ITT: We debate the political strength and stability of Canada and the U.S. and how the potential new nations will look in the event of a civil war. Also, how likely a civil war really is and how to accelarate the political collapse.
Civil War & Balkanization
nothing will ever happen
you will die waiting for something interesting to happen in your miserable life
Your choice of area colors has me wondering: why is there no Tranny pride meme flag yet?
>Nogs not being run out of the southeast the moment the federal government collapses.
They would be relegated to reservations like the natives, probably in Mississippi or Louisiana.
Why do you think the north east, and PNW would join this shit? We’d finally be free of the welfare states.
Fuck Canada; they get any and everything they deserve in their upcoming Islamic Caliphate; S to spit on Crown Cucks
>Leafs get UP of michigan?
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yea lets make that place even more isolated.
It'd be all White in the Purple section, Hispanic in Blue, Black in the Southeast.
America should have conquered the entire american continent.
Annexed Canada, spreaded south and pushed the other ethnic people out.
You retards, you had the means to get an entire continent to yourselves.
OP is a katsap shill and a subhuman faggot.
Balkanizing the US is straight from Dugin's book "Foundation of Geopolitics".
Death to russia.
>Quebec
>not being a country
fuck off with your meme map, will ya?
Uh dude half of this place is Ohio transplants, federal government collapses we’re basically South Africa
But I’m white, in the PNW, and don’t want to be in the same country as the third world flyover states. I bet the NE sees it the same way. No way I wanna get stuck with Far Cry 5 the ethnostate, lol.
You think I give two fucks about Russia or work for Russia? Maybe you're a kike.
You'd want Quebec to be separate?
So, what? Cascadia?
Russia is like Alaska with more trailers and nukes, hiv, and Muslims
Lol 10th Mountain nearly invades Ottawa when they had that FLQ crisis in the 80’s; Canadian military is perfect fake and gay
Good to know?
There are more nog hating white people with guns in the south than their are nogs with guns willing to fight back.
Your partition seems interesting. Your fascist America seems like it would maintain most of the strenghts of the present day US, while getting rid of demographic problems. I have to wonder though, isn't the Missisippi river a really important transport venue? Aren't you ceding the control of Missisippi to niggers? Also California might be running out of water anyway, so it will probably implode. Just make sure they don't come on your side of the wall and presto
Aw, the katsap's struggling to contain his tears.
Death to russia.
That might work. We’re very culturally distinct from the Midwest and south. Just the religion stats alone convey that. Plus let’s face it, Middle America hates Oregon, and we’re not sure where it is, aside from somewhere we don’t care to be, lol.
>no quebec
wtf ? even alaska got independance
New Englander here. eat shit you arrogant fucking asshole. speak for your own faggot self
basically this. the jews are playing the long con on the white race. replacing us slowly year by year via immigration using capitalism as the excuse to do it. "we need more workers"
That’s cool. You can prop up those economies if you want.
You're clearly having a delusion.
It doesn't matter to me. My nation will be in the Far North.
they don't need propping up you fucking dipshit. that's a made up stat because of niggers demanding gibs. kill yourself.
Lmao the brave whites all died over a hundred years ago and their surviving blood lines got drafted first for Vietnam, seriously the first thing you notice about the south is there are barely any actual southerners...and the courts are backed up years and thanks to kike loving boomers the cops are bigger gun grabbers than up north; you’re delusional
TRUMP IS LEAVING NAFTA, CANADA NEEDS TO JOIN THE NORTH AMERICAN EMPIRE OR DIE
This
Also you have Memphis in Purple. I don’t know exactly how to cleansed that place outside of a crusade.
Given independence, the snow chinks of Alaska will likely want to unite with the snow chinks of Canada. My proposal would make the UN kikes very happy, and it would also give us access to the uranium in Nunavut so we'd also be a nuclear power.
Fuck Canada; Israel tier allies
A huh sure. Look, I’d thank the Chinese for selling them fentanyl, but they won’t stop whining about running out of narcan.
