Religion

No idea, I guess people assume the original religions have more credibility than christianity because they were the originals. I only ever see these views on here though, is it a common view in Europe?

Jesus wasn't the cuck, the Jews killed him. The cucks are the Israel worshippers in the churches, phony businesses controlled by ZOG and the IRS.

You are so fucking stupid to be parroting those Jewish talking points when in fact all good Christians are quietly training their deception, survival, and paramilitary skills ahead of Ragnarok itself

But go ahead and keep stuffing delusions into your waking mind and projecting your faggotry, it only makes it easier to harvest your soul and loot your corpse when it finally goes nuclear hot

Then you could be pagan cucks. or Nord cucks, I mean they have secular humanism and multiculturalism do what's the fucking point? You are still giving shit-skins spiritual power over you,

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If they were at least warriors, they would be respectable but they tend to be the most pathetic physical specimens and mentally unstable at that. They are about the most non-threatening people in existence who live only to slowly destroy their bodies through degenerate hedonism in the name of "rituals" never practiced by true pagans of old.

In Romania nobody really gives a shit about religion besides old people unless is Easter or Christmas and I dont think in western Europe is any better
I didn't say Jesus was a cuck and I dont deny that he was against Jewish merchants

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There is The Golden Goy who at least promotes going to the gym

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What do you call niggers who believe in voodoo magic and eating albino humans?

In baltics most of the older people are no longer religious after the soviet deportations and mass death, the younger people might be

I was implying them becoming nordic pagans that's why I posted that picture
I dont think there is anyone interested in religion in here unless you come from a religious family. Not saying that the people are atheist they agree there is a god but they don't do any of its teachings

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they all look how I expect them to except the Based "we're not racist" nignog they have

Nothing but it’s not part of their culture so they’re probably deterred by that. Why would that matter? There are millions of black Christians and there’s even less stopping them from becoming Christians

So in other words both are shit because neither actively stop foreigners from practicing them

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Because the Aryan Gods hate shitskins.

Reminder that Jesus was a Jew Supremacist.

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There is no evidence that Odin only favored the white man in the pre-Christian north. The only "proof" is that those of the north were white so statistically Odin's hall would have been made up of white men.

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What we know thanks to Tacitus is that the Germans were an extremly racial homogenous group.
Though we also know that according to the Vedas, Indra hates shitskins and Indra equals Thor.

Indra ?A shitskins hating other shitskins? Wow! And does that mean all white nordic people worship a shitskin ?

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They get shunned by actual pagans. Simple folkish-universalist divide.

I tend to belivevthey would get shunned more by their own people than pagans

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>Indra
>a shitskin
Read the Rig Veda.
>Rg.V. X 96.8: At the swift draught the Soma-drinker waxed in might, the Iron One with yellow beard and yellow hair.
>Rg.V. II 12.6: "Stirrer to action of the poor and lowly, of priest, of suppliant who sings his praises; Who, fair-faced, favours him who presses Soma with stones made ready, He, O men, is Indra”.
>Rg.V. IX 73.5: “O’er Sire and Mother they have roared in unison bright with the verse of praise, burning up riteless men, blowing away with supernatural might from earth and from the heavens the swarthy (black) skin which Indra hates”.

LARPagans are all trannies and liberals and cringy hippies

Here's what bothers me about both sides, a lot of pagans attract skinheads and ex cons while Christians attract those who really don't want to be Christian, but enjoy what Christianity can do for them i.e childcare, community and someplace to network.

Thing with the Christian religion is they are supposed to accept all, willing to bet a good chunk of the people in that pic were shit on by christians as kids, the throw away people no one wanted. Christians are a funny lot, also quite easy to exploit. I've seen it a lot, shit women and desu shit men joining up and exploiting the system for what it's worth. Far easier for women to do it than men just because how the religion is nowadays, one of the first things they do is play the part of a clean living Christian woman and try to get a guy, they wait till he falls for her before she brings her kids into the picture.
Same can be said of pagans sadly, we do tend to get the fuck ups who won't take care of themselves physically and end up the way they are.

Here's a question for those of you who are pagan, just how much serious study have you done?

>Jesus wants you to murder in his name

Judge not, lest you be judged. Means let people sin, God will deal with it, not you. Just be a good example by living a righteous life.

