DNA testing companies like 23&me, ancestory.com, myheritage, familytreedna, and living dna are providing false and inaccurate results to people using their services.
Charlsie Agro and her twin sister, Carly, bought home kits from AncestryDNA, MyHeritage, 23andMe, FamilyTreeDNA and Living DNA, and mailed samples of their DNA to each company for analysis. Despite having virtually identical DNA, the twins did not receive matching results from any of the companies. "The fact that they present different results for you and your sister, I find very mystifying," said Dr. Mark Gerstein, a computational biologist at Yale University. Gerstein's team analyzed the results, and he asserts that any results the Agro twins received from the same DNA testing company should have been identical. The raw data collected from both sisters' DNA is nearly exactly the same. "It's shockingly similar," he said.
>identical twins Just send the same person's DNA twice under different names.
Jackson Phillips
are you fucking stupid?
Carson Foster
>The raw data collected from both sisters' DNA is nearly exactly the same. Which means the companies are all correctly decoding the DNA but their analysis process is broken.
Christopher Turner
you are fucking retarded
Jaxson Morris
but if the raw data is the same, then the analysis should be the same, yes?
That would indicate that the company is intentionally or unintentionally manipulating the results
Ryder Price
>gerstein
Jonathan Green
how dumb are you is what we want to know?
Nolan Miller
Yes. The analysis for whatever reason is flawed, which is odd because decoding is the part that should be much more prone to error. The analysis is little more than run of the mill pattern matching.
Jaxon Sullivan
Would love to see an experiment where two black twins and two white twins submit their DNA and one from each set has a "Black name" and one from each has a "White name"
Kayden Taylor
Which then tips the scales in favor of intentional manipulation.
James Ramirez
No, when analyzing the sample there are no calls, it is not perfect 2% will come back as no call and that impacts ancestry slightly
Dominic Wilson
are you?
Asher Brown
Most likely though they may have hired poos to do the coding and system admin, I which case there could be all kinds of logic and configuration errors.
Nicholas Jenkins
These differences mostly come from how the computer algorithm splits up the DNA into thousands of windows, analyzing one window at a time. And how blank spots (or “no calls”) in the data affect how the DNA is interpreted and/or split up into those pieces.
These no calls are an inevitable consequence of any test like the ones these companies run.
23andMe reports that on average they get good reads on more than 98% of the markers they look at which is really very good. But it still means that each test has thousands and thousands of spots that could not be read.
And importantly, the same markers do not come up as no calls in different tests. Each time someone’s DNA is read, you can end up with a different 2% being uninterpretable.
These spots on the DNA that can’t be read in a particular assay can tip the ancestry scales one way or another. What might look English with a smattering of these missed reads, looks German with a different set of no calls.
So in the first case a piece of one identical twins’ DNA might look English while the same or an overlapping piece of DNA will look German with the second identical twin. It wouldn’t take too many differences like this to shift enough DNA to make the two not look identical from an ancestry point of view.
From what I understand the twins are reporters and they both sent DNA to take part and report on the same topic. It's purely to both have involvement while achieving the same goal.
Juan Torres
these dna tests are just an attempt to find genetically suitable subjects for harvesting organs and blood...
Lincoln Turner
Ive been slowly watching its decline for the past decade. I mostly use it for the tech news since I work in IT but every once in awhile you get a gem like this article.
Yea, the FBI dropped charges against kiddy diddlers because their Tor browser exploit was too precious. Lets not forget, while they ran that honeypot, they were the largest distributor of child pornography in the entire world.
Liam Mitchell
Thanks for the insight. It's really helpful in understanding what might have gone wrong and the reasons for it.
Camden Evans
all this DNA shit is such a colossal scam it is hilarious
Angel Sullivan
also, if i can run the same persons DNA multiple times and get different results each time because of "no calls" then, how sure can we be that the first result set is indeed the "accurate" one?
This process seems to be much more pseudo-scientific than the consumers and the general public have been led to believe.
Bentley Walker
Science isn't completely accurate. Science always comes with a certain margin of error and most of the companies who provide these tells tell you what the margin of error is for your results.
Easton Powell
>Science isn't completely accurate >muh climate change pick one
Benjamin Kelly
what those companies dont tell you is that today you might be german, but if we run the test tomorrow, you might be english. Maybe next week you will be russian. Who knows, maybe one day you will be black.
Ayden Scott
I worked FDA when 23andme was banned. Not sure what’s happened there in the interim. Briberty? Possibly. 23andme has Google owner connections as well as Clinton’s. The raw data is processed by Labcorp in Burlington NC. A legitimate laboratory. But these companies like Orig3n , Everlywell and 23andfees take the data and report out what’s tantamount to a horoscope which is why the twins don’t match. Dog dna gets reported as humans. It’s all about money. I think the only intelligent state regulators are in Maryland and NY they have blocked the sale of this garbage for the most part.
Joshua Phillips
I'm sure they cover their asses quite well but I'm positive they don't tell people the same DNA sample can give multiple results.
Jace Price
these articles are never real when are you anglocucks gonna wake up
you need a high iq though so tough luck for you brainwashed faggots outthere
Austin Perez
>average US IQ: 98 >average Macedonia IQ: 91 whew lad
Jace Brooks
>claims high iq >believes some bs infographic image circulated that he doesnt even know how its measured or on whom ofcourse the shiteating american got triggered by the post
Blake Mitchell
last time macedonia was relevant was nearly 2500 years ago
Chase Evans
and?
no wonder this board is shit
Liam Morgan
twins dont always have the same dna, infact if theyre mutts they might have wildly different dna.
Juan Cox
are you nigger?
Andrew Sanders
didnt they literally admit to giving people false nigger heritage in order to "fuck with racists"?
Xavier Walker
that was in relation to claims about genetic health markers, predisposition to certain cancers and such. the problem was ofcourse that the relation between the genes and the condition are poorly proven and could mislead people. who knows if their dna testing is accurate.
Blake Foster
I read the same a year or two ago.
Jack Garcia
this
Brandon Hall
Mmm another reason not to provide dna, insurance companies will eventually find (((uses))) for such data to raise their premiums.
Juan Sanchez
>Trusting kike corporations with your DNA >Paying them to run experiments on your genetics
What can go wrong?
Jaxon Ward
Sort of. They didn't technically falsify the results but if you had 0% African ancestry, they'd say it was
