So if the Holocaust wasn't real, what about the Posen speeches then?
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Julian Morales
(((secret recordings)))
Brody Sanders
in B4 false claims that the pic on the right isn't german troops,
In b4 claims the posen speeches are fake
in b4 claims that "tearing up at the roots" is the same as "lovingly transplanting"
in b4 some idiot says it wasn't real.
Lincoln Torres
don't bother low IQ people here even consider Mein Kampf fake.
Isaiah Williams
The holocaust was a false flag operation started by Hitler himself to set up nationalism as something to be reviled and shot down just as we see it is today. Hitler set up the hoax as much as possible on his side but most Nazis didn’t fall for it hence they had to make it up without real evidence. It was all to garner sympathy and support for the Jews so they could control the world to this day and it worked.
Dominic Lopez
I know people who consider Hitler to be a jewish shill himself, this place is too far gone for reason
Christian Davis
It happened but not on the scale that the jews claimed it happened.
Banishing news isn’t anything new it has been done many times before, and that’s what we were trying to do back then.
Forcefull reposession, segregation, discrimination were all measures to make them leave, either US, Israel etc. however when the war broke out and the leadership started to see things go sour, they tried to kill as many as possible by slave labor, execution etc to drag them down with them.
Again I don’t know if we would have enacted an extermination policy if we had won the war, but for the things that have happened, the hate was there, but nobody goes out of his way to do what was claimed.
Justin Lee
What are you implying?
Himmler does say extermination, several times.
Jaxon Collins
Usually this place becomes a purity spiral because it is anonymous and there isn’t a general concensus on what is the established truth, so people push the line to make their argument relevant and new.
Same goes with the definition of whiteness, constinusly drawing the line of what is considered white.
That’s a problem with anonymity in general, you don’t really have to own up to your arguments sometimes so you just shitpost, either for hate or just to have fun.
Mason Rogers
Himmler isn’t the all mighty daddy that his word is law and whatever he says will be done. People don’t really give a shit that much if the guy in charge goes with the flow, if people don’t find your actions justified they will incite trouble, because there are thousand of hyeans ready to pounce for the position and are looking for every reason to incite some unrest.
Liam Diaz
>by the america jewish committee, american jewish year book, jewish statistical bureau
Yeah so what. Jews died. Along with a bunch of others from anti-partisan efforts, disease, and malnourishment. The poles and czech aren't making a big deal about it. Besides, can you even tell the difference between a dead jew and a dead slav? Even if there was 6 million bodies to point at (there wasn't), how would you know.
>imagine getting sentenced to death for murder for which they never even produced a body
That's the Nuremberg trials in a nutshell. Who is the victim. It's a fucking ghost, doesn't exist.
Evan Rivera
Is that Himmler speaking? I don't know that for sure, bc I have never met Himmler, neither have you. I always liked how he said how "every NSDAP member says of course we exterminate the Jews - says it in our party program" (often quoted). But it doesn't say that in the party program. Nowhere. Why would Himmler say something like that? Bc he didn't know the party program of the NSDAP? As a man from November 1923?
Julian Anderson
>The poles and czech aren't making a big deal about it
lolwut
Samuel Rogers
>tinfoilhat the post
Parker Roberts
> (You)
>>by the america jewish committee, american jewish year book, jewish statistical bureau
just incase you do not know - this is the American World Almanac, 1949 edition. Deniers on a regular basis claim that the AWA (which published 1939 data until 1949 because they had no updated data) "proves" that no jews died at all in the war because in 1948 they say there were the same number of jews as in 1939. They cut off the bit that says "that is because it is 1939 data" (underlined in red in pic related - the 48 edition.
this is the source that deniers use.
Julian Walker
>Himmler isn’t the all mighty daddy that his word is law and whatever he says will be done.
Head of the SS. a personal private army/police force paramilitary organisation sworn to obey all his commands... not really powerful at all.
Lincoln Scott
Do you not know how easy it is to fake a recording?
