Change my mind

Romania included except Transylvania, which was under Austrian rule.. The turks fucked the whole thing up..didn't help that we are lazy pieces of shit also.. Modern day villagers just drink and avoid taxes..

Central and Eastern Europe would be more advanced than the west if they weren't infected by capitalism.
FTFY retard

i wouldn't say more than the wet, certainty more than now.

Yes, that's why Central and Eastern Europe were so prosperous before the 20th century.
You should just accept your role as Russian or German territories or buffer zones.

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Have you accepted being retarded America's hat?

Yes, which is why Canada generally follows US foreign policy and maintains good economic, cultural and diplomatic relations.
As a result we don't get invaded every few decades and are generally comfy.
Relying on a country an ocean away for protection is a questionable Eastern European policy.

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But you sucked ass all the written history
There wasnt a single moment when you were as developed, not to say more, than western faggots
You are just trying DA RED MAN KEEPS DA EESTEN EEURO MAN DOWN THIS IS WHY WE BE SO POOR AND SHIEET

>Canada generally follows US foreign policy and maintains good economic, cultural and diplomatic relations.
Strange way of saying Canada is a America's bitch.

True. The communists killed all smart people on purpose.
Look at how Russia was before communism.
It was culturally speaking on the same level as central/western Europe.
They had very high respected writers, composers and academics.

What about St. Petersburg?

Put it however you want, being in the sphere of influence of one great power or the other has been the only way for minor nations to survive, unless you're Switzerland or some other place with highly defensible borders.

Central and eastern europe are more advanced. They went throigh communism and realized its not the path, the west is just starting into communism.

How is Tinder there?
Need a cheap gf and need to waste some paid holidays

We were one of top 10 world economies before "DA RED MAN" ruined everything. Literally go die in North Korea.

Honestly though, all countries between Germany and Russia are meme countries.
The balts should just join together with Finland, the whole balkans belong to Austria-Hungary and the rest should either go to Russia or Germany.

Go fuck your own kind in africa moor.

>It was culturally speaking on the same level as central/western Europe.
Culturally, sure.
But in terms of average living conditions and wealth it was always, and will likely always be poorer than Europe.
Communism changed very little in terms of geopolitics for Russia.
>Russian empire was large and had powerful militarily in need of permanent expansion, but with low productivity and per capita wealth
>SU was large and had powerful militarily in need of permanent expansion, but with low productivity and per capita wealth
The USSR was just a continuation of the standard Russian state with a different ideology.
Because you were part of a german nation you fucking autist.

>What about St. Petersburg?
But Petersburg or Moscow were disproportionate to Russia's size

Besides, Russia never had social estates, it was always Tsar and his narrow circle of advisors and the rest of society

Eastern Europe simply never had a big merchant class. Spain and Portugal too

Im tired of my own people you nigger.

>Soviets taking over, most of our population couldn't even read or write
i never realize that in 1940 before soviets come in estonia it was such horible situation so much in estonia or you are russian living estonia

>The state of Canadian education
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Czechoslovak_Republic

I was in all those you mentioned, lived in France and UK for a while too. Paris and Marseilles are true and disgusting shitholes, London too. Italy is great, but for some reason Italians just can't keep their cities clean. Germany is closest to home, but when we accept that we can argue with Prague or Cesky Krumlov or St. Petersburg, Moscow. Or Warsaw (at least parts that Germans didn't totally glassed) or Budapest which is beautiful too. Point is, your post fucking sucks, sorry Polebro.

>Don't understanding capitalism and communism is just two sides of one poisoned jewish coin.
Come on now, do you even Gajda?

Nigger we were in top 10 world economies before Germans invaded. I will say it again, you dumb subhuman foliageniggers should be banned ip-wide.

See? Again, total debil posting. This board would be so much better without the sickness of leaf.

