>"Democrats were hopeful that the President was finally willing to re-open government and proceed with a much-needed discussion to protect the border.
Unfortunately, initial reports make clear that his proposal is a compilation of several previously rejected initiatives, each of which is unacceptable and in total, do not represent a good faith effort to restore certainty to people’s lives. It is unlikely that any one of these provisions alone would pass the House, and taken together, they are a non-starter. For one thing, this proposal does not include the permanent solution for the Dreamers and TPS recipients that our country needs and supports.
Democrats support smart, effective border security solutions:
-Increased infrastructure investments at our ports of entry including additional ports and roads; -Advanced technology to scan for drugs, weapons and contraband where the vast majority of drugs come in to our country and advanced technology to detect unauthorized crossings; -More customs personnel including filling the more than 3,000 customs and border patrol vacancies; and -More immigration judges.
Next week, Democrats will pass a package of six bills agreed to by House and Senate negotiators and other legislation to re-open government so that we can fully negotiate on border security proposals.
The President must sign these bills to re-open government immediately and stop holding the American people hostage with this senseless shutdown. Each day he prolongs this needless crisis, Coast Guardsmen, FBI agents, border patrol officers, TSA agents, and hundreds of thousands more workers are forced to live without knowing how they can feed their families or pay their bills.
The President has taken pride in shutting down government. Now, he must take action to open up government.
Didn't he write a book about how to make deals? What the fuck happened?
Jason Rivera
He didn't want them to take the deal, he wanted the story to be that he offered ground and that they rejected. It deflects the onus from him to them while the dissatisfaction with the shutdown festers.
Aaron Gray
"I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck. … I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it.” - President Donald Trump
Nathan Brown
I don't think that's true one bit. This government shutdown has completely convinced my stupid as fuck neighbor to switch sides, and he was a huge Trump fan to begin with.
Aiden Rogers
>Anecdotal evidence >Muh neighbor is now liberal when he was "stupid as fuck"
Lol, okay.
Ryder Hall
the Dems are moving goalposts to keep the government closed
Ayden Watson
This is a common misconception, "The Art of the Deal" was almost entirely written by Tony Schwartz.
He also managed to get a byline on the cover, half of the advance for the book, and half of the royalties from sales.
For some perspective almost all ghostwriters just get a flat fee and nothing else. Ironically, Trump "negotiated" a horrible deal when he got someone to write "The Art of the Deal"
The man has almost no business acumen, he heavily relied on not paying contractors for work in conjunction with being awarded publicly funded grants for building projects.
Nathan Sanders
Literally nothing has changed in this country since the shut down. Fuck the bureaucrats that escaped their lack of talent and skill and sought cushy federal jobs. If they loved their families they would quit their jobs and look for one so they can feed them.
Jace Taylor
Trump needs to agree to Pelosi's robot dogs
Isaiah Robinson
Lmao Trump is such a cuck.
Colton Morris
pretty simple. there is no talk left. Boarder wall, Naowwwww.
Jonathan Clark
He just made a few billion dollars in New York real estate by accident.
Landon Harris
then why didn't he offer any ground? lmao. shittard
Asher Jackson
>Democrats support smart, effective border security solutions: so they support open borders
Juan Bailey
Id like to see that retard slut have a stroke and piss herself on live tv
David Johnson
>extending DACA and giving shitskins "aid" isn't a compromise Show flag, Moshe. You're not fooling anyone.
Luke Reyes
Not even that. They've said that they're not even looking at the deals anymore, just declining them before they're even out.
David Cox
then he's a retarded statist
Carter Butler
just as a reminder, the libtards and leftists need the government more than the right wingers do
the democrats need the government more than non democrats do
Kevin James
was there a video of the response?
Caleb Gomez
What about the factory workers and steel millers families you fucked over with NAFTA? No one cares about government employees, the fact they're trying to use them as virtue signal fodder is fucking hilarious
Jacob Reyes
Could happen with the amount of alcohol she drinks
Alexander Foster
this. Also the office that sends out food stamps sent out the february ones in january in case the shutdown lasts. Meaning of course the shitskins are going to spend all their foodstamps in january and riot when they don't get any in february.
Nicholas Morris
Kill all the Democrats, it’s the only way now
Henry Cruz
Fuck the dems
Ethan Rivera
go back to rreddit
Nathan Robinson
I’m ok with that
Liam Hughes
Trump offered exactly what the Democrats wanted, and they said no.
Thats going to be repeated over and over during the next election.
