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What are your thoughts and experiences with it, what is the relationship between Jow Forums and stormfront and how has it not been taken down for good yet in this age of rampant censorship?

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I think Stormfront has a good archive. I think Don Black should be understood as a trailblazer and torch bearer during a time when it was hard to keep our ideas alive.

>What are your thoughts
Western Europeans are inferior to Eastern Europeans. White genocide is driven by the Western European guilty complex. I'll have nothing to do with West European groups.

my thoughts? AA isn't afraid to lie to convince his teenage target demo. Because I've read AA's own words, where he instructs people to twist truth, I do not support them. Regardless, AA is a decent foil for the coming global corporate censorship dictatorship

I had a good time there and made a lot of friends. They had some drama and now it isn't as active as it used to be.

Your average Jow Forums poster is blissfully unaware that the seeds of racialism were sown here by a covet propaganda operation known as Swarmfront a number of years ago, a hidden board on Stormfront which was intended to make converts to the White Nationalist ideology (I presume somebody still has the screenshots to prove this). The parrots who endlessly repeat the rubbish about race and I. Q. and praise Adolf Hitler and all the rest of it have no idea that they are nothing more than mouthpieces for an ideology that was brainwashed into their heads in the first place, and which is now continuously strengthened via a vicious cycle of irrational reinforcement.

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Nobody here cares you fucking Kike. Nice bait thread though.

Does it still have any power or influence now? The one or two times I looked at it it seemed like a dead old forum of boomers who can't into modern meme culture and are stuck in the Hollywood skinhead neo-nazi stereotype

Don Black is a goddamn hero. He tried to invade Dominica.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Red_Dog

It never had any power or influence. It was once a place where some people with power and influence used to visit, though. I do not know if that is still the case.

unless they were around in like 04 this was at least extremely fertile ground for them to work with before they showed up

So compared to how fringe white nationalism was back then, our ideas are basically mainstream nowadays?

2004 is really pushing it. Jow Forums turning racialist is comparatively speaking extremely recent. It only began some time after /new/ was created in 2011. I was in the Habbo Hotel raid in 2006 and I don't remember a speck of racialism at that time, everybody was making themselves look black for that raid because they saw nothing wrong in being black. All the stuff which Jow Forums parrots now is a direct result of the Swarmfront operation.

honestly not useful and not productive

Jow Forums took a turn into radical right wing politics in about 2014 and has managed to accomplish more in 5 years than stormfront did in about 20. its pathetic and they are a bastion of Nazi/National Socialist ideas that will never be popular in Western Europe/North America.

Andrew Anglin isn't part of stormfront

full of JIDF FBI CIA ETC ETC

But : like pol, the chaotic nature of the disscussions lets common people encounter ideas and thoughts that make them change how they behave, little by little. Changing one pixel on the canvas of society.

And so it was banned as this 'little guy' effect is more powerful ultimately, than the psy-ops etc, or some random faggot being a terrorist.

So What You're Really Saying Is, that Jow Forums owes a debt of gratitude to Stormfront for influencing our people back into their natural, healthy, racial consciousness.

not really true. this place gets way more traffic than stormfront, they simply don't have the numbers to convert this place. the radicalization was basically homegrown and organic

Race realism is the true way forward. No one comes to this but through research. No one “made” anyone white nationalist, but you’re brainwashed by every institution that it’s wrong. Well done, zombie.

>And so it was banned
Except it's up right now whereas innocuous shit like Infowars keeps getting deleted from everywhere. Must not be thought as very dangerous or useful to our causes then.

They're the bottom of the barrel for white people taking pride in the accomplishments of better men so that they can pretend they aren't a cancer on society.

We really need to purge them.

They have tried very hard to shut down Stormfront and they failed.

