Guess some mod got butthurt that I'm pointing out that none of you are ubermensch and you have adapted the argumentative tactics of the Jew.
>The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
>Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying. Gradually I began to hate them.
Guess some mod got butthurt that I'm pointing out that none of you are ubermensch and you have adapted the...
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Actually this reminds me of how people argue here
That's because it's not the argumentative tactic of just Jews, it's the argumentative tactic of a liar in general.
I wonder why they might have to lie about Adolf Hitler or the Nazis.
Those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it.
Literally had one in the previous thread deny that Mein Kampf was the written word of Hitler.
It's astounding. I'm truly... Thunderstruck.
Yeah, but it's probably because they're Jews.
What exactly is wrong with this quote, or the content of Mein Kampf in general?
Looks like the neo nazis can't defend themselves!
Oops!
I am willing to bet cash money, right now, that the majority of you larping faggots have never even read Mein Kampf.
Kill yourselves. Do it for... Him.
I'm using Hitler's own words to display to his supposed "followers" that they engage in the same tactics and dishonesty as the race they are supposed to shun and be nothing like, all while being completely unaware of it.
It's almost comical. Adolf Hitler's opinion on the majority of you would have been quite low, rest assured. Hitler loved men of action, men who did. Men of integrity. You notice that's something pretty much every poster here seems to be lacking?
Hitler would fucking hate you disgraceful faggots.
>Any time someone is dishonest it's a Jew!
>A world-wide population so small you could fit them into Rhode Island with room to spare
>but it's surely a jew, only jews lie!
Jesus, you drank the kool-aid hard.
That's because this place is a shithole, and it's that way on purpose. Discussions are rare these days. It used to be much different, but after the election that all changed. It's like you're shrinking back when you find piss in a urinal.
This place has always been a shithole, even before it was Jow Forums
Let's not bullshit like Jews here.
I don't know if you've noticed, but this is actually stickied to the board.
>i.4cdn.org
I don't know if you've noticed, but blaming it on the jews the way you did is a logical fallacy in and of itself.
Don't throw stones in glass houses.
Oh, I think you misunderstand. I don't deny that there are absolute and irredeemable NPC's that post here. Do you deny that both NGO's such as JIDF and ShareBlue, and governmental organizations such as the IDF shit up the board to prevent purposeful discussion?
Stop and think about what you just said for a second.
This place is a hotbed of anti-Jewish sentiment and you're really shocked or surprised something like the JIDF exists?
I'm not shocked or surprised, that's your inference. For all your criticism you're shit at argumentation yourself. Once again:
>i.4cdn.org
Not being white isn't a flaw.
No man alive or dead has achieved the status of being Nietzsche's Ubermensch. It is a goal to strive towards.
>posting a jew
>whining about jews
We're not arguing. We could begin arguing, if you'd like?
And if this is indeed an argument, I suppose I must point out that you are attempting to change the subject away from what we were originally discussing: that neo nazis on this board regularly resort to the same argumentative tactics outlined by mein fuhrer in the truly Biblical Mein Kampf.
Shareblue or JIDF or whatever you want to name posting here is irrelevant to the topic at hand. Do I think they exist? Absolutely. It's just not relevant. Stop trying to change the subject (like the Jews in Mein Kampf!)
Go away now.
you cheeky bastard
i c wut u did thar
>We're not arguing.
Then you don't know what an argument is. When a claim is made, you are attempting to advance an argument. You thinking I'm just going to let you strawman me into oblivion is a false fucking assumption. I seriously do not like you.
You didn't like me from the very beginning because I called you on your bullshit.
You're acting awfully high and mighty for somebody who clearly doesn't understand how debate works. We weren't debating.
Feel free to point out the strawman at any time.
You shills are fucking weird. These memes are terrible. Christ.
>perfect description of an autist sperging out while talking to a non-autist
Oh yeah, and you're trying to change the topic yet again. Stop that!
this:
and this:
Are you deliberately trying to waste my time?
Jow Forums.gov is a semitic platform op
Those aren't strawmans. They're just refutations to your points.
user just because you don't like what somebody has to say doesn't mean it is automatically wrong.
I also really hope you have enough self-inflection to reflect on these words:
You are flaunting yourself as some kind of intellectual while championing one of the most idiotic ideologies next to communism, accusing others of logical fallacy while engaging in them yourself and persistently trying to change the subject. You have engaged in, including:
loaded question
tu quorque
strawman
no true scotsman
genetic
Want to keep going you petulant waste of organic material, or must we continue to dance?
>Those aren't strawmans. They're just refutations to your points.
No they aren't. You're literally stupid.
>loaded question
>tu quorque
>strawman
>no true scotsman
>genetic
I was just curious so I engaged you. But I'm now certain you're just deliberately wasting my time. I'm glad that's settled. Because no one could be this stupid.