Dumb christcuck doesn't even know his own religion.

> Revelation 22:11

He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he that is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

You forgot the go your way and sin no more, funny how Christians always gloss over that part. No personal responsibility, integrity or accountablity. No wonder the religion is failing.

Just what's on my desk at the moment. I also have the vikernes/cachet paganism books, and your usual smattering of Greek philosophy. I may look into Kant when I'm done with the Enchiridion. I also responded to quite a bit of slander on this site, like the (((greenberg))) claim of Odin drinking cum (which he made up and cited a source that doesn't mention that at all), and the arrogant, falsehood-laden Latin-using Christian (PRIMUS, SECONDUS, etc).

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Read this it has a ton of info about the religion and traditions of our ancestors

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>greek mutt promoting norse paganism and varg
why am i not even surprised?

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and they say bongs are smart

I also noticed there's a lot of Albanians commenting in Varg's videos.
HAHAHAHAHA

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? Varg's interpretation is a pan-european one.
Have you read Stephen McNallen? He's a swell guy with lots of nice conversations uploaded to his YouTube, but I never read his stuff. Way back when, I read a edred thorson's a book of troth in a free PDF. It's been a long process, getting where I am now.

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Is it? What is it about the blonde hair and blue eyes argument that people claim he believes in?

Christianity is incompatible with capitalism. Capitalism is all about selfishness, self-interest, revenue, being effective and muh dick.

Christianity is about society, responsibility, patience, turning the other cheek, forgiveness and patience. If you practice these you end up on the street or other sorry place.

>he
wow dont be so ignorant, bigot.

Hey yo Greeks have given us a majority of the best Pagan myths and legends as well as a lot of the witchcraft seen today and prophets and the Oracle at Delphi show some respect you twat.

Mind restating that? Didn't see a proper question.

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I have exactly the same book by Mary Beard

some people claim that Varg is a Nordicist or whatever it's called and he doesn;t consider brown haired and brown eyed people true Europeans

1. We don't know the full historical context, which is very important. Cherry-picking interpretations of ancient texts to suit your fancy is disingenuous.

2. It could be some kind of war with Dravidians or etc. I doubt the "fair-faced" is meant to refer to a Nordic upper-class.

3. You are becoming just as stupid as Americunts who shart in their pants. I blame America's exporting of media to your country.

>Hey yo Greeks have given us a majority of the best Pagan myths and legends as well as a lot of the witchcraft.

The work of the Greeks gave you the source of Christianity and in turn the Christians turned it into Gnostic BS and then promptly went about discrediting it, inventing terms such as "Pagan", "Heathen" and other nonsense.

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What's interesting is the debates between European Christians and Pagans parallels that debates between Iranian Muslims and Zoroastrians in many regards. However, I want to add one point, more Zoroastrian texts and celebrations were preserved. The Gathas goes back to Zarathustra ~800-1100 BCE, and I prefer Mary Boyce's translation.

Conceptually nothing's wrong with choosing to believe in pagan gods, at least no more than choosing to believe any other god, really. The part that Jow Forums ought to at least be tangentially aware of from a historical perspective is the effect christian faiths such as Catholicism and orthodoxy have had on western society/western values as a binding agent. Before the Frankfurt school and its cultural marxism took root in the western world during the 60s traditional christian faiths acted as one of the many pillars that held up what we understand to be western society and western values, while things such a paganism and atheism carried the odor of their proprietors of the day, national socialism and communism, respectively. While I'm not making the claim that NatSocs is in any way detrimental to the western society we look to achieve and protect, you have to take into account that the task of red-pilling society and undoing the social, economic and moral rot of 60 years is a slow, delicate, gradual process that must account for history and cultural movements as time progressed. The aim is to reaffirm what was great, why it was great and what everyday people can do to try and approach this state of being again. This involves reaffirming the importance of family and community, and from a functional and historical angle to easiest way to reinforce that among the masses is to approach from a soft christian angle. Again, nothing wrong with the moral, ethical, physical and psychological "toughness" that some pagans espouse, or even atheism, really, but this is an anonymous image board first and foremost- anyone can post anything here. You can control what people perceive but you can't control what they think. When you bring up the idea of traditional Nordic paganism ala Odin you have to be of the mind "Do these people respect the underlying message of my beliefs, or is this easy to whitewash as bigotry or some remnant of ebil nazis/marvel escapism?"