Fucking hate stormfaggers. This isn't a politically correct site to begin with , don't need self obsessed power hungry online retards to make it worse. You're brand of right wing think is the other side to the tranny faggot antifa. I can't stand either of you . Jidf and SF deserve each other. There is an issue with wealthy banking Jews, but you stupid Nazi larpers poison the well. A fucking tool of the elites to discredit anything anti Zionist.

You're just a loser faggot.

No one needs a faggot like you anywhere.

I never went on Stormfront, that is a boomer website.

>6 posts in desperately defending his gay little band of butt buddies

How many of your lovers died to overdoses? I'm gonna guess a good number.

We need em.
As shit and cancerous as they are we need all the numbers we can get, cause once the right fractures even faggier losers take its place.

>What are your thoughts and experiences with it,
Posted there for years back in the day before I came to Jow Forums. It helped me become a White Nationalist. There's nothing wrong with the place. Except its lack of activism. Just like Jow Forums.

>what is the relationship between Jow Forums and stormfront
Both are places of free speech.

>and how has it not been taken down for good yet in this age of rampant censorship?
Because it's not sticking out much. They don't advocate anything other than talking with each other. They don't have a figurehead that begs for attention like Daily Stormer.

stormfront is not dangerous to the status quo at all. they just exist as the david duke fan club seriously they do nothing else but praise him

we don't. they don't have any significant real numbers. its the other way around they need us to recruit people into their failing strategy of cheerleading david duke and supporting the kkk.

No, Jow Forums owes Stormfront a debt of opprobrium for having prevented it from fostering a healthy right-wing and patriotic and anti-mass-immigration sentiment without racialism (as with Enoch Powell) and instead leading it to become a caricature of a caricature, for instead causing so many of its posters to become something even worse than the ugliest vilest cartoon of a Neo-Nazi in the most propagandized left-wing Hollywood movie, for having made this board into something that will never have any wide or lasting influence in the real world and which will inevitably defeat its own goals time and time again by shocking the feelings of any person with an ounce of sympathy or humanity in them.

I appreciate Don Black and the stories he tells on Stormfront Radio. What a hell of a life he's had. I don't know why Jow Forumsacks don't call into the show at 8447692944 everyday at 10am EST on the rense radio network?

>and get this, stormfront was actually ON Jow Forums speaking TRUTH, how will Jow Forums ever recover??
Kys

because people feel like it's boomer radio man

i doubt people on Jow Forums even turn in to David Duke's radio

>Hollywood skinhead neo-nazi stereotype
They're actually much more level-headed and anti-hysteria at Stormfront than Jow Forums. You can get banned for saying 'nigger' there.

i got my first real red pill on the JQ 10+ years back on SF btw

It was a comfy hangout for boomers who recognized what was being done to their nations. You could go there every few months and be reassured that you weren't entirely alone in the world. It was a great source of information on any WN-related topic. But it always felt like a fringe site that was content to remain that way. It was not particularly influential. It had no ability to leak into normiespace like Jow Forums, and you couldn't even say nigger. I am glad it existed when it did, but it was ultimately a dead end.

>They're actually much more level-headed and anti-hysteria at Stormfront than Jow Forums. You can get banned for saying 'nigger' there.
And all Nazi imagery is banned.

People like you are no better than the Jow Forums crowd who believe all the utter trash that has been fed to them by the Seduction Community during the past several years; in fact, that ideology invaded that board about the same time as Stormfront ideology came to this one. It is the same situation, brainwashing with memes and infographics which is then viciously circularly reinforced by a community that will not listen to reason and is religiously convinced of its own opinions.

>What are your thoughts and experiences with it
they got /new/ shut down by moot with their wall-to-wall spamming. fuck the stormweenies

>what is the relationship between Jow Forums and stormfront
they're weenies who think they're welcome, but they aren't
>how has it not been taken down for good yet in this age of rampant censorship?
cointelpro like Dickie Spencer? fuck if i know

Yeah that is the irony, apparent even stormfront doesn't purity spiral like Jow Forums does.

we owe them a swift kick in their teenie weenies for shitting up /new/

Stormfront wasn't bad but it got shoa'd years ago. The (((Daily Stormer))) that replaced it is a honeypot

That's how MPC is now.

