Who were a good guys in this war?

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the furfags.

Neither, but the Union was honestly more scummy in their conduct.

The krauts

Dixie.
They were the only people worth a damn. Not so much their politicians.

neither were based

confederates should have listened to lincoln and got rid of the niggers

union should have gotten rid of the niggers during reconstruction instead of letting them fester and grow as freemen in confederate lands as revenge, inevitably cucking the entire nation from being the white man's rightful clay and putting us on this wild ride we're stuck on today

The north employed some underhanded political shit which led to the divide. Lincoln was a cunt and literally suspended the 1st amendment jailing anybody who criticized him and his administration. The southerners never recovered from the march to the sea.

The south in order to fight for states rights had to nationalize everything to compete with the economic output of the north invalidating their cause. If general lee wouldnt have ordered that last charge on Gettysburg he may have won the war.

In the end I doubt that if the confederacy won that the united states would exist today, only a matter of time before some me other states rebelled against them for another reason and so on.

Southerner here. Of the two, the CSA was far and away on the moral high ground, ironically. They were following the founders intent.

The north had to suspend the 1st amendment, flood the nation with irish and german immigrants to fight thier war, and allow niggers to go unchecked afterwards.

The CSA didnt fight for slavery or nigger expansion, they fought because the north started invading them with foreigners...literally.

Imagaine the us army being 50-75% Mexican nationals, 1st and 2nd gen "citizens" attacking states that are entirely descendants of the original colonists and founders....

What's the deal on the Knights of the Golden Circle?

>Imagaine the us army being 50-75% Mexican nationals, 1st and 2nd gen "citizens" attacking states that are entirely descendants of the original colonists and founders....

you won't have to imagine that soon

Fun fact Arlington national cemetary was created on General Lee's property after it was captured during the war. It was proposed by salty union leadership so that he could never return home without feeling the guilt of the war he perpetuated and all the lives lost for the cause he fought for. General Lee never returned to his families home due to this.

Lincoln was not pushing to ship them back.
He wanted the war anyway to consolidate the union of states into a nation so that an empire could be formed.
No one really seems to know the abuses of power he made at the time, imprisoning political opponents in the north, making proclamations as if he were king instead of president, and more that I cannot remember off the top of my head.
He's why the constitution is worthless and why states have no real rights. Others built on his work but he made the unthinkable thinkable and totally destroyed everything the founding fathers worked to build.
They never intended on getting rid of the niggers. Racism as we know it was unheard of during slavery. The hate and resentment came after the niggers were "educated" about their situation and when the white masters viewed them as ingrates and the white poor saw them as competition. The relationship was more like that of any sort of farm animal accept niggers could speak. They were a lesser part of the family treated as pets. There were cruel and kind masters but most horror stories come from abolitionist propaganda made by people who had never even been to the South.
Lincoln should have never been made president.
States rights should have been upheld. Slavery was going away regardless of the war. The south should have been allowed to end it at our own pace.
We could have kept the world free but it was lost the moment Lincoln won.

That's precisely why I think the second civil war will be reality in my lifetime.

The Union was honestly. But they should have fought the war under the pretense of shipping back the Harambes back to Africa. Then Lincoln should have hung all the unrepentant traitors and pushed for state rights for everything else.

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good summary

> thinking there are good guys in war

Don't be stupid.

The jews.
It’s always the fucking Jews.

South had the right to keep slavery in place and also had the right to leave. Tenth Amendment.

my exact thoughts
>white is liberia

what***** is liberia

>Who were the good guys?
The side whose eventual victory wasn't necessarily and directly contigent upon the commission of literal atrocities and blatant terrorism and total warfare against random civilians and basic infrastructure.
A lot of parallels with WWII here desu kek.

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The South put POWs into concentration camps

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Literally neither. The Confederacy was run by kikes (besides Davis hinself) and wanted more niggers. They didn't castrate the Male slaves like the Arabs did, dooming America to being plagued by dindus. The Union was unscrupulous and its arguable Lincoln exceeded his authority as President. Plus they burned crops and the Restoration afterwards was a disaster.

A place that existed before Lincoln and that he did nothing to expand. The colonization movement was dead in abolitionist circles 15 years before Lincoln got into office. The evangelicals were all singing John Browns Body and talking about nigger equality before a single vote was cast.

Yeah, just like all those fucking kikes who were intentionally starved in German concentration camps, it's not like their opposition bombed out and blew up all of their supply lines, causing everyone in the South to suffer from famine and disease.

This.

The initial issue was not the niggers.

where can i read about the civil war without confederate bad, blacks good?

The only good end possible would have been if the North seceded and won.

If you can go back in time and warn the colonists qnot to bring biggers to our country would you and how?

The Americans.

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The USA. I used to be sympathetic for the confederates (I still respect the people that fought against the USA), but after learning more in depth about why they started the war, I lost absolutely all sympathy. They could have kept their slaves, and kept their concerns out of states that aren't theirs, but instead they fought a battle that they couldn't have possibly won, all for the sake of being self-righteous cunts, and in doing so, initiated the chain of events that lead to the bureaucratic, quasi-tyrannical nightmare government that we have today. Fuck the confederates, in all available holes.