Meanwhile all the democrats will be raising during the election debates are Buzzfeed articles.
Nicholas Jackson
>Dreamers and TPS recipients that our country needs USA needs illegal inmigration?
This. Other than the constant whining I haven't noticed a single difference
Camden Young
>permanent solution for the Dreamers and TPS recipients that our country needs the T in TPS literally stands for TEMPORARY
Asher Foster
you replied to a meme flaggot.
Connor Cook
A government shutdown is the best thing it can happen to a State that values liberty above all. Nothing will change except of a bunch of leeches dying and chimping out and the people will realize they don-t need to pay for an inneficient governmet focused on bureaucracy. Bureaucrats ironically deserve the rope.
Blake Ross
This is beginning to go a like the Kavanaugh confirmation circus. Hopefully it ends the same way.
Blake Ward
This. Don't expect me to care about government workers losing jobs and pay when government workers didn't care as citizens lost their jobs and pay!
David Butler
He wrote a book on how to make good deals, not shit deals most politicians make. Hope this clarifies things for you.
Nathaniel Sanders
Fuck illegals, we need to make the country as good as possible for the american people.
Henry Miller
Not really. >-Increased infrastructure investments at our ports of entry including additional ports and roads; Donald Trump has already put financial support into improving ports and repairing roads. He's also reduced bureaucratic overhead on at least the roads. >-Advanced technology to scan for drugs, weapons and contraband where the vast majority of drugs come in to our country and advanced technology to detect unauthorized crossings; This was a part of Trump's plan today. >-More customs personnel including filling the more than 3,000 customs and border patrol vacancies; and This too. >-More immigration judges. He specifically offered 90 new immigration judicial teams to help with the backlog.
All of the Democrats' "smart, effective border security solutions" are incorporated into the January 2019 "DACA-for-Wall" deal they are supposedly going to reject.
Jacob Ross
>Things that totally happened >Meme flag
Fuck off Schlomo
Isaac Price
Fuck you democrats in here trying to brainwash people. Eat shit you fucktards. I hope you are not being paid cuz you really suck.
Kayden Cruz
I'm not a 4d chess guy. I give Trump a "meh" rating so far. I honestly think, however, in this case, he made such a generous and overly reasonable offer in order to force Democrats to own the shutdown. Any normal person who listened to Trump's proposal would be struck with how reasonable it is...a genuine compromise.
If the Democrats refuse this offer, they have effectively taken ownership of the shutdown. Just my two cents.
Yes, one way to have money is to not pay for services rendered.
John Campbell
Let's take what you wrote at face value:
>Trump gets someone else to write a bestselling book for him >This is a bad deal and he has no business acumen
Pick one. Oh, wait...you can't. The book is already a bestseller.
Alexander Russell
they rejected it before he made it. Like they released the statement saying no before trump aired.
Liam Kelly
>Memeflag
Yeah okay. The government shutdown is a major crisis affecting everyone's life and the orange man must let in more poor immigrants. Why don't you just get to the story you're trying to peddle instead of this round about concern-trolling?
Jordan King
>More immigration judges Unless they are willing to increase the judgeships by a factor of x10, its pointless. The system is so backlogged that cases are delayed by YEARS.
Jordan Garcia
Larp harder
Christian Cook
Trump could have stuck to negotiating behind closed doors, but he keeps making it public like it makes a difference. Public opinion has only turned more against Trump during the shutdown and this kind of grandstanding just makes him look even less effective. He's the only one stuck on this wall and the only thing the wall will do is to momentarily get Ann Coulter to stop bullying him. Most presidents would start focusing on reelection, but Trump is digging in on this issue for no gain even among his base. Of course Pelosi isn't going to move. She knows she doesn't have to give him a wall.
Hudson Robinson
Now that the democrats have shit the bed, next week trump goes full nazi. He fires every commie and sand nigger that obongo hired, delcares a national emergency and tells pelosi he still is not signing a spending bill until he gets the cash. and by the way nancy also you have to suck my dick on national tv.
Robert King
>falling for that narative.
Trump was building for 30 years, then suddenly this accusation shows up during an election... I wonder why.
Its a smart move by Trump and a bad look for the Dems.
Publicly offering a compromise only to have it instantly rejected by the Dems gives the impression that it is the Dems who are prolonging the shutdown while Trump is attempting to end it. It also makes the public more accepting to Trump if he decides to declare a state of emergency to build the wall and end the shutdown as he will be able to say that he tried to compromise.
