The best country in the Europe to immigrate for non-EU user?

Russia is full of shit as well. I am not a hater unlike others in Uganda, but it like changing unstable shit for a stable one.

>aiding a nigger

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Well actually I was thinking about Norway, Denmark and Netherlands. Does Norway suck?

Switzerland is a best option, but it is quite expensive and I am not sure that I will be even a middle class there. Also it looks like it is nearly impossible to get there from countries like Uganda.

Also, does anyone know if Munich suffers the immigrants as much as the other parts of Germany? I saw there a lot of job opportunities and it looks like the cost of living is a bit higher comparing to other cities in Germany.

Бiмп

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Norway does not suck, it is a good country. As you might know, due to oil everything in regards to prices are very elevated.

I suppose if you have a job right from the start, then that is not as much of a problem, I really don't know how much money you would need to get started there, but it is probably not hard to find out.

Norway has some of the same immigration problems that Sweden has had, but not nearly as bad or on the same scale. I also think the population in general are more aware of the effects of unfethered immigration. They are also not in the EU. All of the countries that you have listed offer good opportunities for software developers. Pick a path, find out what preparations you need to do and go for it. Your first job might not be up to par, but once you are in the country then you have a certain peace of mind and can pick and choose from offers just like the rest of the natives.

The industry that you are in offers a high degree of mobility, both geographically and financially. I think the most imporant part is to land your first job there and then you can apply for a new one every 12-18 months to move up the ladder if you feel that you have some catching up to do in order to live middle class.

Cъeби yжe в paшкy. Бyдeшь кaк пидapaшки гoвнo ecть чepeз пapy лeт.

Thanks buddy, It makes a picture more clear.

Last question: is Sweden really in such a troble with muslims as it is described in the internet? Because its hard to differ propaganda from truth.

Oбязaтeльнo.

Unfortunately, I think the decline is than you could imagine. I know first hand because I live in Malmö, which is beyond doubt the city worst affected by these reckless policies.

Sweden still offers good opportunities in terms of career options, education and attractive companies as well as a high standard of living. But much like you, I know that my country has no future. It is not a place to raise a family, it is not a place that I would trust future generations of my family would like to live.

I would caution you to root in any country dominated by socialists , or socialist policies. I hope Europe will one day decide to rid itself of the muslim scourge. But anyways, your greatest asset is your youth and your software development skills. As long as you maintain that skill and stay informed about the country you choose to live in, everything will turn out fine. Best of luck!

is worse than you could imagine*

Thank you for all the information and advices.

I heard about the Malmo from one Russian TV program. I wish you to manage the relocation to a better place.

Good luck, my friend!

Dont come here, you black nigger

>software developer

Why not. You could come here. There is fuckton of Ukros already. Most of them are hardworking brainlets but you get used to them. Some ukrainian mob but as longs as you stay away from drugs and prostitution you should be ok.

Another pick could be Poland or Slovakia.

Save up and try to do a Master's in Switzerland. Then work there 5,000 starting.

No. Too many ukros already and businesses based on paying shit to those ukros.

Germany. Very high salaries, good perks, weak women.

I want to move with my gf, so 5000 is like a nothing for 2 persons in Switzerland. I am also not sure that she will be permitted to work(counting on her being my wife in future).

What about the muslim problem?

are you ethnically a Ugandan (Christian / atheist?) and just on a working visa in Ukraine? Where is your girlfriend from?

It just a joke(probably a bad one since someone tried to offend me as nigger) since Uganda and Ukraine are both in a deep shit. I am a Ukrainian.

I would say Latvia (especially for software developers), but we have more than enough slavs already, so go elsewhere.

Stay in Ukraine. Don't be a migrating paki

MAny people here are autistic, so that could be a factor in not understanding bad jokes as well.

If you're Ukrainian, my guess is you'll be quite welcome in some countries. If you come to the NL, Eindhoven would be a city for software developers. Although you won't escape the migration vibrations there. Basically any place that has jobs, has migrants (and I don't mean the skilled /European kind)

Fuck off we're full

I was in the Netherlands the last autumn. Have visited Amsterdam, Utrecht, Rotterdam, The Hague and bunch of small towns like Monnickendam in the North Holland(actually they look more like villages from the Ukrainian perspective, but in a good sence). Amsterdam is kinda messy, but its still hard to complain. Other places looked lovely.