>fuck the stormweenies
As opposed to you Republican Conservatives, right?

>teenie weenies
What are you, 12?

no, i say fuck them too, but for different reasons

Whatever the case might be, they were right about everything. So why should i even care about it?

Truth will be truth, no matter who says or tells it.

problem, stormweenie?

>brainwashing Jow Forums
>with truth
Whatever floats your boat faggot

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Funny. You probably believe that Jews were responsible for feminism and socialism, control the Bank of England, "bought Britain after Waterloo," started the First and Second World Wars, and caused the death of every white civilization in history, don't you?

Jow Forums had become insufferably lefty by 2012, with Anonymous making apology pieces for Muslims in the Middle East, not to mention all of the CP on /b/. Cuck boy could have ruined it all for a few shekels at that point. Thankfully we finally broke free of the conditioning, and the current owner is a mature guy who lives outside the (((West))) and pretends to not understand English whenever journalist-propagandists come knocking. I don't know how we got so lucky.

>problem, stormweenie?
Anti-White.

>t. 14.88 IQ stormweenie

It is pretty funny, I was reading a thread on there about "do you hold doors for people other than whites" & like 50% of the comments were boomer on facebook-tier shit just peppered with Stormfrontisms e.g. "Yeah I do an Aryan should be a gentleman, and perhaps they can learn from the white man's courteousness and manners."

>if I put "you probably believe" in front of a bunch of things that are actually true, then believing those things are true is absurd
t. Juden

That just makes it sound like the contrarianism meme is real and Jow Forums will always be against popular consensus, as I even remember from the Bush/Blair years.

It was a great Billy Joel album...
We Didnt Start The Fire was on it

Well said

Seething kike detected

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I would have come to Jow Forums sooner if I hadn't seen such granular racism ("are Poles white? here's a fancy chart...") when I first checked it out. Once it died down I started reading it regularly.

why do you centrist mongs always have to make Britain look bad posting this effeminate, sentimental bollocks on Jow Forums?
>Enoch Powell
Did absolutely nothing
Don't encourage him, he's an embarrassment to his Anglo-Saxon genetic heritage
and both of you
READ SIEGE

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It is boomer radio, but there's particular charm to it. Slower paced, especially with Don's post-stroke baritone southern-drawl. The callers really make the show. I wish I were a drawfag or had the ability to make Stormfront Radio: The Animated Series.

The David Duke show is absolutely required listening for just about everybody who browses this board.

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Yes I do.
>the bank of england
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_banking_family_of_England
>feminism
The frankfurt school
>socialism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx
>caused ww2
Britain declared war on germany, not the other way around.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Hore-Belisha

Don't know much about the whole "buying england after waterloo" part but I'll get right on to reading about it, thanks.

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Jews had literally no presence in ancient Greece, were social outcasts with no political influence in Rome, and yet those civilizations fell entirely of their own accord; not a single really significant figure in the history of socialism or feminism before the middle of the nineteenth century was a Jew (see Saint-Simon and Owen in the former case, Bentham and Wollstonecraft in the latter); the Bank of England is owned by the state; Rothschild "buying England after Waterloo" is literally propaganda from a pamphlet first published in the 1840s, and is completely false, nor did anybody ever so much as suggest it before that date; Britain being the "centre of the kike Empire" as is often suggested here makes absolutely no sense, since we fought against Napoleon, who was one of the greatest philosemites in history; the First World War was caused by the Austrian Ultimatum, the latter by Hitler's reckless invasion of Czechoslovakia and Poland; do I need to go on?

Are you aware that the Jewish conspiracy to destroy the white race is about as old as a theory as the twentieth century, and that it is mostly due to Adolf Hitler? That if you go to Google Books right now and try to find anybody talking about it in the 19th century or before, you will find literally nothing? Were our ancestors just idiots? Pray, tell me.