The post WWI period is not indicative of anything for EE.
Both Germany and Russia, who are the main powers in the region were down.

totally agree
poland however is already taking over the economies of many major nations like sweden (can you believe it? polands gdp is higher than sweden), now we are coming for some smaller western nations (portugal, greece) and afterwards, maybe in like 1-2 decades, we will overtake italy

>Nigger we were in top 10 world economies before Germans invaded.
>before Germans invaded
Germany/Russia invading are par of the course for the region.

>Central Europe
You all do know that Central Europe by definition includes Austria, Switzerland and Germany right?

Not by your own
>muh culture
>muh degeneracy
standards

>X is true.
>No, you see this source shows Y is true
>Noooo, that doesn't count!
Please kys.

>I don't have any clue about history of the region I'm trying to debate about
kys x2

OP, you mean more degenerated, not advanced. Don't mix those two up.

Could be.... but then the west also would be more advanced if not hit also by Jewish leftist politics. Whites everywhere would be more advanced if not for the Jews.

The fact that somebody grows doesn't mean it's better developed or will take over somebody

India has a bigger GDP than Sweden too, but is it well developed? I doubt

And if Romania grows then it still doesn't mean it will take over Germany or Britain, because there's such a thing as middle income trap

Concentrate on GDP per capita and dont turn into an indian colony. Lot is already flying to India.

>Gajda
big brain boy couldn't even start a proper third-position movement and was nothing but plain boring old fascist. lmao

i believe we are a very quickly developing nation, similarly to romania for example. also, india has 1.5 billion people to give salaries to, we only have 37 million and we are coming for our first trillion in gdp soon

>proper third position
Let me guess, muh nazbol meme. If so, then I only have toppest of keks for you.

>can you believe it? polands gdp is higher than sweden
barely, or not at all depending on how you count it. polacks have 4 times bigger population though

my favourite gdp trivia is how warsaw metropolital area has a higher gdp than the whole of ukraine

gdp per capita will grow with the gdp accordingly, i can assure you that soon we will have salaries on the level of estonia, and later even more

Poor countries always grow quick

Spain also used to grow very quick but before Euro it was already stuck at 2/3 of Western GDP. Same will happen to Eastern Europe because of middle income trap

Fuck off Raphael. I’ve beaten up multiple spics in Poland, don’t add yourself to the list

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>Communism
Dost thou forget the centuries of repressive Ottoman rule that kept them away from the Renaissance and Industrial Revolution?

and we didnt even adopt the euro yet, we have a very well grown tourism sector and after we adopt the euro people will start spending them more on local food etc.

How is anything I said in any way inaccurate?
The post-WWI period was such a specific period and short period in European history that could only exist temporarily. Yes, if both Russia and Germany stopped being relevant tomorrow you could be rich, but that's very unlikely to happen.
You were part of German nations for the majority of your history.
Stop being mad because you have no arguments and your nation is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

>adopting Euro
>good
enjoy being the next Greece/Italy/Spain

Southern Slavs. Stop sorting us with the eastern block.

And then you can further increase your welfare and the murzyns can stream right in, right Przemek?
Dont fall for the GDP trap. PIS already has and is bringing in indian IT workers. Money and purchasing power is overrated.

>after we adopt the euro
What?

If we adopt Euro then we will become like Spain or Italy

im fine with that since im pro-migrant, also how is good welfare a bad thing? a good economy isnt supposed to be good just to be good, that money is supposed to be spent on the people

>after we adopt the euro
Youre either a dumb kid or need a good necking.
Why dont you just let Brussels manage the whole country?

no

nice proxy ivan

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no

They wouldn't have communism if they weren't so low IQ to embrace communism. Checkmate.

Poland literally has 2 of the 10 top worst air quality cities in the world because they don't want to use Russian gas or use wood instead of the coal they mine

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Adopting the Euro has literally never worked out for any country that did it unless you're Germany, though. I'm frankly amazed we kept our Kuna even though rumors have been going on we'll switch to Euro in couple of years.

we are supposed to be a union
also lets not lie to ourselves, poland without the eu wont have a good economy because we rely on trade with germany

No its supposed to be spent on the country. Increasing socialism just creates man children that are allergic to work. Trust me, im canadian. A strong country needs to be rich in opportunity, not handouts.