That’s pretty clever. Especially with the north ocean being open more.
Nunavut has Uranium, you say? Interesting.
Canada could build its own nukes but it won't even mine the material because it's environmentally unfriendly. It puts "A FUCKING LEAF" in a whole new light, doesn't it
Oui.
70s, bub.
It puts Novutera on the map, it would seem.
You forgot Cascadia. That Oregon, Washington and British Columbia. Heck tey already have a Flag and an Independence movement.
I'm going by ethnic balkanization.
Thanks for Kandahar, faggot
This is probably more likely desu
>going by ethnic balkanization
>completely discounts the eskimos and keeps them separated based on white man's borders
>a black ethnostate in the South
>happening ever
occidentaldissent.com
Manges moi la raie, yankee.
Not conquering Canada at the time was understandable because the UK was more powerful than us throughout our early history.
Yeah but I really wonder why we didn't just take all of Mexico and then evict all the natives to the South like we did when we expanded west towards the Pacific. We completely demolished their army, took their capital, and then retreated and settled for Texas, Arizona and California.
You're one to talk though Brazil, you guys ruined your gene pool by promoting race mixing and not pushing ethnics out.
>occidentaldissent.com
kek
I don't care about the Inuit. They aren't alive anymore in this scenario.
>Canada not balkanizing at the same time if not before the US does
Alberta Republic. I figure the Chinks will slaughter all the coastal libtards, and the hard folk in the interior will unite with us.
Saskatchewan you can come too, if you really want to.
Manitoba, noone cares.
Not all Canadians are bluepilled, mate. It's pretty bad, sure, but it's like the story of the quiet man. Once he gets pissed off, he takes it to a new level.
We are smart, resourceful people who work very well together. If we set our minds to something, it would happen.
See Vimy Ridge.
Imagine if you took the best breeding stock of the original British New world colonies. Threw in some monarchist French hardasses. A dash of the best and brightest from Ukraine. And a shitload of the hardiest people to have ever existed. And you get the 'Old Stock's Canadians.
Imagine the excellence of that stock, honed in the unforgiving cold of the North. There are some hard, hard people here. And they are wicked smart for the most part.
I would not fuck with Canadians.
Who drew that map?
A drunk Todd Howard?
>thread about balkanization of Canada
>doesn't show Quebec and Newfoundland
How fucking DENSE are you?
>Florida part of Niggertopia
>not its own country
>no Ancap society
That'd probably happen too
>They aren't alive anymore in this scenario.
Enjoy your UN invasions
No more NATO
No EU army
Nationalists rising in Europe destroy the UN
I think we are good.
That map is retarded the South isn't going to give all its land to blacks
>new afrika
>in the middle of new dixie, splitting the country in two
Never going to happen.
kekked at the balkanization of canada but no independent quebec
It's not fully split in two and look up Lesotho, you can't really move the nogs out. It'd be extremely expensive
You're really fantasizing hard there, and that defeats any and all enthusiasm any reasonable person in this thread might have.
worth it though
Looks pretty good to be quite honest. We, the fascist states, should take canada too and alaska
They make mistakes we don't. That is why the UN "peacekeepers" can not intervene.
Colorado got too many stoners to become Mormon Deseret kingdom, otherwise, pretty accurate except Michigan is Samolia.
There already is the nation of Liberia where all former slaves were once sent. No need to give up land that you've spilled blood for.
Then a Confederate assassin killed the guy who would have sent them all back, creating a Black belt.
Thank you for the proper coloring of the U.P.
I was mostly trying to use existing and historical separatist movements to make this map. There's a lot of Mormons in Colorado, they own a lot of the businesses there.
No problem
which reminds me. what if you guys are playing for the wrong team. I mean trump sent his daughter to a jewish school and was happy that she became a jewess and married a jew. f35's are allowed to be tampered with, you still send shitload of $$$ to (((them))). And you're still being flooded and there is no wall.
Such as?
Not my problem, bro.