Thats not how propaganda works.

This is the strangest thread bumping technique on here I've seen yet

Based and redpilled.

stormfront redpilled me on virtually everything, some of the posters there were/are god-tier. I hardly visit anymore these days, Jow Forums has effectively replaced it.

>en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_banking_family_of_England

To substantiate the idea that the Rothschilds own the bank of England, you post a link to Wikipedia talking about the Rothschild banking family. Not even an excerpt to indicate what you think is relevant. It's as if I claimed aliens ruled the world and then tried to prove it by posting a link to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_life.

>The frankfurt school

The roots of feminism go all the way back to Musonius Rufus and Plato in antiquity and continue onward to Bentham, Condorcet and Wollstonecraft in the 18th century and Anna Wheeler and William Thompson in the 19th. To go all the way forward to the 20th century to prove that Jews are responsible for feminism is utterly absurd.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx

The same is true of socialism. It has its roots in the Gracchi in antiquity and so carries forward to Saint-Simon, Fourier, Robert Owen etc. long before you get to Marx.

>Britain declared war on germany, not the other way around.

After Hitler's reckless aggression and breaking of agreements, yes.

Stormfront also has an opposing views section where liberal shitheads are free to post without having to become members.

>Are you aware that the Jewish conspiracy to destroy the white race is about as old as a theory as the twentieth century, and that it is mostly due to Adolf Hitler? That if you go to Google Books right now and try to find anybody talking about it in the 19th century or before, you will find literally nothing? Were our ancestors just idiots? Pray, tell me.
Jews were banned from entering Norway up until the 1850s. The norwegian constitution in it's original form from 1814 specifically mentions jews as unwanted in the kingdom. This is written in paragraph2, also known as the jew paragraph. The reasons for denied entry are listed as "jews pose a threat to equality, freedom and unity of the state."
Jews have had restricted access to the kingdom since 1687 for the very same reasons.

Take your filthy lying kike mouth elsewere jew.

Stormfront will spark WW3
ROLL

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That might have been the best section on the forum. You could just sit there and watch as the lefty talking points got systematically dismantled. A highly effective tactic at winning people over, myself included.

>People on stormfront never went to other places
Wew lad.

ok mordecai

>no sources
>all assertions
Let's see some documentation
>Are you aware that the Jewish conspiracy to destroy the white race is about as old as a theory as the twentieth century
You mean the specific current plan to destroy the white race, which was uncovered by the leaking of the Protocols (go ahead and squeal FAWJERRRYYYY you JIDF nonce)

>rubbish about race and I. Q.
Prove that racial disparities in IQ are are "rubbish".

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By the way you talk it seems the feature is no longer available. Is this true? Would like to go there and witness this.

I knew you were distorting reality before I even went to look for the truth about your comment. I am well aware that persecution of Jews before the 20th century was virtually always religiously-based, and I find no exception here.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew_clause

"The Evangelical-Lutheran religion is the state's public religion. The inhabitants who practice it are obliged to raise their children in the same. Jesuits and monastic orders may not be tolerated. Jews are excluded from access to the Kingdom."

Observe that. It is standard religious persecution, nothing about any Jewish conspiracies. The fact that persecution of Jews was so religiously-based is exactly why America's secular Founding Fathers saw nothing wrong in Jews. Hence why Thomas Jefferson expressed “regret at seeing a sect [the Jews], the parent and basis of all those of Christendom, singled out for persecution and oppression.” Hence why he told De La Motta that he was delighted to see American Jews assuming full social rights and hoped “they will be seen taking their seats on the benches of science as preparatory to their doing the same at the board of government.” George Washington had the same sort of points of view. I will not be uncivil enough to call you a liar, but you certainly are a typical case of thoughtless Swarmfront brainwashing.

Can someone explain this symbol to me? Why is there a cross in the middle?

