
The return of serfs, and fuedal system under a European superstate. Each "country" will be dismantled and replaced by Euro districts. District 9...
But I thought they're importing doctors from somalian and afghanistan
I don't know why they're worrying, Germany just imported 2.5 million doctors and engineers.
Oh noooo, how can we ban immigration if we just banned emigration?
EU minister playing the long con
this is literally banning immigration. i thought that was a human right
Wait? Didn't Germany import a billion doctors from the middle east and africa over the years?
Were they lying? WTF!
Wait, I thought thousands of doctors and engineers were migrating in the EU?
kek that is actually pretty funny
Get fucked Klaus. You guys are the ones that shill hardest for Schengen. You can't have it both ways.
It certainly seems to be cheaper for the state than the alternative
This is a sensible concept. If the government pays big bucks to educate doctors, they do so for the gain of their people, not for an individual to become rich by switching sides.
I want to laugh but I don't think I can anymore
"free education" everybody. enslaved with your own tax money. enjoy.
If only they'd stop doctors and engineers from immigrating too
>professionals move to germany
Schengen is important to maintain workforce mobility in a global economy!
>professionals move out of germany
WAIT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE THE CENTER OF THE GLOBAL ECONOMY COME BAAAAAACK REEEEEEEEEEE
EU getting twitchy and don't want their most productive citizens leaving and taking their worth with them. Lots of immigrants and rapefugees need those gibs.
Don’t worry, lad, Romania and Poland and Greece will keep sending you their lowly qualified gypsies, whores and criminals.
Free healthcare, or free people. You can’t have both. You control the healthcare, you control the people
Germany following the Cuban model.
kek.
> EVERY SHITSKIN CAN COME TO GERMANY
also
> NO GERMAN CAN LEAVE
HOLY SHIT.
Asylum is a human right.
All krauts have the right to escape the genocidal plans of their government.
Typical fucking hanz wanting people in servitude to the state some more.
There is an easy way to stop this problem. Just make med schools costly... but let doctors and nurses off the hook from paying a dime ...10% for each year they remain in the country after graduation.
so let’s say you graduate and leave immediatelt, you are on the hook for 250k. But if you stay for 2yrs first, it is only 200k and if you stay 6yrs, it is only 100k etc.
We'll take all your doctors and engineers. Let the brain drain intensify. Ever read Atlas Shrugged? Euros are doing it to themselves and the productive people will simply stop producing. Get ready for the U.S. merit system of immigration. We're taking all your good people!
wr should ban immigration and encorage emigration. population reduction will increase quality of life and in every developed country. population is becoming a national burden.
>All krauts have the right to escape the genocidal plans of their government.
Considering they voted for it and continue to tacitly accept I say they should have to live with it. There need to be consequences for actions and much in the same vein that I'd bar Californians from leaving California Germans should have to remain in Germany to learn what they did wrong.
What in “a functioning society needs functioning people” didn’t you understand? If 2 million illegals come to a country of 82 million, then you can’t have 1 million German real doctors, engineers, nurses and business people leave.
>Immigrants aren't a bunch of lazy criminals, they're doctors and lawyers and engineers
>Wait, some of them actually are those things? Shit, shut it down.
Oh no! But then how would german import all of those 3rd world engineers, doctors and lawyers?
Every day that goes by the EU turns less E and more SSR.
At this point I'm thoroughly convinced it would be better to leave and crash it, and pay the immediate consequences, than to allow it to exist any longer.
Pay them a higher wage and they will stay
btw the whole doctor poaching thing is a serious problem in hungary
they get a cheap education here and then move elsewhere
we literally have no doctors
You will pay our wages either way Hans, your choice if we stay here or go to Germany and steal your job as well
>We'll take all your doctors and engineers.
It’s very hard to get a US greencard. In 2015, 614 German doctors moved to Switzerland, 228 to Austria and only 114 to the US.
For German engineers it is even harder to move to the US because of tough immigration restrictions for white Europeans.
What can be done?
Hasn't immigration increased in the EU? Surely some of them are capable of being doctors.
>open borders and free movement for everyone in our socialist utopia
>except doctors, you gotta stay put
European brain drain incoming. Will be nice to have Euro medical professionals migrating to the west instead of the stream of third-world shite we’ve had for the last couple of decades
>What happens if we extend this system to engineers, business people, lawyers, factory workers etc.?
Western Europe will start losing power
don't all the african doctors they recently imported offset the small amount of german emigration?
>System so bad you have to force people to stay
The US needs to build a wall to keep people out.
The EU needs to build a wall to keep people in.
Kind of says it all, really.
Witch doctors are a poor substitute for the genuine article
No, because we are leaving this steaming shitshow.
>you get what you pay for
Or you could have mechahitler keep all the doctors within the country
Free movement or no free movement at all
Honestly, say how it is fair that countries like the UK or Germany are poaching doctors and other educated people from Poland, Romania, Hungary, Estonia. These countries invest billions in these people... for them to run off and work in other European countries.
I agree that something has to be done. And charging the cost of university studies to graduates who leave within 5-10yrs of graduation without an intent to return is one way to do so.