Hearts and minds, user.

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Swedefag here. I was thinking about joining the pagans a while back, they are the biggest cucks of all time.

What context? It's a description of Indra's appearance.
>I doubt the "fair-faced" is meant to refer to a Nordic upper-class
We are talking about the God of the Aryans in a society with racial caste system. What else do you think fair-faced is talking about?

Whites should unite for the betterment of our race no matter what our religions may be.

All his depictions showed him with black hair , shaved or with moustache, ty for pointing that out and can u tell me why Vishnu , Krishna , Rama are described with dark complexions ?
Also this
Couldn't agree more
Sorry

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>Conceptually nothing's wrong with choosing to believe in pagan gods, at least no more than choosing to believe any other god, really

Really? You actually believe that there's nothing wrong with a human trying to talk about and believe in what he does not know?

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i didn't know protestants used the title "bishop" and i know catholics don't let women join the clergy so what the fuck is going on?

Bishops exists in scandinavia. Luther was clear that the word and sacraments was the essence of the church, how it was build was less important. the churches of Scandinavia have bishops, the churches of the US for example doesn't.

You quote things out of context. Indra is entirely golden in many translations. You are an utter retarded buffoon. Slit your throat, you disingenuous lying cunt.

Indra is a literal solar god, you low-IQ filth.

"Rigveda actually speaks about golden Indra, entirely golden with even golden horses. (or bay horses)

Yajurveda talks of Rudra having golden hands.

Vedas talk of sun having long hair.

Dasyus hiding under blackness.

Agni who is dazzling white. (Shukra)

What insolent mortal realizes the symbolism!"

Odin is just an allegory for the true Pagan God, so is shiva and many others.
Humanity is Pagan, Christianity and Islam are alien Jewish beliefs.

trump

Why is Jesus depicted with long hair, even though he clearly states in the bible men should have short hair?
Should I quote the entire Veda? Read it for yourself if you want the context.

No. Belief is a choice, and it comes from many different places and motivations. Our understanding of everything is laughable, and the scale of time and frame of reference/perspective most people have to work with does not have any ultimate insight or "meaning of life". Put simply, the average joe working form paycheck to paycheck isn't looking for nirvana, and probably never will be.

We need to work towards a goal that all things considered, is almost impossible. Your aspirations and demands of the unwashed masses are too steep as a starting point to be tenable. At least right now. I don't knock where you're coming from, but that's ideology you hold is closer to a more advanced step than a prerequisite to proper change.

This will take time, and no shortage of wrought-iron rhetoric. That specific flavor of stoicism isn't probably the best starting point.

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He believes that Europeans were originally blonde, yes, and that they have taken on other traits by admixture. He's not calling brown-eyed people shitskins or whatever.
Maybe I'll take a look.
That's well and good, but I'm not so interested in mass appeal anymore. It pains me, but I don't think that everyone, or even the majority, are ever going to be onboard.
>binding agent
Think for a second about the grand history of European warfare. The unbelievable sacrifices and efforts carried out to conquer fellow Christians, to change their religion, to forge nations, etc. I think you may have been tricked by a romanticized picture of our past, and maybe influenced also by the pax Americana since ww2.
Go on being a fag, then.

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This picture smells bad

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I did read it myself. Indra is a literal solar god. He is golden because he is supposed to represent the sun. Shiva is blue btw. Indians had trippy stuff like that.

I'm sick and tired of Jow Forums's retarded Nordicist bullshit.

Beautiful
Even Muslims?
World's First Lesbian Bishop Calls for Church to Remove Crosses
The Bishop of Stockholm has proposed a church in her diocese remove all signs of the cross and put down markings

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socialism doesn't work, libtard

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Gross, everyone in your picture is a fat neck bearded cuck, and then a random black guy.

>World's First Lesbian Bishop Calls for Church to Remove Crosses
>The Bishop of Stockholm has proposed a church in her diocese remove all signs of the cross and put down markings
why be christian if you hate christianity? not a good sign of what women can do

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It has a certain appeal, really...there is a problem with politically motivated scientists like David Reich, though.

