Is it stupid to push for an ethnostate?

Is it stupid to push for an ethnostate?
Wouldn't it be better to push against federalism in general? If the states could decide for themselves whether they wanted socialized healthcare, welfare, and antidiscrimination laws, the U.S. would be balkanized within a century.
Niggers and spics can't compete in a white environment without handouts. Especially in a racist area where whites will simply refuse you service just because you're brown. Why don't we push this instead?

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States don't have walls. Except for Hawaii
Socialism in states won't work w/o Walls

>the U.S. would be balkanized within a century

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checked, I don't know what you're point is but your picture made me laugh anyway

why would you need walls?

No it's not stupid, it will be necessary just to survive when we're an absolute minority & the country resembles South Africa. It'll be a literal state succession once there's nowhere for whites to white flight away to & the feds will try to stop it to complete the genocide, hopefully they don't win.

I just feel like there's so much pushback against the ethnostate thing that it would never work. But if we could approach it naturally, there might be a chance. Really almost makes me think guys like Spencer are controlled opposition, although I don't usually think like that.
Checked again, btw. Kek is in this thread.

States that discriminate along racial lines will get butt fucked by banks and all financial services not to mention the multinational corps. The state would need to be entirely independent and ready to be butt fucked by the entire international community including neighboring states

I don't know, don't businesses usually care about money before morals? Why couldn't people just do their own thing and tell the Jewish elites to fuck off? Regardless, I don't see how that's any different than with the ethnostate.

This. same happened to libya and venezuela now, not saying both are ethnostate, but the external pressure.

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opinion discarded lol

It will naturally form, we're already in micro ethnostates. Ask a normal white person where they like to live & why, the answers will invariably be low crime, good schools, nice area etc aka white areas. They already like the idea of an ethnostate so long as it's framed in a non racial way. Who's leaving California in droves? Whites, expect that to happen on a national scale when Mexicans flood the whole country over & over until there's only one white area left. By then it'll be so bad that they'll be racially aware, it'll take awhile & it'll likely be too late but it's gonna happen.

lol no
this is a limited hangout designed to defuse any feasible ideas by promoting unrealistic larping that poses no threat to anyone
get with the program jack

Putin would love that

Right, I mean everyone knows white flight exists. But right now there are literally no protections against the whole third world slowly seeping in and destroying the country from within. Zero protections. By removing power from the federal government and putting it in the hands of the states, whites actually have some place to go where they can be safe. It's impossible for blacks and hispanics to survive in America without help and without being accepted by their community. Spics wouldn't even be coming here if they knew there wouldn't be gibs.

Oh, yeah. But I don't think we have to dissolve the military just to take away certain powers from the federal government. Shouldn't that be fine?

In the old days, IBM could tally up the body count at the gas chambers in perfect stealth if you know what I mean. With no public outcry.
Today, a white kid gives a smile at the Lincoln memorial and all hell breaks loose.
In what universe will a state just be allowed to become an ethnostate w/o world war III breaking out?

That's what it seems like, doesn't it.

It wouldn't really happen like that. You just remove the power from the federal government, and the states can implement antidiscrimination laws, heathcare, welfare, etc. if they want to. There's no "become an ethnostate." You're being obtuse.

>remove power from the Fed
Goodnight and goodluck

you can have your ethnostate but it wont be in America

Find me politicians who will actually do those things & I'll find you the holy grail. As I said it'll likely be too late for us by the time people wake up but there's literally no evidence it's gonna go any other way than that right now, once Texas flips we're gonna have permanent Democrat presidents. Mark my words, by 2030 Texas will flip & it'll be over. Our only hope is that Dems collapse the economy while we're still a half white country, only then I could see a happy ending for us. But if we stay on this path it'll be as I said & we'll be slow boiled to near death population levels before whites start taking demographics seriously.

>If the states could decide for themselves whether they wanted socialized healthcare, welfare, and antidiscrimination laws, the U.S. would be balkanized within a century.
Let me give you a little road map of what would happen in that scenario. The nigger/spic states quickly grow corrupt, lethargic and incompetent. The niggers/spics then decide that, since you're still in the same country as them, they'll just vote for more federalization so you'll give them the nice things they want. By 2050 there will be 60 of them for every 40 of you in the United States, and they will have a majority of electoral votes due to them demographically flipping Texas and Florida.

>Niggers and spics can't compete in a white environment without handouts. Especially in a racist area where whites will simply refuse you service just because you're brown. Why don't we push this instead?
Whatever happened to that nice Southern fella, Jim Crow? Oh, right. That's what they'd do again.

We're experiencing this firsthand in the EU, where we have a free travel/no customs area.

First the Greeks had a pro-immigration government, so they let in hundreds of thousands of migrants coming in from Turkey.

Then, when the Greeks finally started to implement border security, Italy had a pro-immigration government, so now hundreds of thousands of shitty 80 IQ migrants came in through Italy.

Now that the Italians have an anti-immigration government, it's the Spanish who have elected a pro-immigrant government, so... you get the idea.

Think you're forgetting that this is an alternative to the retarded ethnostate idea. Not saying it'll be easy, but it's a much better idea than "let's take a chunk of america and pay all the niggers and spics to leave." Goodnight user.

I'm not really trying to make an ethnostate, though. I'm just saying it would naturally arise if we stopped paying for niggers and spics to survive here, and if we weren't forced by the government to do business when we don't want to.

that's definitely the worry. I don't know, though. Isn't this something SCOTUS should take care of? I don't think it's impossible.

So maybe we're fucked. Federalism was such a huge mistake. Jews will never let us be happy. Thanks for the blackpill, user. :(

That's exactly how it's supposed to work, though. Different states do things differently, people move to the place they think is doing things the best, has the most to offer them, etc. If you don't want niggers, just don't have welfare.

Even without welfare, my country would be far more functional than anywhere that produces niggers, so the niggers would still come to shit up the place and hold up their hand.

And what I was saying there is, if you have quasi-independent states within one country, what's stopping one from importing a million niggers and sending them to collect free shit from you, voluntarily or by force?

SCOTUS is made up of Gorsuch, trotskyite neocons, women, a nigger & a Jewish cadaver. It's not looking so good desu.

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Man are you fucking retarded or what? How can you even think of pushing one American ethnostate when the people are just a huge mix of African slaves and European immigrants and colonists?

What's stopping someone from sending a million of their niggers over to another state to get gibs? Seems like a silly question.
>voluntarily
there's no welfare in this hypothetical state.
>by force
a military

It's definitely not looking good. Still, if we have to revolt, is it better to revolt and try for the ethnostate or to try and take away power from the federal government?

>italian intellectual
mate, have you read anything in the thread?

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Are they not one in the same? The fed & non whites go together like peanut butter & jelly. When 90% of blacks, 80% of spics, 70% of asians support authoritarian left wing policies-jews & dune coons go without saying- a conservative state is a defacto ethnostate without even intentionally setting it up that way. The fed is their entire source of power, without that they're nothing.

Believe me, a hundred thousand hungry niggers with rusty kalashnikovs would overrun Montana, no problem.

We did not elect the current left-wing gover, they took down the elected goverment at that moment with the help of the libtard-cuck party (Podemos). We just couldn't do anything :"(

That's another problem to add to the list, then. Internal political squabbles (as in Spain) or even the EU's intervention (as in Greece and Italy) can flip a country towards a pro-immigration government.