I think we would be more successful if, like Western Europe, we plundered 4/5 of the world for 500 years.

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its like we had the choice

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Don't know about the rest, but here definitely would.

sure, this is why i vote for PO instead of PiS.
PiS wants to give out welfare mindlessly, PO wants to give welfare only to those who have a job

Its supposed to be a trade union. Poland didn't join to give up its sovereignty. Adopting the euro will just mean poland loses monetary control.

yes you are right
they should have stayed in imperial russia :)

>You were part of German nations for the majority of your history.
No. Read more. By the way this is especially rich coming from Canada of all places.

>Yes, if both Russia and Germany stopped being relevant tomorrow you could be rich, but that's very unlikely to happen.
Kek. No. Germany is our greatest trade partner, Russia is pretty big one too. If anything, opposite is true. And it was similar in history. You defeated your own point here - them being weakened only shows how first Czechoslovakian republic was able to work around it to even greater prosperity. Also look what Germans did after they invaded, how they cared about economy of Czechoslovakia.

>your nation is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
Again, look whos talking. Americans should just annex you already.

>adopting euro
Are you fucking bonkers? Even leaf understands how dumb that would be.

well, thats your opinion
cant argue with that

Eastern Europeans were and are still slaves workers for Germany, sorry user...

Honestly I dont know well enough about Polish politics but I will tell you that the government must focus on keeping traditions and boosting the birthrate. The 500 rule isnt that bad although I think a better solution would be to hike the tax rate of individuals over 30 without children and only offer money to families with 3+ kids.

Fuck Russia! If it weren't for them my country would be a little less shit.

Absolut true tovarish. Ura!

Thats not an opinion. You adopt the euro and you lose monetary control. Just take a look at any one of the "piigs" nations

Look whose talking about meme countries.

We have a woman as president. That is why all of us are so fucking retarded.

Lack of access to the Atlantic (colonial age) or mediterranean (commerce), as well as effective distance from London (birth of industry) is magnitudes more relevant to E.Europe's lack of success compared to W.Europe. Communism may have been merely a reaction to this perceived geographical unfortune.

first post best post

we are slaves of germany, but we have ukrainian slaves so its a fine balance

we are so fucked lol

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Why don't you also post your dick while you're at it.

>nazbol
>wants to see other men's dicks
Not surprising at all.

Welfere is your own money spend on drug addicts, prisoners and failures.i dont care about them, just give me my money back and fuck off

Then why it was less advanced before communism? Just accept it, you are inferior.

We are not you, we didn't needed Russians to show us alphabet and not to drink from sewage like you did, bro. We were so much better off before communism, actually top 10 economies in the world.

Czech is smartest slav.
Dont even pay attention to hohols

proof?

>WE WUZ DEVELOPED N SHEEEIT
It's over, deal with it. We are now shithole like rest of eastern europe.

Yeah, no. Nigger I hate to use this dumb fucking sentence, but go outside sometime. I'll take our country before western Europe anytime.

Also stop being such a self-hating cuck, it's a fucking disgrace.

Here we were more advanced than the west during communism.
After the "revolution" our technological and production capabilities were crippled by Economic Assassins.

Your map is missing Ireland, Greece, Austria, Finland, Norway, Turkey and Russia,.. even Belgium.

Czechia was one of the richest country in Europe during its time under Austria-Hungary but than you introduced communism and ethnically cleanced 3 million people.
There is no reason crying over the past just remember which people led the communists so you don't repeat the mistake.

Nah, then why wasn't it more advanced before the invention of communism? The entire area is periphery, therefore lees developed than Germany/France aso. The farther away you go, the more of a shithole you get: think of Portugal and Ireland in the West: traditional shitholes that only recently caught up. Also, you wouldn't want to conflate Czechoslovakia with Bulgaria? Big difference I guess.

Are you the same sprat that spams threads, where he wants to fuck nigger women?