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Blood stops them.

I'm sick and tired of you mongrels, who have no own culture and try to steal it from the Aryans.

>no Italy
But I want to redpill my friends.

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>Shiva is blue btw.
Shiva is grey(even in some slavic languages siva is the word for grey).
Blue is the other, the five headed guy

Ohh! dat SPQR, read any of that yet? It's on my reading list which is fucking huge. I'm going to tackle Evola before I bother with anything else. I've read my share of pagan literature, I want to have a better foundation before I do anything else. Ever hear of the Tyr Journal? They have a book out called summoning the gods, it would fit into your stack there quite nicely. Pic related.
Based.
Think what scares me a bit is how the Evangelicals are going, they're more or less acting like the Catholic Church did back in the day, amassing power and not hiding their shit behavior at all. We've had it made here in the states for centuries, religion was just something for the community, now it really is becoming about what it's always been about, power and social control.

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I agree ,can you u tell me why Vishnu , Krishna , Rama are described with dark complexions

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>>binding agent
>Think for a second about the grand history of European warfare. The unbelievable sacrifices and efforts carried out to conquer fellow Christians, to change their religion, to forge nations, etc.
There have been many attempts to unite the christian faiths, stamp out undesirable branches or outright annihilate all of it no shortage of times, yes. This isn't relegated to a religious frame of reference either, of course. I contend that as time has progressed those fires of war and conflict had burned long enough and worked out enough "impurities"(opportunities for large-scale conflict?), to temper European and American society into something a little less protean and amoebic than you give it credit for.
>I think you may have been tricked by a romanticized picture of our past, and maybe influenced also by the pax Americana since ww2.
Undoubtedly. I don't deny I'm whitewashing this a little bit so I can apply a rose-tint that I like. I also maintain that that rose-tint is the underlying motivation for the actions we take on Jow Forums; or at the very least how I like to view and conduct my own actions. The collective history of christianity and europe is soaked in blood and conflict, no doubt. This doesn't change or detract from the good bits we try to cling to to make our societies great again, however.

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Because it represent part of the culture who created them and such shaped them similar to their facial features and whatever those people believed as being important.

>No. Belief is a choice, and it comes from many different places and motivations.

One can believe in unicorns and fairies. Doesn't make them real. NO, that is NOT a comparison to people who believe in god. It is a "fallacy of reification".
There are far too many religions but many of them share in common that there is a "supreme omnipotence" greater then they. So how do you understand what is omnipotent? Would omnipotence even think? No it would be all knowing.

>At least right now. I don't knock where you're coming from, but that's ideology you hold is closer to a more advanced step than a prerequisite to proper change.

Wrong. See the higher you stack the lies, the bigger the tumble will be. All it takes is a special little "push" for them all to topple over, the higher the better.

>This will take time, and no shortage of wrought-iron rhetoric. That specific flavor of stoicism isn't probably the best starting point.

Monism? You mean the actual starting point is a bad starting point? Do you see your own psychosis?

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Jeses wore a dress.
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THE WALL OF ASGARD

Thor had gone to the east to fight trolls. Asgard was more peaceful without him, but it was also unprotected. This was in the early days, shortly after the treaty between the Aesir and the Vanir, when the gods were still making a home for themselves and Asgard was undefended.
“We cannot rely on Thor,” said Odin. “We need protection. Giants will come. Trolls will come.”
“What do you propose?” asked Heimdall, the watchman of the gods.
“A wall.” said Odin. “High enough to keep out frost giants. Thick enough that not even the strongest troll could batter its way through.”
“Building such a wall,” said Loki. “so high and so thick, would take us many years.”
Odin nodded his agreement. “But still,” he said. “we need a wall.”
The next day, a newcomer arrived in Asgard. He was a big man, dressed as a smith, and behind him trudged a horse- a stallion, huge and grey, with a broad back.
“They say you need a wall built.” said the stranger.
“Go on,” said Odin.
“I can build you a wall,” said the stranger. “Build it so high that the tallest giant could not climb it, so thick that the strongest troll could not batter through it. I can build it so well, by placing stone upon stone, that not an ant could find space enough to crawl through it. I will build you a wall that will last for a thousand thousand years.”
“Such a wall would take a very long time to make,” said Loki.
“Not at all,” said the stranger.” I can build it in three seasons. Tomorrow is the first day of winter. It would take me a winter, a summer and another winter to build.”
“And if you could do this,” said Odin “what would you ask in return?”
“I need little enough payment for what I am offering,” said the man. “Only three things. First, I would like the beautiful goddess Freya’s hand in marriage.”