He should've made the offer in his nothingburger address last week. None of the public network channels even aired it - only the politically minded tuned in today, everyone else will just hear a spun version from the media.
Josiah Ward
MORE PORTS AND ROADS WILL KEEP THEM OUT NOT WALLS YOU STUPID DRUMPFKINS
Gavin Miller
only because you follow politics.
The left own the media. The media will have a crafted narrative to spin to the masses by the DNC. Most people will get their knowledge of what Trump said/offered from this narrative.
The lefts ownership of the nations media must stop. No one political party should control all major mass media markets.
So you think more entry points would make it harder to get in?
That seems counter intuitive.
Parker Bailey
muh nigger. I was typing my response then I saw you practically said the same thing. If you enjoy looking at hogtied females, I will think we are twins who have been separated at birth
imagine being the 'most powerful man in the world' and being told what you can and cannot do by some dried up old cunt.
also he could have had this done and dusted in the two years he had full control. fake & gay
Christopher Williams
Nice story retard. Every conservative I know IRL or otherwise wants the federal government to be shut down indefinitely. It's nothing but egg on the faces of the democrat party. The security of the nation has been proven to be less than trivial to those leftist democrat faggots.
Kevin Scott
Permanent shutdown is bad how?
Jaxson Smith
Democrats are making the correct political decision to not compromise with Trump and only agree to re-open the government and nothing more.
If Democrats resist the urge to spit in Trump's eye and just offer a clean agreement to simply re-open the government and allow both sides to walk away with nothing then they both can come out of this situation without too much damage.
If Trump continues to pester Democrats to agree on wall funding the Democrats have no intentions of giving or if Democrats demand some form of prize then both sides will end up in more trouble than they want.
TRUMP AND THE DEMOCRATS NEED TO AGREE TO RE-OPEN THE GOVERNMENT AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT FIGHT.
Brody Nguyen
Ok meme flag.... how’s david Brock doing.
Dominic Morales
"-Increased infrastructure investments at our ports of entry including additional ports and roads; -Advanced technology to scan for drugs, weapons and contraband where the vast majority of drugs come in to our country and advanced technology to detect unauthorized crossings; -More customs personnel including filling the more than 3,000 customs and border patrol vacancies; and -More immigration judges."
Literally non of those stop the flow of illegals. Infact because of the increased technology of scanning for drugs at the border, as long at they can get through illegally, bringing drugs across illegally will become the method of choice.
Charles Howard
The "walls don't work" talking point doesn't work faggot. Try a different line.
Carter Reed
>Democrats are making the correct political decision to not compromise with Trump and only agree to re-open the government and nothing more.
How is refusing a tenth of a tenth of the budget for increased border security something good? We have hundreds of thousands of illegals every year crossing the border, and the dems response? "no no, walls are evil". Give me a fucking break. The fact that the dems are so against a wall shows they are putting their politics before the needs and safety of the country. Dems look pathetic right now.
Asher Flores
>I believe what random anons on Jow Forums tell me your life must really suck
Charles Robinson
I work for the government. The shutdown makes it much harder to get work done, if you're allowed to work at all. Plenty of people are working without pay, and some are getting paid but not allowed to work.
DACA and TPS look like a lot, but the Democrats know that they'll get what they want through the (((courts))) eventually. Most casual observers won't think that far, so it makes the Democrats look like assholes for not taking the offer.
A decent play, but not good enough.
Lucas Peterson
>Public opinion has only turned more against Trump during the shutdown
Public support of the wall has only increased during the shutdown actually. And it'll keep growing as more and more dems realize that their party is causing hundreds of thousands of gov workers to suffer because the dems don't want extra protections for the country.
Grayson Smith
Stupid people seem to give a ton of fucks about the shutdown. Feels good to not be a gibsmedat faggot and smart.
Benjamin Rogers
>Literally non of those stop the flow of illegals
drug smuggling is not the same illegal immigration -- they are separate issues. The majority of drugs comes smuggled thru ports of entry becuase of the lack of the ability to search every car/truck and every nook & cranny of those vehicles. Tech is needed to improve searching hundreds of semi's coming across an entry per day.
DON'T open the government back up, I NEED THIS CIVIL WAR TO HAPPEN
Jordan Lee
in what world is Trump's *offer* anything that the Democrat Party should even consider? No Medicaid, nothing on education, nothing about minimum wage, nothing about permanent immigration policy...
it would be an insult to even consider it and for once I'm glad they outright rejected something
Michael Cook
>All of the Democrats' "smart, effective border security solutions" are incorporated into the January 2019 "DACA-for-Wall" deal they are supposedly going to reject. All those things have been in the democrat budget since the shutdown began, Trump has rejected them already but now he's adding DACA and a wall and is hoping they'll accept it.