Ethan Scott
The Holocaust was real and justified.
Zachary Gutierrez
The Holocaust did NOT happen. And it should NOT happen again. And again. And again. Until the job is NOT finished
Adam Sanders
I've listened to quite a few Himmler speeches and it sounds like him, in voice and in style. You can always claim everything is fake, then no evidence is good enough.
I'm not trying to prove the holocaust, or disprove it, I don't care. What matters to me as a Christian, is whether or not a government was willing to murder innocent civilians and children - and there is absolutely never a reason to do so, or not. Relocate yes, murder no, and Himmler clearly speaks about murder.
Jackson Young
but people who were there have confirmed it was him. the transcripts existed as well.
Liam Kelly
The fact that holohoax believers have to resort to such teeny tiny oddball 'proof' in order to back up their beliefs ought to be all the evidence you need to know they're full of shit. If the holocaust was so obvious, and so undeniable, why do they have to fall back on such minor details to back themselves up.
>Line 551 in these meeting notes from 1941 uses the word 'eliminate' in reference to 'workers' in Poland.
>This speech shows clear disdain for jews.
>This diary we have here actually uses the word 'delouse' which we know was a euphemism for 'gas all jews'
If it really happened, they could find a mass grave, shattered bones, giant ash deposits, burning pits, anything that would indicate a mass murder had taken place. Yet they never find that stuff.
Evan Martinez
you know this basket has IDs right ? turbokike
also, if you were actually German you'd know that "ausrotten" translates to "cut off / drive out"
>Darum haltet meinen Sabbat, denn er soll euch heilig sein. Wer ihn entheiligt, der soll des Todes sterben. Denn wer >eine Arbeit am Sabbat tut, der soll ausgerottet werden aus seinem Volk.
[Das Zweite Buch Mose (Exodus) 31.14, Luther Bible]
>Therefore you are to observe the sabbath, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; >for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people.
[Exodus 31:14, New American Standard Bible]
Jayden Brooks
The holocaust, who cares? Jewish victimhood? They probably deserved it. Fucking Grabblers.
Asher Nguyen
>if you were actually German
Never claimed I was, but I speak German.
>"ausrotten" translates to "cut off / drive out"
It doesn't. The English rendering of the verse also says exterminate, put to death:
>Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
>Exodus 31:14
According to German dictionary Duden, ausrotten means "kill every last one" or "remove from the world":
duden.de
Zachary Rogers
>If it really happened, they could find a mass grave, shattered bones, giant ash deposits, burning pits, anything that would indicate a mass murder had taken place.
all of which has been found at all the major camps...
Jordan Martin
uhhh huhhhh ;)
Kevin Perez
>According to German dictionary
find a pre 1945 version and see for yourself
the common usage was "cut off / drive out / root out"
here's another passage from the lutheran bible of the time
you'll like it.
>Wenn aber ein Männlicher nicht beschnitten wird an seiner Vorhaut, wird er ausgerottet werden aus seinem Volk, weil er meinen Bund gebrochen hat.
[Das Erste Buch Mose (Genesis) 17:14, Luther Bible]
>But an uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.
[Genesis17:14, New American Standard Bible]
Levi Peterson
You have a point, I guess ausrottung can mean explusion as well. But he also compares the "ausrottung" to:
>to perform our duty as ordered and put comrades who had failed up against the wall and execute them, we also never spoke about it, nor will we ever speak about it.
Furthermore he says it will be:
>and is a glorious chapter that has not and will not be spoken of.
Why wouldn't you speak about Jewish expulsions? This really seems like extermination and not expulsion to me.
Look, I don't know whether you believe what you say, or you think you're lying for a good cause (like the Turks and the Armenian genocide), but maybe you should ask yourself whether or not you want to be associated with an ideology which has the blood of children on its hands.
Brody Walker
Completely the opposite effect of anonymity. Kikes will
All
Die
Ryder Hall
>whether or not you want to be associated with an ideology which has the blood of children on its hands.
