Basic sustenance for citizens

Hey Jow Forums,

I've just got an idea when making myself dinner for the next week.

Hunger is terrible. Going hungry for days, and not being able to provide for your family is a nightmare. Believe me, I know. If there's anything a socialist state should be providing, it's access to basic food.
Fuck shit like welfare, basic income and food stamps. These money should go directly to providing food, not a system that's so easy to abuse.

I can live through a week spending about $5. That's roughly $260 a year without going hungry. And that's buying in detail and including all the taxes. People living on welfare cost the taxpayers waaay more.

So why not make something already cheap and easy to handle, e.g. dried pasta, free for all citizens?
Paid with taxes by all, free for all. Imagine going into a store and having pasta for $0. If you want anything else, pay (work) for it. Then it could lower my weekly spendings to about $3, and let's be honest, even a beggar makes more daily.

The distribution would be handled by the people themselves, taking just how much they need/want from the store.

It would benefit everyone: homeless, old, sick, poor, even the rich, everyone willing to eat pasta. I believe it would also help with fertility rates.

I know some people living on welfare. There's this woman, who's spending all the money she gets the next day on booze and smokes. Over the week, she sells what she buys with foodstamps to the townpeople, making more money for booze. And guess what, mid-month she's walking around begging for food.

Free food instead of welfare would fix a situation like this.
And most probaly would cost less than welfare/foodstamps, addresing the point more directly.

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tl,dr; make sketti a human right.

Do you think it could work?

PS. I'm by all means no socialist, but we live in socialist states. More of an idea for fixing the current welfare system.

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I mean, it already kind of is. Cup noodles are extremely cheap.

i lived 3 euro week with noodle packs

But they cost MONEY, so you need to give MONEY to the people so that they can buy them. And often they don't.

I'm suggesting taking the MONEY totally out of the equation. No welfare, no foodstamps. But some food becomes literally free, so no one can bitch about being hungry, or not able to feed the kids.

yes it will work put it in fridge dont leave it open

Or better: let them all starve to death. Like niggers, poorfags don't deserve spaghetti and meatballs. Don't give them anything, no welfare, no foodstamps, let them die an agony of starvation I their shitty identical suburb houses.

free pasta in the store will only increase the packaging waste, dude. make your community centers to distribute pasta for free for those who come their own non-plastic bags

governments should be cultivating a society where food independence is something all citizens who don't live in a city strive for. People who live in a city can use methods to at least partially food independent.

Pasta is empty calories. You need actual nutrition.

I don't like Hungary either

>europoors
this is the most retarded thing. stores would just stop selling pasta.

It's fucking awful for you tho

I'll give it to the Poos, they have it figured out:
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I'm guessing we've got ourselves in so much of a hurry and have become soo anti-social and so anti-spiritual that the idea of simply bringing everyone together and feeding them basic and cheap shit is dead and gone. At best we got soup kitchens and churches handing out canned foods, but it's just not the same.

no its not. my pic is best noodles you can get in world and you eat it dry.

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It's all nips eat and they live a pretty good life

We do that with ramen, crush it up into little chunks, pour in seasoning and shake.... Call it nigger chips

Beggars can't be choosers in this system if you want good nutrition you need to work for it this is literally just so they don't starve in the short-term.

yes and you put in the oil too so season sticks to noodles. its best welfare food

Make it a public campaign, I don't think it'll get you anywhere.

It's something that's supposed to provide for the basic need, not sustain a healthy diet for everyone's entire lives.
Unless they want to.

No, poor fags come to the shelter and have to get spaghetti in a plastic grocery bag.
Also buy a potato and carrot or something
They need actual lives and incomes, it should be temporary not permanent. We should fix the economy to make jobs not require permanent gibs.

Never thought about oil, good idea

What was the reason for that

>The distribution would be handled by the people themselves, taking just how much they need/want from the store.

Niggers(congrats, you have them now), come in and take all the pasta. Now what? Now you starve, because of niggers? GG no re?

It's not good for you. That's a fact
Memes memes memes

no money

post evidence then

No, I don't know your Russian noodle products. Top ramen isn't good for you.

but aren't foodstamps basically already this, where they give the stamps for food instead of money?

>empty carbs with no nutritional value
what kind of brainlet eats pasta?

Potatoes are almost the perfect food.

They are fairly cheap. I can usually get a 10lbs bag for under $3.00.

