I recently started a job as a Booking Clerk in a Jail and fucking hate it. Most of my coworkers are hostile loudmouths. Is this normal for this line of work? Do law enforcement related jobs generally attract a degenerate crowd? I'm wondering if I should bail on it.
I recently started a job as a Booking Clerk in a Jail and fucking hate it. Most of my coworkers are hostile loudmouths...
Law enforcement has a very 'boys club' culture, and with that comes a culture of pseudo-hypermasculinity.
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Yeah, I agree. Thanks for your opinion cause I was thinking the same thing from working here. I just didn't know if I was the only one that thought this way. I recently earned my BA degree at University and compared to the University crowd, I'm definitely more of that type too (into Weight lifting, Basketball, Drinking), but the hypermasculinity is inflated at this job. Part of it is definitely that those guys have been working here for years and are comfortable in their work setting along with me only being here for a month and not being as comfortable with myself. Either way though, I just don't think I'm going to fit in
I only earn $15 an hour even with my BA degree and it's mandatory that 5% of my income goes towards to a retirement fund too. I feel like I should start searching for a different job. Either way, I'm planning on law school for next year. I need to be in a job that is better suited for me, and where I can be amongst people that I'm similar to.
A lot of it is just oneupmanship, really. That, and a need to prove that you're 'just as manly' as everyone else, which leads to exaggeration which then escalates into extremes. Anyone that's more moderate doesn't want to speak out for fear of being ostracised or teased.
Lawyer here. Most law firms are quite pretentious and many lawyers see themselves as 'above' most people. I was fortunate enough to get a job with a firm that's pretty down to earth and has solid values, but that's not the case with all firms.
Definitely. A weird part about the job too is that the bitchiest coworkers of mine are actually the female COs. Christ, I've never came across so many bitter and masculine women in my life.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll keep that in mind when looking ahead at my career choices.
I make that as a dishwasher and get free dinner.
Hahahahaha, I laughed at that. Damn, that's rough. I live in a part of the country with a low cost of living. Someone that lives in New York or San Francisco for example is going to need $30/hour to afford the same things that I do with 15
It's because they've had to struggle to fit in with the 'boys club' culture. There's very little room for femininity, which is seen as weakness, and any level of assertiveness among women is often seen as bitchiness.
Smaller firms are generally better about being down to earth. It's bigger firms and firms that do corporate law that are more pretentious than others.
That seems to be true. Yeah, they certainly do have to prove that they are fit for the job. And they have to compensate because they are women, shorter, and have less physical strength. To touch on a point someone else made also, yeah, there are more moderate people and even some moderate corrections officers within our organization too. Those ones still go along with the flow because they have to, but you can tell, particularly with the moderate civilians that they are uncomfortable with certain aspects of the job.
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become a cop. cop life is better, higher pay and looks good on law school applications
lmao I'm 6'4" try again kiddo
Still your masculinity is fragile and delicate as a flower. Poor thing, feminazis oppresing you again?
But that’s the thing, I live in a small city within a state with no income tax. Our restaurant just believes in paying us well, plus we get a take of the banquets. In a month the pantry gal is leaving so I move up and make $17 for slicing deserts and plating salads.
Hey OP. I work in a jail as well. Yes, you will have those that bark the loudest to try to shut down the inmates that want to test you before it gets out of line. They're also usually the first to cry out when barking turns to fighting.
I tell my inmates I'll treat them respectfully but it cuts both ways. I can sit in most of my tanks and watch TV with them without concern because they know I'll treat them fairly if they come at me respectfully. Once you have the respect of at least a few people, the rest will typically fall in line. It goes that way for staff as well as inmates.
Another thing to consider is that these guys don't know you. They're going to want to know what you're made of. When I started, the troops there were standoffish and I felt like I was on my own but as I proved myself capable and reliable, the camaraderie flourished.
The thing to remember is that they're relying on you to make sure they go home as much as you rely on them. I hate to admit it, but some people just didn't come around until they saw how I handled myself in a fight. After that, we were good.
About 5 years on now and yea, it was hard for the first several months, but after the guys realized I could be counted on, they took me in, gave me useful tips, taught me some techniques, and started working out in the gym with me after our shift. Now I try to do that for our new boots.
What's your BA if you don't mind me asking? If it's a non-meme degree, then it shouldn't be that difficult for you to find a job that somewhat consists of skills that you garnered while getting your degree. I think you can do better than $15 an hour.
>Tells us about his physical traits in search for peer approval.
You're insecure alright.