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“That is not a little thing,” said Odin. “And it would not surprise me if Freya had her own opinions about the matter. What are the other two things?”
The stranger grinned a cocky grin. “If I build your wall,” he said. “I want the hand of Freya, and I also want the sun that shines in the sky by day, and I want the moon that gives us light at night. These three things are what the gods will give me if I build your wall.”
The gods looked at Freya. She said nothing, but her lips were pressed together and her face was white with anger. Around her neck was her necklace of the Brisings, which shone like the Northern Lights as it brushed her skin, and her hair was banded in gold, which was almost as bright as the hair itself.
“Go and wait outside,” said Odin to the stranger. The man walked away, not before asking where he could find food and water for his stallion, which was called Svadilfari, which means “one who makes an unlucky journey”.
Odin rubbed his forehead. Then he turned and looked at all the gods.
“Well?” asked Odin.
The gods began to talk.
“Quite!” shouted Odin. “One at a time!”
Each of the gods and goddesses had an opinion, and every one of them was of the same opinion: that Freya, the sun and the moon were all too important and too valuable to be given to a strange, even if he could build the wall they needed in three seasons.
Freya had an additional opinion. She felt that the man should be beaten for his impertinence, then thrown out of Asgard and sent on his way.
“So,” said Odin the all-father. “We are decided. We say no.”
There was a dry cough from the corner of the hall. The kind of cough intended to catch people’s attention. The gods turned to see who coughed. They found themselves looking at Loki, who stared back at them, and who smiled and held up a finger as if he had something important to divulge.
“It is worth my pointing out,” he said, “that you are ignoring something huge.”

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“I do not think we have overlooked a single thing, troublemaker of the gods.” said Freya tartly
“You are all overlooking,” he said, “that what this stranger is proposing to do is, to make no bones about it, quite impossible. There is no one alive who could build a wall so high and so thick as the one he described, and have it finished in 18 months. Not a giant or a god could do this, let alone a mortal man. I would stake my skin on it.”
At this the gods all nodded and grunted and looked impressed. All of them except for Freya. And she looked angry. “You are fools,” she said. “Especially you, Loki, because you think yourself clever.”
“What he says he can do,” said Loki, “is an impossible task. So I suggest this: we agree to his demands and to his price, but we set him stiff conditions- he may have no help building his wall, and instead of three seasons to build his wall, he has but one. If on the first day of summer any of the wall is unfinished- and it will be- then we pay him nothing at all.”
“Why would he agree to that?” asked Heimdall.
“And what advantage would that give us over not having a wall at all?” asked Frey, Freya’s brother.
Loki tried to suppress his impatience. Were all the gods fools?! He began to explain, as if he were explaining to a small child. “The smith will begin to build his wall. He will not finish it. He will work for six months, unpaid, on a fool’s errand. At the end of six months we will drive him away- we might even beat him for his presumptions- and then we can use whatever he has done so far as the foundations of the wall that we will build in they years to come. There is no risk to us of losing Freya, let alone the sun or moon.”
“Why would he say yes to building it in a season?” asked Tyr, god of war.
“He may not say yes, but he seems arrogant and sure of himself, and not the kind to refuse a challenge.” Said Loki.