A potato + butter provides just about every nutrient a human needs to survive.

Just make sure you don't peel them.

A box of pasta is only a $1.
If we give people a free box a day that is $30 a month.

Why not just send everyone a check for $30?

Of course to send everyone a check for $30 it costs over $60 and results in a tax increase to cover it.

You can trade a food stamp, you can't trade a plastic grocery bag full of spaghetti

mby your chink noodles are shit but here the noodle pack i posted is top stuff

Would golden rice humor you just for the sake of this thought-experiment?

I understand your sentiment and in that regard thing it's good, but them implementation would fuck everything up. This could work on a city/town level. City offers the program, you have to prove you live in the city, then scoop your free dried noodles.

It opens up to shit like people saying their being discriminated for gluten intolerance, etc. plus it creates a slippery slope

Because the whole point is they'll be niggers and buy other shit instead of the food they are meant to use it on, then they beg for more.

That’s actually a valid point

Niggers will horde the shit and sell it for drugs

I have floated this before, but in line of what you are saying make a complete nutrition item free to all people. You can either pick it up or go online and just get it sent to you. We have full nutritional food pellets for all animals already, it would probably make society much healthier too. They could come in a variety of flavors.
No food stamps, food shelves, or EBT, just food pellets.

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>Why not just send everyone a check for $30?
cause dumb niggers will just buy 2 pizzas and a a Liter of CocaCola

I'm not against it, I think it's hilarious. It shouldn't be something you should have to rely on very long therefore it shouldn't have to be all that healthy.

Feeding everyone enables them to reproduce.
Eventually, you'll have too many eaters and not enough food to go around.
You'll only add to the collective misery of the world doing this.

this

you can sell the bag full of spaghetti

sure thing buddy

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Sounds like onions. I think it would be even more hilarious to give the niggers onions instead. Might pacify them and make them procreate less.

We don't need free food when over 75 percent of the population is overweight to obese. People need to starve and go hungry. How many underweight people are there that aren't "high metabolism" teens, suffering from a gut issues or anorexic? Probably less than 1 percent.

Not if everyone else can get a plastic grocery bag full of spaghetti too, then the supply is infinite and demand is 0

But you have to make it so bland that niggers won’t sell it for drugs

Then it’s a good idea. You have to be one desperate motherfucker to subsist entirely off glorified dog food

Can't sell it for drugs because you could just walk down to the grocery store and pick up a bag for free or something.

S O Y for the niggers. Think about it. Less nigger tier behavior, more homosexuality, less children, and niggers won't want to subsist off onions so they'll be forced to work.

whats stopping someone from taking all the spaghetti for themselves if its free?

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Niggers abuse welfare. They trade their food benefits for cash or drugs. The only way to make it fair is to ship them actual food instead. What happened to the EBT boxes?

Then just eat whole grain pasta?

Cafeterias, not grocery stores. And if it's readily accessible to all how can you sell it?

they eat the spaghetti so demand is constant

>not just saying o n i o n s

Fag

But niggers are lazy and would pay for something that’s free just so they don’t have to stop hitting the pipe and go to the store. The stupidest ones wouldn’t even know how to boil pasta even if they had all the equipment and information

I like making Hormel Chili with beans, and two packs of Ramen as a quick dinner.

you have to be some sort of ultra nigger to be capable of not having a few euros on you for a period as long as a week
at that point, everyone knows you're a junkie or have some major mental issues.
this idea is at heart very well intentioned, but ultimately you're not taking into account what an extremity such as a junkie would do to abuse the system.

In France we have something called «restaurant du coeur» (Heart restairant). They just give you basic nececity stuff.
BUT it's pretty much only privtely founded, and the average giver is just the average joe giving some spare money.
> inb4 nigger.
Nope, the vast majority of receiver are white. Shitskine have so much gib they will never starve. Meanwhile white familyless elder often search for food in bins.

Fuck off with your collectivist bullshit.

why you wear shoe in house?

>I've just got an idea
Breadlines, you are talking about breadlines. And yes, it's a very cheap way of keeping the useless masses fed. So cheap that even a society in economic collapse managed to do it (for a given value of managed)

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You need protien. If you dont have jars of dried beans you are doing it wrong

I see your point.
> Noodles only cost .89¢ here though.
> The offset wouldn't be worth the implementation of policy

>tastes like shit and isn't any better for you
long chains of sugar fortified with Big Pharmas waste products (AKA vitamins) is the modern day slave food. We should make milk free, at least it has nutritional value

Okay ahmed

>tastes like shit
>long chains of sugar fortified with Big Pharmas waste products
What kind of shit pasta do you produce in the US?