Everything I wrote in that post is easily verified. Try to refute a single fact if you can. Find, for example, a significant Jew in the history of socialism or feminism before the mid-nineteenth century, somebody on the same level as Jeremy Bentham or Robert Owen.

You know how there’s a lot of idiots on Jow Forums but there’s also some pretty smart people?
Well stormfront reads exactly like one of our idiots, and not one of our intellectuals.
What I’m saying is: stormfront sound like it was written by a 16 year old nazi larper who still thinks kekistan is cool.

pretty much, and I'm thankful for that. If some of these people were the least bit clever they'd probably have a greater share of popular opinion

but then, if ANY of them were clever their own supporters would probably brand them as "controlled opposition."' That's just how it goes when you're a red-blooded conspiretard

>Everything I wrote in that post is easily verified
Yet you're dodging my request for you to verify it
>Why don't you research the list of spurious claims I made, unless you do they're true
That's not how the burden of proof works

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The opposing views section is still there, and the archives are chock full of information. I speak in the past tense because I haven't been active on the site in years.

I visit every day. Since there's moderation, shills, Jews, etc. are very few compared to here.
It was down for a month after Charlottsville because the domain was seized.
I'm more amazed that Jow Forums is still working.

You didn't read the first link, it specifically mentions agreements and control of the bank of england.
>"reee someone did it before the jews did it"
With this kind of arguing you could argue that we should blame jews for islamic terrorism, since you invented that to begin with aswell.
"Depending on how broadly the term is defined, the roots and practice of terrorism can be traced at least to the 1st-century AD Sicarii Zealots, though some dispute whether the group, which assassinated collaborators with Roman rule in the province of Judea, was in fact terrorist. "
>"reee hitler broke the agreements"
He freed the enslaved and plundered german people from their slave-light reparations plundering "agreements". Fuck off.
WRONG
>"Begrunnelsen var politisk: Jodene ble utelukket på grunn av sine politiske meninger og en forestilling om at de danner en stat i staten. Falsen hevdet at joder aldri kunne bli gode borgere av noen stat hvor joder ikke regjerer. Blant liberale intellektuelle var det i kjolvannet av opplysningstiden sterk skepsis til jodedommen fordi de mente at de jodiske presteskapet fremmet en ureformert filosofi som holdt den jodiske befolkningen nede i kunnskapsloshet og fattigdom."

And why did you delete your post? Slimy fucking kike. Your pathetic attempts to derail facts don't work here. All you achieve is pissing me off so I'm going to post holohoax debunking in 10 other threads now just to weigh up for it.

It is so easy for you to expose me as a liar. All you have to do is go to Google Books right now, for example, and put in keywords like "Jewish conspiracy" until you find somebody, anybody, talking about Jews in that way before the 20th century. Or again, go to any history of feminism or socialism and find somebody Jewish before the date specified who is a significant figure in those movements, as I said. Or find evidence of the presence of Jews in ancient Greece before the Hellenistic era. Or show a contemporary source, even a person before the pamphlet I mentioned, claiming that Rothschild "bought England after Waterloo." Anything. Just refute anything. One single thing.

your post sounds like it was written by a 16 year old and you're obviously not familiar with JohnJoyTree. JohnJoyTree was a scientist who used to post high quality material on stormfront before passing away. stay assblasted mutt and RIP one of the best posters to ever grace an internet forum.

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Too many stupid people cant see this and then they get their faggy little feelings hurt when their larp fails

Understand the holohoax psyop and what jews have done to the West post-WW2.

Read through this thread, it's all there...

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/193822743/

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/193822743/

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/193822743/

Redpilling normies is the ONLY battle that matters now. Redpill them and the rest will work itself out.


>Mayer Amschel Rothschild
Head of the Rothschilds banking cartel, now in control of worlds central banks.