I was being nice. You didn't actually make any points. You accused every dishonest post ever to use this argumentative tactic as being "probably Jews."
You asked a question. I answered it.
You then said this place was a shithole. I corrected you that it has always been a shithole. You also asked a loaded question while making some delusional mention of other people being "NPCs"
I casually replied that it's kind of strange that you can't understand why the Jewish Internet Defense Force might want to monitor an active neo-nazi hotbed...
And that's when you started getting hostile and revealing your arrogant, conceited nature:
I particularly loved that little insult out of nowhere about my argumentative skills about an argument that was only perceived from your end, and anybody who follows the chain of replies logically can see that.
At that point you started becoming more and more hostile and bizarre before triumphantly declaring yourself some kind of victor in a debate that literally never even happened.
Yikes.
>You accused every dishonest post ever
No I didn't. I basically said that when someone engages in this line of argumentation, that they're probably Jewish, as in there's a good chance they're a Jew. I just can't keep going back and forth with you when you continuously misrepresent me. FYI what Hitler is describing in that quote is called pilpul.
>At that point you started becoming more and more hostile and bizarre
It's called giving up. For instance, I only read like 1/3 of that post. Have a good night man.
I quoted the post where you said it was Jews.
I'll quote it again.
>Yeah but it's probably because they're Jews
Why are you lying like a Jew?
You're not giving up due to any fault of mine, I assure you. What a pathetic cop-out. If your points are as secure you will successfully argue them. But you don't have any points. Do you?
You're acting like a Jew.
That's what I thought bitch. This is my house. Step down.
Cute how it went from "I really don't like you !!! grrrrr!!!!" to "Have a great night man!!!!"
Get rekt and don't forget to go fuck yourself you disingenuous little clown.
Dude it's clear that you're not trying to gain any kind of insight and I can't bare the cognitive dissonance irradiating from your core. Hitler is describing pilpul. Therefore, the quote is legitimate. HAVE A NICE DAY.
It's so cute how your tone changes suddenly when you've been beaten logically!
How you behave as a caricature of Hitler's Jew so well! And you're a Nazi!
Look at you trying to turn yourself into a victim whilst simultaneously still desperately trying to put yourself on top with your passive-aggressive bullshit.
You can't bare the cognitive dissonance coming from me, huh?
I'm not the one idolizing the man and the ideology he formed while having to tell my 56% ass that I'm "one of the good ones" and "Hitler would love me."
By the way, it started out as a conversation.
You turned it into a debate and took the gloves off. I did too.
You lost. Funny how that works, isn't it? Sad it won't make you realize what a retarded piece of shit you are for unironically parading yourself as a Nazi.
And thus, I believe, my points have been proved.
Such a lovely day.
Calm down Mr. Moward.
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Twis whats I'm sayin bro. We can't even agree on what an argument is kek. So how's your night goin? Where does this hostility even come from? You a member of the tribe?
>Another Jow Forums infographic
Yeah I'm sure he said that. First time someone has actually made me physically roll my eyes.
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Since you're so interested in the words of Rabbi Harry Waton, perhaps you would like to hear the rest of his philosophy?
Norse-Germanic and Swiss.
Almost sounds like a sandwich, doesn't it?
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is this thread for your masters degree in Pilpul?
Considering it has been everybody else in this thread actively engaging in this "pilpul" and you're the only one of the two of us who even knew what it meant prior to this thread I'm going to have to infer that you are actually a Jew and that your post is simply a bait-and-switch tactic that won't work.
Perhaps you'd like to go read up on the words of Rabbi Harry Waton and how he compares National Socialism to "Judaism-wannabe-ism" (wording mine)?
In all seriousness, my problem is my memory went to fucking chunks after I got a vaccine, as an adult.
I do the above all the time, because I'm living in some multiple personality type shit.
Oh well.
It's almost like you guys depend on gullible idiots not fact checking these "info"graphics and taking them at face value
Searching Harry Waton for that particular quote turns up zero results but does turn up a view that Judaism is a "philosophy" that the national socialist party hoped to imitate.
And you're quoting him in favor of your ideology.
Yikes.
In all seriousness, this board has IDs you fucking newfag lurk moar.
Yeah I wasn't sure about that one myself but it's legit.
>mailstar.net
There are a few fake quotes that get passed around.
>Judaism is a "philosophy" that the national socialist party hoped to imitate
Well it sort of is, I mean I guess it can be construed that way. In respect to forming a true fraternal bond. This is something the jews have always had that we are desperately lacking. If that's what he means by it then I agree with him.
IMO That's the argumentative tactic of anyone over 30 years old. People who have believed something for their whole lives will not admit they were wrong so even when proven wrong they just can't admit it. The older they are the more they will be stuck who they are.