I hate judasism as much as the next man, maybe even more. probably more
Parker Nelson
then be better than it
Austin Roberts
The holohoax didn't happen, but even if it did the kikes deserved far worse than what they supposedly went through.
Asher Reyes
>error: command "better" could not be executed. parameters not defined.
Alexander Sanchez
not a thieving mass murdering enslaving scumbag
Blake Diaz
>thieving mass murdering enslaving scumbags
enough talking about the jews Sir Edwards, let's talk about something new
you have any hobbies ?
Kevin Hughes
who is Sir Edwards?
but I have hobbies yes. I am taking up woodwork again. Currently making a saw horse adn then a Bench Bull, so I can mount it on the sawhorse, to give me a small bench to work on (as I have not permanent bench, but do my work in the garden on the terrace) I am doing most stuff with only hand tools. Going to make myself a japanese style toolbox after that, then get down to making some puzzle boxes, and maybe a dulcimer.
but I meant Nazis of course
Dylan Edwards
Big thincc desu. It's definitely become a secondary religion.
Carter Johnson
>I am taking up woodwork again
>do my work in the garden on the terrace
Sounds relaxing, nice.
I've recently taken up fishing again. caught a nice salmon just prior to christmas.
Ayden Ward
This. Us fellow E*ropeans must be morally better than the jews. We can't let ourselves stoop down to their level. *rubs hands*
Josiah Perez
if we fellow europeans just take our time and show the people we're the morally right alternative, everything will work out in the end, just wait and don't do anything rash now. the good guys always win in the end *rubs hands*
Lincoln Ward
>this is the American World Almanac, 1949 edition. Deniers on a regular basis claim that the AWA (which published 1939 data until 1949 because they had no updated data)
Source?
Because that pic isn’t the 1948 version as you’re claiming
Brandon Lee
Funny how all of these “death camps” were somehow only liberated by soviets, and every “death camp” liberated by allies was debunked and proved as internment camps.
Isn’t it funny how there is proof and photographs of soviets erecting chimneys that go to nowhere, and socalled gas chambers post war
Josiah Campbell
fake and gay
Michael Jackson
Himmler was an idiot and my least favorite Nazi so who cares.
Chase Mitchell
The “Extermination Camps” of “Aktion Reinhardt”: An Analysis and Refutation of Factitious “Evidence,” Deceptions and Flawed Argumentation of the “Holocaust Controversies” Bloggers
Carlo Mattogno, Jürgen Graf, Thomas Kues
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Oliver Jenkins
So how come you still haven't been able to produce credible pictures or films of the gas chambers in operation?
Joshua Wright
>So if the Holocaust wasn't real, what about the Posen speeches then?
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Tyler Ortiz
I want Shannon Bream to burn me with a cigarette and force me to cum inside of her.
Austin Davis
Unless you can prove that
>The recording of the speech was genuine
>Himmler turned his words in this speech into actions and wasn't just some retarded blowhard
Then the posen recording isn't proof of anything.
Mason Bennett
>Then the posen recording isn't proof of anything.
On top of the fact that even if the Posen speech was real, there's no evidence to back up the statements made in it.
ex: A person can say that they blew up the moon. Doesn't mean that the moon has actually been blown up.
James Diaz
user do you have any contact info? You seem really intelligent and well versed on this subject
Henry Miller
>user do you have any contact info?
You're kidding, right?
Ethan Lewis
Austin Russell
>ex: A person can say that they blew up the moon. Doesn't mean that the moon has actually been blown up.
Wow, you really convinced me now, the Third Reich was run by lunatics.
Lucas Butler
>Wow, you really convinced me now, the Third Reich was run by lunatics.
Of course you can only believe that if you believe everything the Jews, the greatest enemy of the White race, says about Hitler, the NSDAP and the Holocaust.
Robert Allen
Look at my post history nigger, I just want to learn more
Justin Nguyen
Wow. Hold on. I just found proof that Theodore Kaufmann killed millions of Germans. See? He wrote a whole book about his plans you DENIER! What more proof could you need?!?