It is fair and it will significantly restrict immigration within Europe. We all know how much of a plague immigration is within Europe, finally somebody speaks out against it and aims to restrict Hungarian roastie business graduates from moving to Berlin or Warsaw graduate engineers from moving to London.
I don't get it.
I thought they just imported a lot of doctors, engineers, and lawyers.
On a serious note can one of you stupid fucking Euro mongs just remove these fucks with some fire and fast moving lead?
>We'll take all your doctors and engineers.
No you won't, you'll keep taking in millions of pajeets instead.
Immigrating to the US is pretty much impossible for a european.
>Hasn't immigration increased in the EU?
Immigration within the EU is extremely low. 97% of Europeans who live in the EU live in the state of their birth.
Once they force doctors and nurses to stay, they'll start to force them to work. Once the doctors work deminishes they'll punish them and their families like the good communists that they are.
Immigration from Africa to Europe is rather limited compared to immigration from Asia and the Middle East /Turkey to Europe.
Also, immigrants to Europe are mostly unskilled, only 20% have some college or a college degree. And even of the few engineers of doctors, not all can be used due to low standards of education and work in their home countries.
Well I hope it's at least twice as good because the american government is paying AND the patient is paying, seems real retarded
>Hasn't immigration increased in the EU? Surely some of them are capable of being doctors.
Yeah , fucking witch doctors .
He is like McCain.
Mccain was highly for border security to get reelected, because he knew it was impossible. When Trump came along, all his promises were forgotten.
The key would be a working mainstream media which kind of exposes them as liars to such a level that nobody could ever vote for them again.
You society is already dysfunctional as fuck if you are importing 2 million illegals Hans.
They need to go back or into an oven.
So, what you are saying is that having total freedom of movement for goods and people among a block of 28 countries with radically different economies and standards of living is a stupid fucking idea that should have never been implemented and is causing massive social, political and economic damage among all countries in said block?
Couldn't have said it better myself, Hans. Glad we're on the same page here.
Doctors are without borders I thought.
fuck paying doctors millions
I'd rather stay ill
>The US needs to build a wall to keep people out.
>The EU needs to build a wall to keep people in.
>Kind of says it all, really.
Care to explain? Both the EU and US struggle with low skilled immigration. Due to America being monolingual, America does not experience a brain drain, but the continental EU is polylingual and has suffered a brain drain to English speaking countries for decades... especially from poor Eastern European nations.
>Brexit happening and no more Romanians, Hungarians, Polish, Pakistanis, Indians
DOUBT
>restricted travel
you guys are like the soviet union but for faggots
Hey, hey I had an idea, how about you build a big wall around the whole country to keep people IN?
You could put barbed wire fence on top and shoot anyone who tried to cross. You could plant landmines on the fence itself that would explode and maim people trying to defect.
You’ve got to think big Hans.
From what I've seen and according to the number of patients that come here for advanced medical operations, the US has some of the best doctors, facilities and technology in the world. Although, I wouldn't put my local hospital on the list of greats.
holy phuck
they want to turn Germany into an open air KZ
Here are some more ideas to get you started. I drew them all myself, no need to thank me!
we have large groups of unhealthy drug using minorities that those other countries don't have. How about you show a study that controls for that.
Fuck that. You should be banned from leaving your country until you repay every single euro your country has subsidized your university education with. That especially goes for doctors.
Freedom of movement for goods and services isn’t a bad thing really. Honestly, it isn’t, it is just free market competition at work.
Freedom of movement with socialist education and uni systems and socialist welfare systems? That’s a big fucking problem and we really need to end this. One way to end is without Stasi methods is by charging people for their education if they leave. Tell me how this is a problem.
Maybe the EU should get some rules to stop worthless shitskins from immigrating instead
Hmm maybe if you didn’t import savages then the civilized wouldn’t leave hmmm
Looks better than most border checkpoints.
>Care to explain?
I mean, I didn't think it needed any more explanation. The political and economic system in the US, while by no means perfect, has created an environment where we're literally having to discourage more people from trying to immigrate because it will take away too many opportunities from native citizens. While the EU, for all it's ranting about how great the Union is and how great their "Democratic Socialism" is and all their pretentious snobbery about how terrible things are in the US, has created an environment where people are so dissatisfied and desperate to emigrate that you're actually seriously contemplating making it illegal for people to leave.
Of you have cheap dr education then why isn’t everyone doing it? Is the pay absolutely shit?
soon white people will be chained so they couldn't run away
how does it feel to have slavery reversed on you?
>we are the Societ Union
meanwhile the US uses the EXACT same system proposed here. You charge high tuitions for your universities and make sure that your doctors remain in the US rather than move away... hell, some of your states and hospitals grant scholarships which require your doctors to practice there after graduation.
kek
The US has a program like this but you have to be a doctor on some bumfuck injun reservation to pay it off.
That's a plan. We have experience with stuff like that.
A WALL doesn’t work. You need to think outside the box. People won’t be kept inside or outside by walls, but they will be kept at certain places for money, pussy and goodies.
>You may just see a few orcs, but I see a doctor, an engineer and a scientist.
"TREAT AHMED OR GULAG" hope your whole nation plus the french gets wiped out by the plague