...It's real and it just gets worse. They actually did this guy a service NOT putting the rest of it on there, because he sounds absolutely fucking insane.
Wow. Legit lolling right now. It just makes me wonder though: if you have something this disgusting and reprehensible why would you even need to make shit up?
Of course the only places I can find the entire book aren't exactly reputable so I would have to buy a physical copy of this book and read it myself but... wow. Big if true.
Don't send them here, it's bad enough with all the Dominicans.
Found you a copy kek. How bad you wanna know?
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The text appears to be the same across multiple sources.
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This board has IDs? What the fuck are you trying to say?
Nah, I noticed that Amazon listing. I search everything across multiple platforms when I don't recognize it immediately or need a refresher.
It amazes and astounds me that people can have a search tool at the corner of their window that they can search whatever stupid bullshit they want with virtually no repercussions as long as it isn't kiddie porn, the entire world's worth of knowledge at their fingertips...
and they'd rather make shit up on the Internet and hope nobody notices. This isn't any sort of criticism of you, but I have noticed an overwhelming number of people across all social platforms engaging in the same stupid, fallacious behavior and it buggers me endlessly.
I can't figure out if I love humanity or want to crush it for being so fucking stupid.
Except you literally have just as much reason to lie as the Muslim does, and for the exact same reason. The only difference is that the Muslim wants to fuck your goat while bathed in your blood, while the jew wants to sell your goat while fucking your daughter.
If I give you a (You) will you settle down child?
See, your racism comes through even when you pretend to be caring.
What the fuck is your malfunction kike? I gave no shits about you until you started in on my hide.
Now, I quite seriously want your people away from this country. Allowing you into the US was a mistake.
Racism...?
You should start making some sense soon or I'm just going to block your ID, friend.
Fuck you kike. Block my ID, I'll sit here and explain all the shortcomings of the modern "Jew," and turn the entire US into a sword against your little piss ant desert.
Go ahead, pretend that your core theory of you being racially superior isn't the reason you're acting like an ass-hat.
Any time now, I could be talking to a real human, and instead I get this racist filth who thinks God wants to be known as a racist, a thief, and a murderer.
And instead, I deign myself to talk to your deluded "Jewish" person.
Born of Isaac ain't "Jew," and your blood don't make you good with God. Likud is going to destroy you, and the sociopaths think they're doing better when they're under attack.
Uhh... Cool story? I'm not Jewish. I'm Norse-Germanic and Swiss. Sounds like a sandwich, no?
Your entire post is one large, painful logical fallacy.
You're not Jewish. Great, you're a brainwashed moron who doesn't understand yet.
Now, what, exactly, were you trying to say when you told me to lurk more, non-jew moron?
Yeah you're the chosen one with the special knowledge and we're all simpletons.
That you're a bot, with no memory, literally arguing from a script.
Clever boy.
I'm just sitting here, shaking my head and wondering what exactly is wrong with you?
Are you so far gone that you think other people on the Internet are just bots and that you're the only real person here?
Fucking yikes dude.
Very nice retort, now tell me what you meant, why did you tell me we have ID's? What were you trying to say by telling me the board has IDs?
This, readers, is one of the major weaknesses of the early bots, no memory of their own words.
Yeah it's probably by design desu. The internet has become extremely segregated these past years. When no one's viewpoint is challenged, people don't grow. The echoes bounce off the walls. We're fated to live through interesting times. It's getting to be where opposing views aren't allowed and are outright censored, and people don't respond to reason anymore. You familiar with Yuri?
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It's a burger thing too. Now that burgers are basically jewish.
dude OP regardless of any argumentative skills you've got going for you, you literally have every other post on this thread, indicating that you're either a try-hard faggot or a shill; either way, please go die.
>Why did you tell me we have IDs
Because from the looks of it, it appeared that you were attempting to discredit me by pretending to be me and saying
> In all seriousness, my problem is my memory went to fucking chunks after I got a vaccine, as an adult.
I do the above all the time, because I'm living in some multiple personality type shit.
Oh well.
Now I'm starting to realize I misunderstood and you are genuinely just a little unsettled. My apologies.
>challenged
I hardly consider pasting the same 20-30 shit-tier lolbertarian talking points to be "challenged", let alone "argument".
>le bezmenov meme
Only someone who is invested in defending aristocracy would invoke him when there are clearer causes that don't require a bogeyman narrative. But anything to mask the truth that this, all this, is the logical conclusion of the profit motive.
Nope just trying to keep my thread alive. I'd genuinely like to hear you defend yourselves.
So far only a few of you have really tried. Some of you have come in to call me a kike or a shill and to kill myself or die or some other variation thereof, and even further still most of you are just ignoring the thread hoping it'll 404 soon so you don't have to look at it any more because the truth offends you.
>it appeared that you were attempting to discredit me by pretending to be me
>genuinely just a little unsettled.