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All the gods grunted and clapped Loki on the back and told him he was a very crafty fellow and it was a good thing he was crafty and, on their side, and now they could get their foundations built for nothing, and they congratulated each other on their intelligence and their bargaining ability.
Freya said nothing. She fingered her necklace of light, the gift of the Brisings. This was the same necklace that had been stolen from her by Loki in the form of a seal, when she was bathing, and that Heimdall had fought in seal form to with Loki to return to her. She did not trust Loki. She did not care for the way this conversation had gone.
The gods called the builder into their hall.
He looked around at the gods. They all seemed in good humour, grinning and nudging each other and smiling. Freya, however, did not smile.
“Well?” asked the builder.
“You asked for three seasons,” said Loki. “We will give you one season and one season only. Tomorrow is the first day of winter. If you are not finished on the first day of summer, you leave here, unpaid. But if you have finished building the wall, as high and as thick and as impregnable as we have agreed, then you will be given everything you have asked for; the moon, the sun and the beautiful Freya. You may have no help in building your wall from anyone, you must build this wall alone.”
The stranger said nothing for some moments. He stared away into the distance and seemed to be weighing Loki’s terms and conditions. Then he looked at the gods and shrugged. “You have said I may have no outside help. I would like my horse, Svadilfari, to help me haul the stones here, the stones I will use to build the wall. I do not believe this is an unreasonable request.”

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Lol, you guys are the ones trying to steal other cultures. The brown BMAC complex peoples and White Sintashta peoples mixed around 1700 BCE before going to Iran and India. Also, the Sintashta, Scythian, and Sarmatian peoples were always polytheists. They were never Hindus or Zoroastrians.

“It is not unreasonable,” agreed Odin, and the gods nodded and told each other that horses are good for hauling heavy stones.
They swore oaths then, the mightiest of oaths, the gods and the stranger, that neither side could betray the other. They swore on their weapons, and they swore on Draupnir, Odin’s golden arm-ring, and they swore on Gungnir, Odin’s spear, and an oath sworn on Gungnir was unbreakable.
The next morning, as the sun rose, the gods stood to watch the man work. He spat on his hands and began to dig the trench into which the first stones would go.
“He digs deep,” said Heimdall.
“He digs fast,” said Frey, Freya’s brother.
“Well, yes, obviously he is a mighty digger of ditches and trenches,” said Loki grudgingly. “But imagine how many stones he will have to haul here from the mountains. It is one thing to dig a trench. It is another to haul stones many miles, unpaid, and then place them, one stone upon the next, so tightly fitted that not even an ant could crawl through it, higher than the tallest giant, to make a wall.”
Freya looked at Loki with disgust, but she said nothing.
When the sun set, the builder mounted his horse and set off for the mountains to gather his first rocks. The horse dragged an empty stone-boat behind it, a low sled that it pulled across the soft earth. The gods watched them leave. The moon was high and pale in the early winter sky.
“He will be back in a week,” said Loki. “I am curious to see how many rocks that horse can haul. It looks strong.”
The gods went to their feast hall then, and there was much merriment and laughter, but Freya dint not laugh.
It snowed before dawn, a light dusting of snowflakes, a presentment of the deep snows that would come further into the winter.

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Heimdall, who saw everything approaching Asgard and who missed nothing, woke the gods in the darkness. They gathered by the trench the stranger had dug the previous day. In the gathering dawn they watched the stranger, walking beside his horse, coming towards them. The horse was steadily dragging a score of blocks of granite, so heavy that the sled made deep ruts in the black earth.
When the man saw the gods, he waved and called good morning cheerfully. He pointed at the rising sun and he winked at the gods. Then he unhitched his horse from the rocks and let it graze while he began to manhandle the first of the granite blocks into the trench he had already dug to receive it.
“The horse is indeed strong,” said Balder, most beautiful of all the Aesir. “No normal horse should be able to drag rocks that heavy.”
“It is stronger than we imagined,” said Kvasir the wise.
“Ah,” said Loki. “The horse will soon tire. This was its first day on the job. It will not be able to haul that many stones every night. And winter is coming. The snows will be deep and thick, the blizzards will be blinding, and the way to the mountain will be difficult. There is nothing to worry about. This is all going according to plan.”
“I hate you so much,” said Freya, who stood unsmiling beside Loki. She walked back to Asgard in the dawn and did not stay to watch the stranger build the foundations of his wall.
Each night the builder and the horse left for the mountain with the empty stone-boat. Each morning they returned, with the horse dragging another twenty blocks of granite, every block larger than the tallest man. Each day, the wall grew, by evening it was bigger than it had been before.