>Paul Warburg
Basically started the Federal Reserve

>Alexandre Lamfalussy
Started the European Central Bank

>Paul Julius Freiherr von Reuter
Head of Reuters, now almost all western media is in direct control of jews

>Magnus Hirschfeld
Founded the first ever group to advocate for and push homosexuality, transgenderism and other sexual perversions in the early Weimar Republic.

>Al Goldstein
Normalized modern hardcore pornography

>George Soros
This jew has done too much to list...

>Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi
Founded the Pan-European union (pre-EU) and declared that the future race of europe will be mixed.

>Karl Marx
Invented marxism. Marx is mentioned in the speech "JFK: the President and The Press" if you're interested.

This is only a small sample of what these people are responsible for.

>Why do liberals desperately want as much immigration as possible from low IQ countries?
Pawns of the jew.

It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of border-less, race-less, culture-less, identity-less, subdued sheep. They make up 0.25% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.

In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and to discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the past and present in that effort.

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:
>youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Why people are afraid of the facts about the Jews:
>youtube.com/watch?v=-iU9kf2EHJw

Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
>youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice explained:
>youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why we are in decline - Cultural Marxism:
>youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

The Jewish role in the refugee crisis:
>youtube.com/watch?v=IfCOO7Z39j0

Leftist subversion explained by former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov:
>youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA

The full history of Jewish subversion in the west:
>youtube.com/watch?v=EwjTm4ncWnY

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:
>youtube.com/watch?v=_Aa3Wu6ocV0
>youtube.com/watch?v=sst5Z5_5akg

Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:
>youtube.com/watch?v=hvNNtBmA3SQ

The Jewish role in the porn industry:
>youtube.com/watch?v=gwd_Iofr6ZQ

People here totally underestimate just how significant stormfront was back in the day. It was THE site for open discussions about all of these subjects and these guys went on other forums too, such as this one. What people here think are "cutting edge red pills" are actually very old and well known and were discussed frequently on stormfront.

To absolutely prove this I will provide three links to rather old yet large sticky threads that examine everything from racial biology, to differences in racial perception and all the way to self-criticism of White Nationalist arguments.

> Evidence that Racial Groupings Match Real Genetic Profiles
stormfront.org/forum/t182050/
>Contrasting white racial identity in American And Eurasian contexts: a suggestion
stormfront.org/forum/t89013/
> Bad Arguments Used By White Nationalists
stormfront.org/forum/t120656/

I challenge any of you to read through some of these and look at the posts and links contained within and not come away with a sense that these guys knew their fucking shit and were very good at what they did back in a day where the opinions and facts you all take for granted were seriously controversial and not tolerated at all. A big part of the reason you likely know about any of this racial biology shit, alternative WW2 facts or facts about Jewish extremist hate groups as well as counter points to marxism and post modernism is because of the hard work and research of these internet fags. You should at least show some fucking respect.

Everything you wrote is easily falsified.

You are a Sand Nigger Jew.

lol

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>talking about Jews in that way before the 20th century
Here's just one example that immediately came to mind
>Cicero - "The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power they exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and deceivers"
And you call me a liar, kek. You're trying to pretend nobody was onto the Jews in history, ever, until the 20th century? Did all the countries that kicked them out prior to the 20th century do so silently, without ever discussing WHY they wanted to pursue that course of action? There you go, anyway. One of your many flimsy points, decimated. As you asked. Now shut your filthy kike mouth and fuck off

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there is no relationship with stormfront. stormweenies are literal actual unironic glow in the dark niggers, spooks, and 80 IQ trailer trash. They also ban any type of pol humor, and anything at all know 100% sanctioned by the KKK. I rather ally with The Young Turks than Stormweenies. Jow Forums has zero relationship with that site, never has, and never will. Their anthologies are utterly unrelated.

Start by proving one single thing
>go through 2000 years of history to verify my claims for me
How about you stop being such a retarded faggot and back up your claims?

Bunch of faggots and braindead morons.
Convince me otherwise

Here's an interesting post.

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