Andrew Gonzalez
>Look at my post history nigger, I just want to learn more
Then go to:
holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com
Everything I've learned was from those three sites.
Nicholas Taylor
>Wow. Hold on. I just found proof that Theodore Kaufmann killed millions of Germans. See? He wrote a whole book about his plans you DENIER! What more proof could you need?!?
Speaking of shit like that...
Survivor reveals 1945 plan to kill 6 million Germans
jweekly.com
Funny how exterminationists like frenchie kike never address shit like that.
Dominic Richardson
Theodore Kaufmann wasn't in charge of anything, Himmler was.
Samuel Morales
>Theodore Kaufmann wasn't in charge of anything, Himmler was.
The Improbable and the Impossible in Himmler's Posen Speech
national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
Tyler Lewis
Also, notice how you dismiss it when there's documents showing what the kikes wanted to do to Germany but take everything on face value that the kikes claim the Germans did/wanted to do?
Aiden Rogers
Why did the number shrink so much at auschswitz? Perhaps because people died of Typhus and then were cremate as was common in all camps at the time, which Zyklon B was used to fight since the 1920s? Its clear there was no coordinated plan or extermination. A few admissions of guilt by captured tortured nazis trying to prevent themselves from being executed? The physical proof is lacking. The propaganda was more important than the facts because the zionists wanted to scare europes jews into israel (and it did a large number)
Angel Nelson
The holocaust happened, but it was completely justified.
Asher Roberts
Holocaust deniers are only a few groups:
>People who are denying to troll
>Actual retards
>Actual wannabee nazi fags who know what they're saying is crap but argue it to try get better optics on their gay movement
Nobody with any semblance of critical thought is a denier.
Ian Sanchez
>Nobody with any semblance of critical thought is a denier.
Lies.
Jonathan Nelson
but what if you aren't christian?
Let's say that I view mankind as a higher form of cannibalistic evolution that have control over their own future. Follow that logic through, and it makes sense why people had to die.
Ian Bell
>Also, notice how you dismiss it
I don't dismiss anything. If Kaufmann was second in command in the US like Himmler was in Germany I would take it more seriously. You just can't compare the two.
Luis Brown
A real nazi would celebrate the holocaust
Kevin Ward
holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com
The beauty of Holocaust denial is there's nothing new. It's the same debunked crap posted over and over. Cute, but sad.
Hudson Wood
Don't mistake their denial for lack of celebration. They deny to try move the discussion, not because they're ashamed it occurred.
Jackson Scott
why hello there ADL member
David Ramirez
The troops on the right are Croatian troops.
Jacob Peterson
>Everyone with an opinion I don't like is retarded
You have shown me the error of my ways, good sir. A few moments ago I was convinced that only hard evidence of a "holocaust" could persuade me that my views might be wrong but it was your timely and witty name calling that brought me around. Bravo.
Sebastian Adams
>I don't dismiss anything. If Kaufmann was second in command in the US like Himmler was in Germany I would take it more seriously. You just can't compare the two.
Even though the Holocaust didn't happen and the posen speech is bullshit.
Joseph Cruz
>hehe i posted the shill meme, i'm clever
These threads might as well just be bots copy-pasting the exact same replies. I love how Jow Forums talks about NPCs and lack the awareness to see they're the same thing.
Adrian Brown
>/holocaustcontroversies
The “Extermination Camps” of “Aktion Reinhardt”: An Analysis and Refutation of Factitious “Evidence,” Deceptions and Flawed Argumentation of the “Holocaust Controversies” Bloggers
Carlo Mattogno, Jürgen Graf, Thomas Kues
Noah Rodriguez
Ty
Oliver Rivera
Why should I care if 6 million jews did die, when countless more whites died.
No-one got a pinned down number of ww1 and ww2. No-one really knows.
