Why are American women so obsessed with height? I'm an Euro in America and it's insane

Why are American women so obsessed with height? I'm an Euro in America and it's insane.

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With women, sexual attraction is a mental thing. Its not necessarily the height that they are attracted too, it's how having someone bigger than them (and most of their male peers) makes them feel. If you're taller than them you can make it work easily (5'8 and above) but once you get into my height shit is difficult to spin. You CAN spin it but it is a hard sell to most women to be sexually attracted to gimli from lord of the rings.

t. 5'5 manlet who isn't a virgin

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The male average height in America is taller than in Europe, so superficial people will use height as a means of sorting through who qualifies as a potential partner; but in all honesty it's pretty ridiculous and it's gotten out of hand with all the 6' memes. It's simply not statistically possible for every basic bitch to get a goals +6' bf.

False. The male average height in Europe is 5'10" and in the US is 5'9".

It varies greatly from country to country (being something like 5'8" in Spain and 6" in Serbia) but still.

What have you noticed so far op? How is it different from Europe?

They're both 5'10 if you really want to be a fact checking faggot; this correction does not invalidate any of what we both said since my argument was cultural and yours wasn't an argument.
Congratulations, this has been a completely pointless interaction beyond the pleasure of answering >(You) back.

No they're not. Where did you get such a dumb idea from?

I've been asked my height outright on tinder like 3 times, and it has never happened before. Also I see lots more teasing thrown towards short guys than back in Europe (I'm German btw)

Heightism has no seriousness at all in this country, honestly. It's really annoying. I am a short guy wit a deep voice and have been told countless times "wooow ummm you don't look like you should have that voice lol"

it's the equivilant to saying to another black person "wow you don't look like you should be driving that car."

but its good to know that verticulture is better over there than here

American women are shallow and just want to find a man who looks great. Tall people in average are considered to be more attractive than short people.

Cause nuutiicaasaaa (sounds like Murica when you scream it, try it)

(Social) media, insecurity, desire to compete with peers etc.

I've long since given up trying but by no means are you out of luck if you're short. It is harder though and you get away with less so you really have to have a certain personality type to make it work. In other words if you're a short introvert like me you're gonna have a hard fucking time.

It's better in yurop really. Most girls are ok with just taller than them, even if it's just 1 or 2 inches. Only in America have I seen the obsession with only 6+. Even if the girl is 5'2 he still has to be 6 or bust.

What women say and what they want are two different things. I can guarantee you that every girl who says a guy has to be 6' tall will forget about it when fucking a 5'6" guy.

Agreeing with you partially. It's definitely a mental thing and not about the literal height. I'm shorter than probably everyone in this thread and haven't been single for a long time.

If you have good traits (nice career, provider, good grooming, confident) suddenly being short is handsome, attractive, whatever.

If you're a jobless, basement pothead who can't hold convo with girls, being short's suddenly undesirable and gross. It becomes one more reason why you're undateable. It's topsy turvy like that.

Short is never attractive, you just make up for it lol

Tall is never attractive you dolt. Average height is optimal, anything taller and it goes downhill fast.

No, optimal height is 6'1-6'2 which is a good 4-5 inches over average.

How many 6'2" guys do you know who are physically attractive? That's right, next to none. That height or taller, you are almost always lanky or fat.

Is it being a "mental thing" somehow supposed to make it better? I don't understand.

Where the hell are you getting this number? 5 7 is optimal and ideal, tf are you talking about. This has been known.

Are there girls with a short fetish like there are guys with fat fetishes?

Not really. I know plenty of people who are ridiculously hot, in that range. Taller than that looks a bit odd, but ideal height for guys is 5'10-6'3.
Not saying that if you're shorter you're gross, I dated guys who were 5'5. But taller guys have it easier.

Wow... this whole thread is filled with incel cucks who believe hight matters and care about women because pussy is the only thing that matters in the universe.

What you think is 5'10"-6'3" is actually 5'8"-6'. Women are shit at determining height. You probably also believe that the men you dated all had 8" dicks.

