This is what Jow Forums doesn't understand. "The government" has neither the need nor the desire to "take your guns," because the government can do whatever it wants either way. This is the final redpill - firearms, as such, are meaningless. They are just objects. Without collective action, they are INERT objects.
And the capacity for collective action among American whites has been steadily shattered by ethnic diversity, an economy of wandering vagrants where deracinated "workers" shuffle around from place to place at irregular intervals, drug abuse, suicide/self-destruction, and internal political divisions.
Consider this - white Appalachians are VERY well-armed. And yet, they are abused absolutely at will by outside and government forces, and now they are literally eliminating themselves via pill-popping and obesity. All without any attempt or need to seize "muh guns." Good 'ol boys who can hit targets at 800 yards with grandpa's old rifle can't even hit the level of self-control required to stop taking opioids.
Though somewhat true, you are assuming shit wouldn't be far worse around the world if we were disarmed. The USA has nearly 50% of the world's firearms so the globalist kikes must be a little weary about that stat when pushing for more laws that US people don't like.
Hudson Garcia
They push whatever laws they want. Can you actually think of an example of a law unrelated to firearms themselves that was stopped or overturned by "armed Americans"? Certainly that wasn't the case with the 1965 Immigration Act, with forced race-based school busing, with unpopular wars, section 8 housing relocations/refugee resettlements, Confederate monument removals, or with anything else. In fact, if anything, the presence of firearms has given white Americans an absolutely false sense of security.
Sebastian Phillips
I tried earlier. Too many sleeping goyim on here who like bickering over bullshit
Robert Gonzalez
>"The government" has neither the need nor the desire to "take your guns," What is the Parkland, Las Vegas, Sandy Hook hoaxes?
Aaron Green
This is largely true. The old 1990s conspiracy types talk about how hard martial law would be, but never really think why it isn't. Martial law doesn't exist because they don't need it to.
If they weren't worried about your guns they wouldn't be trying to take them away.
Jaxson Lewis
Martial Law has always been in effect. You dont see the millions of cops walking around in america today for 100 years? That shit was them being retarded and not understanding the reality in which they live.
Yeah, that incident gets cited a lot, but without any follow-up. Did Athens, TN maintain its independence? Nope. It acceded to all of the federal laws and mandates described above, and without a struggle. That's the point here.
The problem is that you're effectively advocating a radical individualist position, when that's simply not how most people's brains are wired. There's really no "choice" involved; it's basic neurophysiology. You will never get very many people to think abstractly about things like "responsibility" for orders. They literally can't. That's another big redpill.
Lucas Ortiz
we just need an e celeb with 2 million active subscribers to call for a revolution. the snowball effect will be enough. If 300 people take steps nation wide and decentralized in one week. it will spark it off no doubt
Isaac Parker
I think you're underestimating how much more complicated it makes taking rights away. It requires extreme subterfuge to take our rights away and keep gun owners from chimping out. There is no perfect way to protect your rights from the government but an AR15 is a great bang for your buck, so to speak. The answer certainly isn't picketing, so unless you have a better solution shut the fuck up and leave it to the adults.
Jordan Wood
Which is why we MUST organize. If there were a core of 10K guys that could show up in DC, or do small squad work where we take out high value targets like media figures and politicians, we could achieve great things.
Landon Flores
>Confederate monument removals Those should be removed, not because they had slaves but because they were enemies of the US.
Kevin Gomez
>they were enemies of the US How so? They supported the constitution and against a centralized government.
Gavin Nelson
>the capacity for collective action among American whites has been shattered by ethnic diversity. You mean the legislation that was enacted that prevented American whites from discriminating against minorities? Yeah, that would stop American whites from using their majority population to create laws that subjugated minority groups.
You nutters are fucking beyond the pale. Not only are you divorced from reality, you've remarried propaganda.
Grayson Wood
>They supported the constitution I believe they had their own constitution
Mason Turner
It's essentially the same thing. The US constitution was based on the Virginia Constitution and Declaration of Rights
>(12) Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
>(13) A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Jacob Roberts
Virginia Declaration of Rights >That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided, as dangerous to liberty; and that, in all cases, the military should be under strict subordination to, and be governed by, the civil power.
Bentley Phillips
I have been saying this for years.
Having guns doesn't make you free. USING guns makes you free.
That is why Americans will always be slaves.
Luke Fisher
You glow
Nathaniel Kelly
He wants to get a big bust so he can get a promotion
Parker Lee
That's actually a good example of the decline of white cohesion in the US. Not many whites in the north cared or got offended about Confederate monuments before the 1990's or so. Before then, it was presumed that people would honor their own ancestors and history. But with the decline of people's awareness of their own roots, this impulse has declined a lot.
Aiden Jenkins
It's not organic. It's orchestrated by the Jew. The "protests" at the monuments are all Jews and Feds.
Julian Watson
>The government" has neither the need nor the desire to "take your guns," because the government can do whatever it wants either way.
Damn, I guess the government doesn’t like getting paid right now.
Carson Myers
legal guns still helps prevent crime though and who knows how the future will turn out still really
when the zoomers grow up and the boomers die off things will change a lot
Camden Garcia
This could be applied to the first amendment as well. This simple idea of open discussion has ultimately led to a few more people being red-pilled, but overall it has achieved jack fuck. Internet forums, websites like gab, posting spicy memes and rightwing e-celebs popping up may have woken up more people, but we are up against multinational corporate-government hybridizations with ACTUAL power and the will to carry out actions against their enemies (us) out of what they deem to be necessary. As long as we sit here and post stupid shit, we are pacifying ourselves and feeding into the delusion that we're getting shit done when in reality, the spectre of the globohomo world order eclipses our chance at ever restoring peace and order to a world gone mad.
