You realize you will lose this fight right? The Democrats have nothing to lose with maintaining the shutdown while Trump has everything to lose in an upcoming election year.
All the polls show that Trump's approval rating is falling and they blame him along with the GOP as the cause of the shutdown, not Democrats.
All Democrats have to do is say, we will discuss border security and the wall separately and our main goal to reopen the government and put people back to work.
She's so kawaii! I'm going to register Democrat since the Republicans and the "men" of the far right haven't accomplished a single fucking thing of significance since they lost the American Civil War which was an epically failed LARP.
Luis Cox
Oh man, just wait until the economy contracts and Job numbers for January and even February come in. This will affect the econmy
Trump will even be in deeper shit and it will be glorious. There is a lot of money in government contracts in the private sector and some entities rely entirely on them. Wait for TSA and Air Traffic control callouts and quitting to start slowing down travel that every business relies on.
Democrats want to make sure these people stay employed while Trump who had two years of a GOP congress decides there is a sudden emergency and want these people out of a job and takes a sadistic pleasure in that fact. Everyone sees through the bullshit and realize from Trump its just a political ploy. 2 years of congress and did squat with it.
>The Washington Post-ABC News poll found that 53 percent of respondents believe Trump and the GOP are mainly responsible for the funding lapse, compared to 29 percent who say congressional Democrats are at fault.
>nothing to lose Except generations of bureaucratic expansion. The longer the government is shut down, the more true conservative policies are implemented. It would normally take decades to shut down a whole department. Now it will only take us a month. Rick Perry campaigned on shutting down DOE. Dems laughed when he became SoE. What do you think he's going to do with it now?
Colton Perry
Your response is irrelevant. Emergency powers do not require popular support.
Liam Gray
BIG TIDDY LATIN GF 2020
Jaxson Garcia
>All the polls show that Trump's approval rating is falling and they blame him along with the GOP as the cause of the shutdown, not Democrats. Literally no working man or woman in the whole of America gives a fuck that the government has shut down. Theres literally zero fucking effect. I can't wait until these bloodsucking govt workers get in the soup lines with the rest of their ilk. Fuck them.
Parker Evans
>All Democrats have to do is say, we will discuss border security and the wall separately
They didn't ask for a discussion they asked for a wall. This is the discussion.
Brayden Thomas
Dems have everything to lose when pic related happens.
In 3 dayz trump can fire 4000000 gub employs. That's worth 10 wallz shill.
Mason Diaz
These people are such a small fraction of the labor force, and their primary job is making it more difficult for everyone else to do business. What will you do when the economy gets stronger? Will you finally admit thay government spending doesn't accomplish anything?
Connor Russell
>Democrats >nothing to lose you keep telling yourself just that
Christian Martinez
I dont now whats real anymore on this site, but I assume troll
Jonathan King
I actually liked her at first, but it's just getting too much. Why is there so much of her. Left is obsessed, right is obssessed. I'm just getting tired of her.
Jeremiah Stewart
Eat my fuc dick 4 brains and take ya horse faced spic cunt with you
Benjamin Gutierrez
Umm, yeah I'll believe 538 when they properly predict the 2016 election.
Good try sweetie.
Luis Reed
Obviously responding to your "arresting democratic traitors". He hasn't even arrested Hillary.
Also, go ahead and try. The courts will overturn it and also lets entertain the possibility he does it, and the courts allow him to (won't happen). This means taking money away from other things like either disaster relief such as those to help his redneck base in Texas and Florida or remove it from the corp of engineers who use that more immediate and important projects they work on constantly.
He will face the consequences either way of his bad decision making. Its still a democratic win.
>All the polls show that Trump's approval rating is falling If you had a job you'd be around all kinds of people, left and right. The left people I work with are tired of it all.
Isaiah Turner
The great thing about Trump is he doesn't mind playing the bad guy all they can do is call him a NAZI or a Russian puppet and threaten to impeach him.
Good, I guess we should keep it closed then. Glad we agree.
Liam Davis
>reddit spacing >cortez posting cringe
you know trump won't stop until the wall is built right, he has literally done this 100s of times before, he is a bottom line guy, this was one of the reasons actual political analysts voted him in.
You mean what could go right? Reagan firing air traffic controllers was one of the greatest things he ever did.
Liam Lopez
No, YOU will lose. You Dems don't realize that your base is comprised of the absolute worst, most entitled and non-self-sufficient people in western society. And the thing with habitual beggars and mooches is that once the source of gibs get cut off, there are only two possible outcomes:
1) they bite the hand that (formerly) feeds because they think you're holding out
2) their loyalty goes to those who are in a position to turn back on the flow of free gibs
Both scenarios are lose-lose to the Dems. Trump knows how to work a shutdown and is just playing with the Dems to see how they squirm.
Dominic Green
Nothing too lose? Uhhhh what about wellfare, you know that thing which supports the majority of Democratic voters and keeps them loyal too the democratic party?
Eli Turner
>The Democrats have nothing to lose with maintaining the shutdown Hey brainlet, they have everything to lose because the public might see that they're in fact useless. The only things affected are the paychecks of federal workers, the food stamps, and the parks. Americans might say, wtf we need them for ? Day to day life isn't gone to shit. Maybe for a month the welfare fucks will get a fucking job even and the criminals will steal and get fed in jail. The only thing your democryseem good at is taxing Americans and giving the money to foreign countries and illegals while they stop progress and line their pockets.
Thats fine, but the reality is that once the economy starts to be impacted, and despite what idiots on this forum who think the government only makes up the TSA say, no president escapes the consequences of that.