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Odin called the gods.
“The wall is growing apace,” he said. “And we swore an unbreakable oath, a ring oath and a weapon oath, and if he finishes building his wall in time, we will give him the son and the moon and the hand in marriage Freya the beautiful.”
Kvasir the wise said, “No man can do what this master builder is doing. I suspect that he must be something other than a man.”
“A giant,” said Odin, “Perhaps.”
“If only Thor were here,” sighed Balder.
“Thor is hammering trolls, away in the east,” said Odin. “And even if he were to return, our oaths are mighty and binding.”
Loki tried to reassure them. “We are like old women, getting ourselves all worried about nothing. The builder cannot finish the wall before the first day of summer, even if he is the most powerful giant in the land. It is impossible.”
“I wish Thor were here,” said Heimdall. “He would know what to do.”
The snows fell, but the deep snow did not stop the wall builder, and it did not slow Svadilfari, his horse. The grey stallion pulled his sled, piled high with rocks, through snowdrifts and through blizzards, up steep hills and down again, through icy gorges.
The days began to get longer.
Dawn came earlier each morning. The snows began to melt, and the wet mud that was exposed was thick and heavy, the kind that clings to your boot and drags you down.
“The horse will never be able to haul those stones through the mud,” said Loki. “They will sink, and he will lose his footing.”

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They mixed out around 1700 BCE in BMAC complex before dispersing to West Asia and NW India.

But Svadilfari was sure-footed and implacable, even in the thickest, wettest mud, and he hauled the rocks to Asgard, although the stone-boat was so heavy it cut deep gashes into the sides of the hills. Now the builder was hauling the rocks up hundreds of miles and manhandling each rock into place.
The mud dried and the spring flowers came out; yellow coltsfoot, and white wood anemones in profusion- and the wall being built around Asgard was glorious, impossible thing. When it was finished it would be impregnable: no giant, no troll, no dwarf, nor mortal would be able to breach that wall. And the builder continued to build it with relentless good humour. He did not seem to care if it rained or snowed, and neither did his horse. Each morning they would bring the rocks from the mountains; each day the builder would lay the granite blocks upon the previous layer.
Now it was the last day of winter, and the wall was all but completed.
The gods sat on their thrones in Asgard, and they spoke.
“The sun,” said Balder. “We have given away the sun.”
“We placed the moon in the sky in order to mark off the days and the weeks of the year,” said Bragi, god of poetry, moodily. “Now there will be no moon.”
“And Freya, what would we do without Freya?” asked Tyr.
“If this builder actually a giant,” said Freya, with ice in her voice, “then I will marry him and follow him back to Jotunheim, and it will be interesting to see whom I hate more, him for taking me away or all of you for giving me to him.”

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There are several theories for why they are portrayed like this. Blue is something like a holy colour for Hindus.

“Now, don’t be like that,” said Loki, but Freya interrupted him and said, “If this giant does take me, and the sun and the moon, then I ask only one thing from the gods of Asgard.”
“Name it,” said Odin all-father, who had said nothing until now.
“I would like to see whoever caused this calamity killed before I go,” said Freya. “I think it only fair. If I am to go into the land of the frost giants, if the moon and the sun are to be plucked from the sky and the world plunged into eternal darkness, then the life of the one who got us to this point should be forfeit.”
“Ah,” said Loki. “The apportioning of blame is so difficult. Who remembers exactly who suggested what? As I recall, all the gods share equally in this unfortunate mistake. We all suggested it, we all agreed to it-“
“You suggested it,” said Freya. “You talked these idiots into it. And I see you dead before I leave Asgard.”
“We all-” began Loki, but he saw the expression on all the faces of all the gods in that hall, and he fell silent.
“Loki, son of Laufey,” said Odin, “this is the result of your poor counsel.”
“And it was as bad as all your other advice,” said Balder. Loki shot him a resentful glance.
“We need the builder to lose his wager,” said Odin. “Without violating the oath. He must fail.”
“I don’t know what you expect me to do about it,” said Loki.
“I do not expect anything from you, “said Odin. “But if this builder succeeds in finishing his wall by the end of tomorrow, then your death will be painful, and long and a bad and shameful death at that.”
Loki looked from one god to the next, and in each of their faces he saw his death, saw anger and resentment. He did not see mercy or forgiveness.

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