I heard that there is a big issue with medicine in the Netherlands, is that true? I mean its hard to get futher than your local family doctor even if you have some serious illness.

This is true. My Russian/Ukrainian friend also complains of this. He actually goes to Germany or the Czech Republic for medical services.
For me, it's quite the normal deal, but it is a serious problem if you have a serious medical problem. waiting for 3 months before you can (finally) go to a hospital to speak to an medical expert is quite normal

if they know what is your illness, you might get help quicker, or if the symptoms are very bad. But from personal (family) experience, I can say it is quite shameful for a country this wealthy

Well I don't have such a bad health(except of my predisposition to the flu), but it sounds crazy to me. Does other countries have such problem? Talking about Norway, Denmark.

[spoiler]I know you might not aware, but I got mixed opinions from the internet [/spoiler]

*Do other countries have such problem?

he supports all of africa...

yet he disowns his own god damn fucking son.
you fucking digusting excuse of a human being, yes I am not talking to you, I am talking to your flag. you disgusting fucking shits. I hope the samis put spells on you for this...thinking off it, they probably already have.... fug... samis? what did you do to sven?

did you use the drum again? that's a BAD SAMI you don't use drums like this

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I've noticed a lot of Ukrainians in Hungary recently. I live in a commieblock, and they sit on the benches in the surrounding parks, listen to Slav music and drink cheap beer from the local Aldi all the fucking time. They weren't obnoxiously loud and haven't really bothered me so whatever.

well bump memes aside and it's not snitching or anything but sweden is very invested in ukraine

I don't know about Norway or Denmark, but I presume Denmark is better. (I always perceived Denmark as similar to the NL, except more socialist and a bit more white(%wise), so you pay more in taxes, but there are also more services that are free. Therefore I would assume that their healthcare would be better than here, but that is a mere guess)

Also, why is predisposition to the flu so common in Eastern Europe? (talking from experience from Baltic, Ukrainians and Russians that I know)

BAD SAMI
THAT'S A BAD SAMI
you cursed sven with your magic and now he is all fucked up

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Isn't Hungary getting more xenophobic? I heard that somewhere

Have no clue lol. I could think of the nasty weather that we have sometimes, but I am not sure that it is an argument for someone who lives in the Netherlands.

their health care is a lot better than ours. here you can risk up ending in a line for operation for lit 1-2 years or so, denmark is not like this

as we say in danish "Det er dejligt at være norsk i Danmark". It is lovely to be norse in Denmark. Denmark is fucking comfy I would love to live there, they are so chill there, not like here where everything is so anus upthight. Danes are so fucking cool

That is actually very good to know. Thanks.

With people acting like that, people are becoming more intolerant to such types.

Haha, no. The weather here is worse than in Eastern Europe, from what they've told me. Especially the wind and the rain. The wind makes winter feel much colder than in EE.
I thought it is maybe because you get regular flu shots there, whereas here that is not quite common among young healthy people

Ah, that's enlightening, thanks.

if your a woman contact a cruise ship.

btw weed and hashis is quasi legal in denmark, it used to be this place in copenhagen where they sold it in the open like in amsterdam. I was there a couple of times in my teens, but I don't know the status now though as I don't the hash stuff and shit

regardless this was the 90ies, and norway like greenland was the end of the road so we got the worst crap... well it changed later, regardless, I went to denmark and I smoked some of their hashis... my god, they had to drag me on the train(we had rented cabbins in jylland)... then on the train I thought everyone was the CIA, so I said to everyone HUSH... they are listening.... then I fell a sleep

my damn. danes are so liberal like in ukraine you can just buy vodka at the gas station. here in norway... you have to go the state monopoly....
yes user you read right. the soviet union is over..... ... ...

Well I got flu 3 times in the last 6 month. And this fucking starts with someone getting to the job with stuffy nose with rejection to come home.

HUSH THEY ARE LISTENING!