I'm 5'7, I can tell if a guy is my height or not. I'm not retarded.
Last two guys I dated were in that range (both around 6'2) and both of them were really, really attractive.

If someone told you you would never have sex or a loving relationship for as long as you were alive, how would you feel?

I'm 5'7", went on a date with a girl who said she is also 5'7" and she was shorter than me while wearing heels.

I am 5'7". Measured by a doctor.

>Women are shit at determining height. You probably also believe that the men you dated all had 8" dicks.
Shit, this is me. However, I admit that I feel a little uncomfortable dating a (as he says) 5'10'' guy with a (as he says) 6'' dick, because at least to me both look smaller. Maybe I'm just comparing him to my exes and my own height (almost 5'8''). Yes he has a great personality and that makes up for the rest, but I'm sad to say that it's always on the back of my mind.

I guess I'm just really superficial but it also applies to me, if I were a short guy I'd have height and dick surgery for sure with how insecure I am. I already had rhinoplasty for a minor bump that no one noticed, just because I couldn't stop thinking about it.

>if I were a short guy I'd have height and dick surgery for sure with how insecure I am
It's great to be a man because neither of these things exist.

Yikes
I hope I never run into a woman like you.

Do you live on another planet? Because they do. Sure they are expensive and won't give you much (at most ~5'' height, at most ~2'' length & some girth) and they also have more than a month of healing time, but they certainly exist.

Yeah I feel you. However, fixing it has done a lot in making me feel less insecure, which is a big step to being actually happy with yourself.

>implying that those surgeries are not highly expensive nor make you look like a freak.
It is less so that you doll yourself, and more so that you constantly judge your bf for those things. As well as hide those judgements from him.

>Be me, 6'1
>GF's ex looks like fucking Brad Pitt, is 6'5

>I'm German
How tall are you then? Just curious.
I'm the daughter of turkish immigrants. Average height of all German guys in my social circle is 6'3 = 1,90m.
I'm litterally a dwarf woman (5'3 = 1,60m) and the guys are like towers around me.

I'd never persuade him to have surgery of any kind. That's something personal and you should only do it if You want to feel better about Yourself, and not to please others. That said, most cosmetic surgeries look fine as long as you go for something natural. Yes it's also surgically possible to grow by 8 inches, but imagine your body proportions if you ever did that to your legs. For 2''-4'' no one will be able to tell unless you're a mega manlet and even having 3'' longer legs would make you look weird.

I have bad news for you buddy: all women are like that.

Americans are very r-selected. It's also why they prefer ass over tits.

Depends on where in Europe. If you take all of Europe including the shitholes in Southern Europe, sure, but the average male height in the Netherlands is 1.83 m (about 6 ft). I'm just above average in the Netherlands, but I'm definitely tall when I'm in Italy or Spain or something.

>6 inches in Serbia
Fucking hell this is what communism does to you, lads.

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Kek. I mistyped.

I'm sorry Serbian anons. You're tall and hot.

>Depends on where in Europe.
This. Nordics are fucking tall.

>tfw slightly above-average 5'11" Britbong
Juuust right.

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You're not Nordic. You're a isleander.
With Nordic I meant Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland, Finland, Holland

Fucking obviously mate. The Nords are lanklet sausage-suckers.
The eternal Anglo lives on in the adequate middle-ground.

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>tfw 5'8" in Finland
Middle school girls are my height and the guys routinely tower over me.

>Middle school girls are my height and the guys routinely tower over me.
Sorry for you mate.
I'm the 5'3 woman from this post I get where you're coming from. 12 year old boys are usually taller than me.
>The Nords are lanklet sausage-suckers.
They're fucking hot though....

It's not so bad. Girls don't grow past 5'9" too often so I don't feel all that emasculated. I doubt I'm ever allowed to climb a 6' goddess, which hurts just a bit.

>I doubt I'm ever allowed to climb a 6' goddess, which hurts just a bit.
Don't give up. It's possible!

Thanks for the encouragement. I'll do my best.
Heading to bed now; maybe with ample rest I can still grow a few mm at the ripe age of 26.