You're the one aware that there are IDs?
Phew. Apology accepted. I am quite serious, it might literally be that jews are diabetic, as well. Many of the symptoms like a memory loss you're describing could be attributed to blood sugar.
Wouldn't it be a grand joke, if everything we hated about jews came from their inability to process grains properly as a race?
That instead of getting memory loss and dizzy, they get sociopathic with memory loss.
To add, it's almost exactly like an echo chamber on reddit or whatever stupid shit people are using these days. Same concept, but with different ideas.
It's an echo chamber. Can we at least admit that much?
Can you explain to me how Gillette antagonizing their key demographic was motivated by profits?
>You're the one aware that there are IDs?
Yep. I thought you might not have been aware of it because again, I thought you were engaging in something else instead of just being a loon.
You keep on being looney-tunes, friend.
>Only someone who is invested in defending aristocracy would invoke him
How do you even come to this conclusion? Classic regurgitation.
you got more of this fren?
This one lost the argument and is the jew, the other was smart to walk away top kek desu
not regurgitation, weak logical skills and a shitty debate partner. invokes red herring, probably with full faith that it's factual. how to never agree on anything, always assume what your debate partner is trying to say.
>the neo nazi jumps in to defend the neo nazi
big surprise. Just before you get too cozy you're defending a guy who created an argument where there was only a discussion, turned it into a heated debate, lost that debate and suddenly changed his tone.
Just because I had friendlier words with him later in the thread doesn't give him any validity. Feel free to follow the chain of replies to see that there was in fact no debate to be had, and even if there were, he engaged in a loaded question fallacy twice in a row and then turned around and started accusing other people of engaging in logical fallacy.
But hey, go ahead and defend someone who couldn't really defend it except to pull up some old ass quote from some severely delusional old Jew who somehow miraculously said "Hitler was right!"
I mean, how could I possibly argue with an anecdote?
Capitalist states manage their citizens indirectly through business. That was more about shit-stirring and burying the Gilets Jaunes on social media.
It will all be forgotten as a bad staffing move or some other silly thing, while simply reconfirming everyone's priors.
Great cartoon though
As I see it, all or almost all opposition to any sort of economic populism is rooted in the protection and preservation of the privileged ruling class. I think you're projecting your conversion narrative onto your adversary, which is never a sign of good analysis. Besides, who's to say Bezmenov wasn't creating the very conditions that would destabilize the American people and invoke a civil war by saying what he did?
Hitler wouldn't have wanted any non-criminal white people to kill themselves, stop being a jew
>white
ten to one odds you aren't white.
Why?
Whites account for less than 12% of the world population, that's why. Statistically, you are not white.
You are just some LARPer or some poor brown person who legitimately believes they would have had a place in Hitler's Reich.
>You are just some LARPer or some poor brown person who legitimately believes they would have had a place in Hitler's Reich (as anything other than as a chattel work force, anyway)*
*Revised and expanded!
You're very bad at observing your surroundings. An American supports Hitler, what race are they likely to be? You can narrow it down by a lot. Why would I be an average person in the world? By that logic you believe I'm a 23 year old Chinese man.
>That was more about shit-stirring and burying the Gilets Jaunes on social media.
If only there wasn't a concentrated effort to push the same narrative over and over again I might've bought that...it's social engineering man. Not some acute distraction.
>all or almost all opposition to any sort of economic populism is rooted in the protection and preservation of the privileged ruling class
So you think that Yuri was spinning the public to turn them against the glorious dictatorship of the proletariat? Instead of explaining cultural marxism? I don't know what a conversion narrative is.
Funny you mention that since I've seen a lot of these alt-right, neo-fascist gatherings posted here and there always seems to be an awful lot of brown people showing up to this shit.
get this creepy pedo shit out of here faggot
>a concentrated effort to push the same narrative over and over again
Not mutually exclusive. The "white man bad" narrative just happens to be a reliable sore whose scabs are regularly torn off.
>muh gultural margzism mayamy :DD
The Birch Society, a pro-neoliberal organization, rewarmed the Nazis' "cultural Bolshevism" because they're paid to shill capitalism.
I actually don't see what it is you two are arguing over, I think there must be a misunderstanding.
Well kick them out then.
It's almost like if you fucking idiots could get over the racial superiority bullshit and just focused only on the national socialism aspect of it you might actually be able to successfully rebrand it.
You really really need to drop the racism and call it something else though.
Solidarity between peoples of one nation is a great idea and does work with a society that is already diverse in ethnic backgrounds, because the focus is placed on the country instead.
Might want to cool it with the authoritarianism too, people don't actually like that shit.
Holy shit fuck off schlomo (((drop the racism, big meanie.))) Whenever someone tells you this, be more racist.
>schlomo
I thought I've already established I'm not Jewish?