Millions of right wing Whites would have to hit at once to get it going. The systems should be targeted first, media, police, government and banking. Then we should hunt the SJW's and activists via all the social media programs along with illegals. When all the police and judicial systems are neutralized, niggers and kikes will have no protection. If it doesn't happen in 5 years, it never will. as to the map we can do way better.
They see everyone as the same. The great big human rainbow. This couldn't be more false. The snow chinks want freedom, eh? Give it to them. BTFO the UN by outjewing them. They're racists and inhuman by not letting Greenland be free of Denmark and Nunavut from Canada. They're neo-colonial. We can exploit this tribalist nature to our benefit, citing the constraint of the Inuit people and their potential. Once maximum pressure has been applied for Inuit balkanization, they will be on their own. They will want to make snowshoes and hunt with sticks. We will overpower them with millions.
Here's the ultimate NA balkanization
>at the time
How many time did you have to do that?
We are 55,000,000 in number and populate 4 countries. Nouvterans have IQs in the 95 to 130+ range. Our flaw is we have no unifying goal or artificially cultivated culture of nationalist sentiment, uniting all of us. The Nunavut has 33,000 Inuit with 85 IQ and tribal lifestyle. We do not obey the Geneva Convention. We will never obey it. Homo Sapiens can not dictate to Homo Nova Terra. They never will. Homo Sapiens is constantly destroying itself with altruism. Zionist archons manipulate them. Erectus is too primitive to do anything. We will rise. Our evolution is our survival. Sometimes, that matters more than the laws of man.
I find the term "balkanisation" insultin and racis. Appolageese!
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What is the Flag in New England?
You're a dipshit and here's why.
>They're racists and inhuman by not letting Greenland be free of Denmark and Nunavut from Canada
Greenland has an autonomous government free of Denmark. Theoretically, Denmark could revoke that government anytime they want, but you know very well the EU and UN would flip their shit if they did that. As for Nunavut, it is seen as quintessentially Canadian, but as soon as Canada or anyone else decided to commit an Inuit genocide (as you envision) the whole place would be crawling with the United Niggers before you knew what hit you. This applies whether they're a separate state or not; in fact, if Nunavut became a country and anyone invaded it NATO might even get involved.
Have you considered you might be disabled?
Not if NATO and the UN disband from resistance against the Kalergi plan they have tried to implement. When Europe balkanizes and secessionists rise, it's over for the UN.
I will personally annex West Virginia in the name of the Pennsreich.
I mean there's literally no people up there except Eskimos. You guys could probably pull it off.
>if
>if
>if
You call me delusional and then spout delusions.
The only realistic map (in my opinion)
Stop including us into your gay schizoid plans you fucking mutts.
Nice delusion. It's not happening.
You will never have Alaska.
>ME not taking NB and NS
yeah naa
portsmouth is great
The southwest and California are mexican already. All usa cities are nigger shitholes and would have to be wiped out. The burbs and the country are up for grabs.
>millions of rednecks giving up the only piece of real estate in the country that has its own sense of identity being a separate nation, along with the most concentrated free citizen private firearm ownership on the planet, as well as the only refineries on this side of the planet to a bunch of niggers in Atlanta, New Orleans and Miami
Shiggy.
Why is Central America using the Panama flag?
this is the most likely desu.
All non whites residing within the greater United States will be resettled to their respective future overland US Territories in Africa, Central/Southern America and SE Asia
African Americans-Liberia
Amerindians-Columbia/Bolivia
Asians-Philippines/American Samoa
NW Alaskan Natives/Eskimos-Reservations with limits on allowed population growth
Inevitable expansion of US Borders to encompass most of Northern Mexico, the entire Baja Peninsula (to be renamed Hammilton peninsula) and the Yucatan Peninsula (renamed to Polk's Peninsula) with an emphasis on the systematic removal of all previous Latino/Amerindian influence and replacing it with American Anglo-Germanic influence.
1) Map of the United States immediately following 2nd Civil War