I guess my shit didn't exactly start with anonymous, when reflecting

It's complicated. The government is on full anti-immigration/anti-Soros propaganda mode since 2015/6, but it's mostly propaganda and most Hungarians don't have anything against most foreigners as long as they behave well.
I've heard Chinks who worked in all over Europe that they prefer to live here as people were quite racist against them in Spain or France while they haven't really encountered any hostility in Hungary. Of course those were Chinks who bothered to try to learn the language of their host country and somewhat understood that our business ethics are different than in China and some honesty goes a long way when dealing with Europeans.
Although its different with non-Europeans/Asians, Niggers tend to get some weird looks and Muslims get some verbal insuls sometimes and of course everyone hates gypsies.

I didn't get the flu once from 10-20 years old

Sounds pretty okay from my perspective.

I may be wrong but i went to Warsaw about two years ago and what struck me is how many poles and Russians don't cover their mouth or look away when they cough, they would just cough everyone in the face, i remember it bothered the hell out of me. Maybe that's why Eastern Euros are more prone to the flu.

Lucky bastard is all I can say. Also I thought now that the reason for that can be the shitty ecology in the Ukraine(can't say for neighbor countries)

I don't know the history but we got like a hand full of chinks here, I don't know the history but they have been here since I was a kid. they are npp, the vietnamese however had a period of extreme "unlawfullness" but that changed after. like you have "chieftains" here in norway, I was one and you had a vietmase one. back then we were fierce enemies, but later today we met, and now we're best buddies... the problem was then that they ate this tablets called rohypnol, it made them crazy... I won't go to detail with this

but the chinese? no, all they do is run some resturant. I was learned chinese when I was a kid, they fooled me, I thought I was running around saying FUCK YOU... and general swearing, but now, FUCK YOU was actually THANK YOU.. and as an adult now, how fucking sweet isn't that. I first learned it after I graduated, while waiting for the train I went to this chinese pub and I told the owner I knew how to swear, and he replied.... you said thank you?

also why are you trying to block me? what is happening, what are we missing? it's about julian

Everyone all eyes on wikileaks

It is also very common for males to do a handshake when greet each other. I am not sure that it is common in Europe. I stopped to do that after I handshaked a guy with a flu and caught it again.

in english it goes I guess "Shi Shin" Tank you

post post post
test

kys ukropitec

I almost always greet people with a handshake. Also,

if you are exposed to others' bacteria and viruses, you become more immune. So instead of trying to avoid people who are sick, I get a little extra close (lol). I also worked at a register for nearly two years, where customers would cough on you / on the cash and give it to you
Don't blame me if you get sick by doing the same that I did though, it's probably partly genetics

Also, I'm going back to Bible readings, since it's Sabbath. Good luck Ukrainianon

Nah, I am fine with that.

Good luck, dutch buddy!

France is congo you are wellcome

test
absolutely æsj
>send the kitty in the coalmine

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normandie free when?

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(translate but censored...ofc)
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at first I didn't get why charlemagne started to cry, but I get it now, he cried for what he had unleashed upon europep.... holy war, the viking age
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just because such norse groves I can't move

Another slave is looking for a better owner.
Instead of enjoying the last drops of freedom in the whole world and doomed struggle for it.

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Jow Forums:
>EU has gone to absolute shit
>we hate immigrants from shithole countries
also Jow Forums:
>I want out of my shithole country and go live in a good EU country

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Пoдякyємo зa тoмac?

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dont come to poland

No gibs here for you Ivan, go back to russia.

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Berlin. All you gotta do is show up and get a job, the "employer" will then send you an employment letter, you'll get your "blue card" and a citizenship in 6 years if you learn the language.

I heard that Berlin is full of muslim bros.

well thank you for coming here user, thank you very much. at this moment here in norway we are actively being blocked out from this site. I must have missed the notice, I don't know why I am drinking, but they are blocking shit here now

if the target (finally) is me, or nation wide I don't know yet... I am just drinking but Jow Forums well google keeps on gassing me..... so I have to resolve to old tactics

don't even go there, seriously. basically baghdad or how you spell it

achmed humamed kebab jihad muhamed kebab ummah

wienerschnitzel bitte?
>RASISMUS! POLITZEI

The UK has a complex economy with lots of opportunities for someone on your field. We have largely avoided the refugee crisis too.