And yet whites are endlessly lectured about ''dah jews''.
Grow up.
Dominic Baker
>I love how Jow Forums talks about NPCs and lack the awareness to see they're the same thing.
Hey, you're the one that believes everything the Jew tells him without question.
Carter Turner
>implyin “nazi” is not a jewish word
>implyin germans called themselves “nazi”
Burger/10
Connor Ortiz
>Ty
You're welcome.
Juan Rogers
>everyone with an opinion I don't like is retarded
No, no, no. See that's not what I said. What I said is YOUR opinions are retarded. Some people like green more than blue. That's an opinion I don't share but it's valid. There's mountains of hard evidence. You just don't like it so you pretend it's not. Basically pic related
Brayden Thomas
Jose Powell
You're allowed to care about both! We have great estimates for both wars. And people care about the Holocaust because it was systematic genocide, not war.
Evan Flores
>There's mountains of hard evidence.
Nah. You can't even produce a photo or film of the gas chambers in operation and they were supposedly responsible for the murder of 20 million people.
Angel Smith
>Source: Jewish Statistical Bureau of The Synagogue Council of America
>no u bigot the jews aren't lying it says right here on this paper written by jews
Hahahahaha
Bonus:
Understand the holohoax psyop and what jews have done to the West post-WW2.
Read through this thread, it's all there...
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Redpilling normies is the ONLY battle that matters now. Redpill them and the rest will work itself out.
Anthony Hughes
You mean that "rationalwiki" tier website of yours that claims that the word "special" is a synomyn for "exterminate"?
I'll be sure to inform the next member of the US "special" forces that i meet, or the Britsh "special" air service that they should consider a name change. You know, in case it confuses people.
Logan Lewis
>And people care about the Holocaust because it was systematic genocide,
Because the Jews say so. And they throw you into prison if you disagree.
Leo Morales
yolocaust. lolocaust
Grayson Sullivan
So you just repeat your talking points without even engaging in discussion. Like a shill.
Christian Barnes
>if you can't post film of live usage of the chambers it's all fake
That's not how it works. Then when people show you aerial footage and camp photos you lie and pretend they're not real / different location / not REALLY the Holocaust. It's quite sad.
Did you submit that thinking it was clever? Lol.
They don't throw you into prison for disagreeing. They throw you into prison for intentionally trying to stir up racism and hate crime attempts. Let's not conflate the two. And only the west treats the Holocaust as their symbol of a terrible crime. Because we committed it. China doesn't focus on the Holocaust, they focus on Japan for WW2. Your poor education isn't society's fault.
Parker Cox
>So you just repeat your talking points without even engaging in discussion.
There is no discussion. The Holocaust is a hoax. If you shill the holocaust happening here, you're a tool of the Jews and an anti-White faggot.
Go to the mainstream internet if you want to whine about the poor Jews and their precious shoah.
Jason Nelson
>Then when people show you aerial footage and camp photos you lie and pretend they're not real / different location / not REALLY the Holocaust. It's quite sad.
Actually, we prove it's bullshit.
Air Photo Evidence: World War Two Photos of Alleged Mass Murder Sites Analyzed
Camden Wilson
apparently human soap was a thing
Matthew Evans
>prove it's bullshit
>by performing a false "analysis"
>with no citations, evidence, or proof
>just "EXCEPT THAT WAS FALSE!"
That's not how that works. There's a reason there's a process to receive validation as an authentic source requires scrutiny, friend.
Charles King
>They don't throw you into prison for disagreeing.
They throw you into prison for not agreeing that it happened.
If it happened, they wouldn't need to throw anyone into prison.
>trying to stir up racism and hate crime attempts
In other words, Whites wanting to know the truth and tell the truth about the Jews.
>And only the west treats the Holocaust as their symbol of a terrible crime.
The Jews control the West...
>Because we committed it
Yes, you are to have the eternal White Guilt of the Shoah and always feel bad and protect the Jews.
Joseph Baker
Which requires scrutiny*