Aiden Miller
way too hard mode. If you're going to troll sucessfully, you have to sound sincere and moderate. maybe a 1 for 10, honestly.
>drug smuggling is not the same illegal immigration -- they are separate issues.
They are inherently tied together because of what I stated. Provisions to make drugs easier to stop at the checkpoints are good. However having no provisions to stop illegals then choosing to bring drugs across the border illegally is bad.
>The majority of drugs comes smuggled thru ports of entry becuase of the lack of the ability to search every car/truck and every nook & cranny of those vehicles. Tech is needed to improve searching hundreds of semi's coming across an entry per day.
>Walls stop illegal crossings..
Which is what Trump is asking for. What's your point. Trump is asking for border security to primarily stop the flow of illegals. The dems say no, and instead offer things that won't stem the flow of illegals. How about this? They accept Trumps plan to stem illegal immigrants, AND include provisions for better technology to stop drug smugglers?
Andrew Hughes
>do not represent a good faith effort I find it hysterical that they are still trying to pretend that they are looking for compromise rather than capitulation while also putting on full display that capitulation is the only thing that they are looking for. For the past couple of months I have completely laid off actively trying to redpill people. Instead I've just been sitting back and waiting for someone to say "wait this doesnt make sense" before giving them more information. And I have seen more people become redpilled over the past idk.. 2-4 months than I have in the 10 years prior that Ive been trying my ass off to redpill people. They really are doing our job for us.
Parker Hall
>Dems look pathetic right now. Too those on the right the Dems look like shit. But to the left and those who watch the media coverage the Dems look "reasonable".
You have to understand the Democratshave spent more than two years claiming a wall is evil, racist, xenophobic, bigoted, and "not worth the money". The media has spend thousands of hours setting up the narrative that the wall is evil. If the Dems cave now when they politically do not have to they risk too much blowback from their own base.
I agree there is serious need for all kinds of security on the border but Dems are not going to give Trump a single cent. Dems in the Congress are just following in the footsteps of the GOP who controlled both houses of Congress for two years and never passed wall funding.
>don't ever pay contractors who build you things >somehow people keep building you things even though you never pay them damn user, how persuasive do you think Trump really is?? You make him sound like an absolute legend by saying that people always do stuff for free for the guy. Wouldn't you think that people would talk to each other and stop doing this at some point??
>dems rejecting something that would actively benefit the united states
Yeah Im thinking dems are gonna lose this battle.
Hunter Thomas
Thanks for (((correcting the record)))
Colton Perry
Sounds like fair requests. Now. Where is the part about funding for the wall? Such a well written piece, mayhaps I missednit.
Caleb Perez
Democrats always demand all or nothing. >Red ronny capitulated on an amnesty and it flipped California blue within 2 years.
If trump gives them an inch itll destroy america in 20 years. I mean we are all doomed anyways, but hey why not try.
Praise Jesus, repent, get baptized, its your only hope anons
Jose Thompson
>I agree there is serious need for all kinds of security on the border but Dems are not going to give Trump a single cent
Then it's the dems that look pathetic, like I said. You think they actually believe their own talking points? No. And the sane democrats are slowly starting to come over to the other side while thinking "wait...is border security really a bad thing?", as seen by the increasing support for the wall since the shutdown.
Eli Stewart
>Public opinion has only turned more against Trump during the shutdown post proofs
Noah Harris
The Dems an fuck themselves with a cactus for all I care. It's doesn't effect me one bit that the government is partially closed and I'm sure many other can say the same. Pelosi needs to get off the bottle and act now to agree with Trump. I have heard many democrat congressmen are turning on her and chuck and actually agree with Trumps proposed plan for the wall. It's war now
>muh trolling is it so fucking inconceivable that temporary extensions mean fuckall? and why would the Democrat Party even accept the temporary solution when A) Trump & GOP will win 2020 and renege on it or B) Trump & GOP will lose 2020 and you can push your own ideas regardless. Trump offered nothing worth accepting and in exchange he's asking 5B to essentially boost his ratings.
A permanent solution to DACA, et al. would be negotiating. A solution regarding Medicaid would be negotiating. This is giving the other side everything (PR boost and opening yourself up to even more demeaning) while getting nothing in return. And since Trump claimed he *owns the shutdown* it really makes no sense to accept.