If you avoid London and the south east everywhere is 95%+ white.

Try looking at Edinburgh. Lots of fintech and other software jobs. High quality of life, lots of culture and welcoming of other white people who can work hard and enjoy a drink.

is something happening why were we blocked here? was it a test?... wait a minute I know this it was the jews wasn't it?

Move to Bulgaria dirty slav.

but seriously how close are you and hungary really? yes yes I know you want to stab everyone and shit, everyone knows this, but how close are you and the magyars. like language wise, culture wise..well stupid question you are a stupid nord just like me

Ukraine is actually the best place in Europe for software developers because of very low CoL and only 5% tax rate. I am surprised you want to move.

Just work remote for companies or clients in developed country that will pay you the salary of said country and save all of it.

Plus Ukraine has 0 migrant. Any country in the west will have result of migrant crisis.

Is there any major drawbacks in Scotland like medicine, transport system, rent etc.? I don't know why, but I avoid GB(actually London and England, was not thinking about Scotland and Ireland). For some reason I though you guys are not very into foreigrners(again, was thinking about English).

I answered about that in this post

Switzerland looks a lot like France now... And except Google the salaries are not that good if you consider the cost of living.

ikr. It is not worth to go to Switzerland unless you get offer from Google(which is quite a challenge).

type it random here... it's a childhood frendess of mine....

right now her really extreme archtype strict finnish mother died... she did as finns do she pulled through christmas, held out, then she died..

now she is probably lurking here already, I really like her, but the first there I had another relationship... I said strictly no... that went down the toilet, but at least I didn't just trade as they do...

still now... I stand here... but I would have a step son.... I love her so much... I always have, she has these extremely massive titts and finnish/samie eyes, you know almost like asians.... I dont know what to do

But I wonder why you compared Swiss to France tho. Does Swiss have problem with blacks and arabs?

Can anyone tell anything about Munich and if there any problems with immigrants there?

Okay but the truth is that any western country that pays good salary (UK, France, Germany, Netherlands...) has not a better future than Ukraine. I dont think you will find a more satisfying life here, we are literally flooded, exterminated and we have to pay for it with taxes.

I think Poland would better suit your needs but it is higher taxes and col than Ukraine with similar salary.

Maybe Italy if Salvini manages to stay into power for a long time. But salaries for dev are quite sad there.

Yes, Switzerland is circled by France and Germany they cannot escape our fate. The french part of Switzerland looks exactly like France while the german part keeps things together for now but it wont be long before they are overrun as well.

I think mostly albanians, though I am not an expert

Okay. What if we will take into a count Canada? I am avoiding countries like Australia because of high temparature.

Interesting. I thought that Switzerland has closed door politics for low skilled migrants.

>software developer
Poland/Czech for comfy or Switzerland for money.
Rest is pointless money wise and doesn't provide enough social upgrades to be worth it (and is also filled with arabs).

t. Ukrainian living in Poland for 4 years, refusing to accept offers from Germany and France.

I have never been to Canada but they have a French part so I would not get my hopes up.

Another I did not think about in Europe is Ireland. Plenty of good companies there and they seem to attract less criminals and welfare abusers than us for a reason I am not aware of.

mate go to denmark, it is not so alien to you. canada is seriously fucked, danes are based. and say this a country that hate those son of a bitchs. basically norway-denmark, is almost well not ukraine-russia, thing is it's really nice there and danes are very helpfull. however the speak weird and they don't count like you and me, danes count in 20ies.... so you go to the store and buy a soda or whatever, and they go that will be four and a half fithts... so you.... just give them your wallet.... they shake their head and say FOUR AND A HALF FIFTHS
nobody knows what that means

initially we thought it was just some code to get to our fish, but no is not. Nobody has ever had a better horse than rimfaxe, of eirik jarl, they have still to show them selves

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>initially we thought it was just some code to get to our fish, but no is not. Nobody has ever had a better horse than rimfaxe, of eirik jarl, they have still to show them selves
this last insertion came because I am listening to saga stuff.

it goes like this
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I guess pre olympics shit about horses...
>the time were norway and iceland were one
>and the orkneys...

yeah they are us too.... but... they have been scotted...