After how wrong he was during the entire 2016 election cycle, why do people continue to use him as a "credible" source.
He's a hack who constantly uses flawed data.
Mason Richardson
member to register as Democrats and vote for tulsi to btfo israel anons
Grayson Gutierrez
hey retards, You know OP is a discord faggot commie right?
Jason Anderson
over 650 miles of wall was built by Bush and Obama BEFORE Trump ever took office. -Trump is asking for 250 additional miles of wall. THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN is over DEMOCRATS BLOCKING TRUMP'S 250 MILES OF ADDITIONAL WALL.
Red states are the biggest users of welfare. Also it won't just be the blacks who are impacted. White as fuck West Virginia is the third largest recipient of SNAP and food stamps.
Either way, doesn't matter because they don't blame Democrats. They blame Republicans and Trump and it will serve as a motivator to get them to the polls.
Democrats are escaping blame for all the consequences.
Cooper Davis
>unironically citing bloomberg, the hill, cnbc, 538
You want that money, the negotiate it outside of the government shutdown. You had congress for two years and there was no emergency. Now Democrats have the house and suddenly their is an emergency at the border.
Also, Trump was offered 25 bill for the wall for DACA last year and turned it.
You will not get your wall during the shutdown. You will reopen the government eventually and act like an adult and discuss the issue outside of holding federal worker's pay hostage.
The Democrats won't negotiate with terrorists.
Nicholas Rogers
He's really finished this time, guys. I'm a cruz missile now.
They are going to be angry at Trump and the Republicans. Also they can be orgnanized to protest at republican offices. All data shows most voters blame Republicans and Trump. Only 29% of the public blames Democrats in congress.
You had congress for two years and didn't get your wall. You had your chance.
Levi Gomez
You want your Government reopened? Give Trump his wall. There is no room for negotiation for politics in 2019.
Chase Hughes
We all know how accurate polls were in 2016.
On an unrelated note, I polled 100 friends on Facebook. So 100% of people say it's the Dems fault.
In other words, you're a literal moron. Please go be retarded somewhere else.
Landon Barnes
your allies are msm, puppet masters in nearly ever US bureau, most corporations and their owners, and university faculty.
you fuckers glow with deep state wickedness and cultural subversion. you fuckers are near to the level of movie villains. you all are panicking because everyone can see that the "right side of history" schtick was a scam
Nathaniel Evans
>He hasn't even arrested Hillary Funny thing, no one has seen Hillary since December 2018..... Hmmmmm? Who else is strangely absent since then?
First, a lot of the "this will hurt the economy" is BS. It hasn't effected the economy any of the other times it happened. The Government is going to spend a shit ton when it opens up again for GDP will not have a big impact on an annual basis.
The shutdown is worse for the Democrats than Trump. Trump has to get the wall or risk losing reelection. He also have other legal ways to get it built. The Democrats on the other hand have been doing nothing but bitch for the last two years and now the shoe is on the other foot. The shutdown at the begining of their term makes them look incompetent. The infighting that will ensue wont help either. Since Trump is only asking for 5 billion and is willing to negotiate, it will make the Democrats look bad to everyone except their most die hard supporters.
Jordan Bell
They're going to call it a fail no matter what he does short of getting the wall
>opens government LOL Drumpfgb lost
>keeps government closed OMG Drumkpfg is a monster!
Might as well keep going. It's a lose either way otherwise.
why are you holding the US hostage over border security?
Ryan Ward
>terrorists wont negotiate with their enemies they've painted as "terrorists" Imagine my shock. Government contracts do nothing but put more money in gov pockets, retard.
Brody Bell
this user gets it also OP is a faggot and this thread is cancer >in all fields
They're not going to "blame" Democrats, but they're going to want their free shit. Tyrone would rather not have $250 in food stamps to prevent Trump from building his wall? Not buying it. They can organize all they want, but let's see how they like enduring multiple months without gibs.
Mason Murphy
>Automatically discounting something just because of the news organization
The longer this goes on, the farther Trump's approval falls. Keep it shutdown further. Its almost 2020 and the consequences of this will be for Trump to answer for.
You are detached from reality. Instead of writing Democrat fan fiction on Jow Forums, may you ought to go talk to actual people.
Christopher Morales
eat a bucket of AIDS, faggot
Sebastian Hughes
They will be angry at the republicans but they will burn down their own Democrat cities, confirming that blacks and hispanics are the ones mostly on welfare, even if statistics say otherwise.
yeah you will be alright , just like the 40 million russiand that oh died in the soviet unnion
Blake King
There's a government shutdown? I haven't noticed.
Jacob Jackson
based
Xavier Lewis
>(((news))) organization nobody trusts a jew
Justin Reyes
If The Wall costs Trump his second term, so be it. At this point, it's all or nothing. We've already taken back the Supreme Court and with any luck Ginsburg will croak soon. If we get a one term President that brought us The Wall and 2-3 Supreme Court Justices, that's just fine by me. Unless the Democrats want to deny Tyrone his benefits for two years, I'm sure they'll be VERY receptive to that.
Landon Garcia
god i absolutely hope he keeps it shut down for a year the Democrats we eat themselves in six months
socialism will destroy where you live and you will be starving
Jace Edwards
Oh noes! Polling! Trump was elected to build a wall and Republicans don't give a fuck about non-essential cocksuckers being furloughed. If Trump folds he is fucked. If Democrats don't they are going to have to deal will dark skinned urbanites not getting their gibs.