Do you not care for your fellow countrymen at all?
I know there are parasitess, but there are also real people who could benefit from it, and become a benefit to the society.

I don't know about in Yurop, but here in the US, welfare leeches would flip their shit. Similar stuff has already been proposed in the US where the USDA just mails people pasta, canned goods, dried milk, etc. every month instead of giving them hundreds to spend on whatever they want at the grocery store. And there's always a lot of resistance to it (even though for a hikikomori like me, if I was on the dole, having most of my groceries delivered to my door sounds pretty great).

No, cafeterias where they hand out the spaghetti that's cheaper than food stamps and can't be traded or sold because there's a constant supply of it. Fully cooked and all. You come in and get a bag full, maybe have a card to use once per day they can check. It won't taste very good but it'd be nutrition.
The alternative is to give niggers an exclusively soi diet, which I love just as much.
S O Y FOR THE S O Y GODS

I see your point and I raise you my counterargument: niggers.

This post made me anti-nuclear energy voter. The Ringhals made you Danes retarded.

But you can't ignore market forces. If spaghetti is free in your country people would start smuggling it into neighboring countries. Others might start using spaghetti for fuel, construction materials, making knives, etc.

It's simply not going to work. You can't ignore the market. Free spaghetti will create a scarcity of spaghetti and rising black market prices for spaghetti.

Good idea, except lactose intolerant niggers would call it racist. Also, I don’t want lactose intolerant niggers farting all over the place. Such would be a net negative

we got a better option on that one. Screw soja. The wast majority of our crimin . . eeh niggers are muslims. So the simply making ready to eat pork-n-potatoes rations the only gibs option and poof, they are gone.

to be fair i wouldn't trust the gov to feed me. I owuld think most people who need gov assistance would benefit from not eating processed garbage food byproducts.

Make it Raw milk. Nobody has digestion issues with raw milk.

The biggest problem with food stamps / ebt is nutrition.
You can buy like 2000 calories of junk food for $3 in the US. You can buy it for even less if you buy flour, oils, and eggs.
Hell even the homeless are fat.
Really all they need is a multivitamin.

Jeeeeeesus

I'm literally proposing that packets of dried pasta are for free.
Would you share the idea how one could abuse a system like that?

This, beans are based. You will never be constipated again if you eat some beans or lentils everyday

Uncooked pasta still costs money. Only the pasta prepared at the special cafeterias would be free and good luck selling something that goes bad and stale within 24hrs

>for free.
It's not free, taxpayers pay for it you mongoloid.

I think every has enough money to buy some cup noodles. They're only around 18 cents.

Our niggers love pork, give them soi

Doing better now? Was it back in 2008

Shut the fuck up spic and stay out of my country. You know your nigger ass will be leeching when you get here.

> t.don't have a foreskin

In my country, if you're too much of a piece of shit to get help from friends of family, you're a parasite. Basically, if you're an adult who can't feed themselves, why have you around?
Churches are for when you have a rare hard time in life,
Begging is for niggers

> I can live through a week spending about $5. That's roughly $260 a year without going hungry.

That is amazing. Here in Canada $260 will maybe feed you for a few days if you are lucky. Even something like a Mars or Snickers will set you back $7.99.

We used to have this in the US in the 80s-90s. Government cheese and meat very close to doctors sauage (commie meat in the USSR) around the same time. Our farmers are bar none the best in the world and have been for 200 years. So the government used to buy the surplus and then supplement the poor with guaranteed ratios of food in hard foodstuffs, as a kid I remember Reagan talking that it was 2lbs of chese for every poverty person, 1.5 lb of government sauage (with all daily vitamins added) and food stamps to supplement additional goods (veggies, bread, cooking ingredients). A bunch of groups protested because everyones favorite melanin dense people were 20% obese due to it and if the government wasnt so racist they'd stop insisting the inner city poor are too fucking retarded to even cook a healthy meal and give them gibs directly in the form of larger foodstamps and money.

Unsurprisingly giving a tard money means they will do retard things. Now the obesity rate is 65%. This is why social programs aimed at survic al necessities are failures and only uplifting programs work (Pell grants [scholarship money to poor kids], Federal Workstudy [government pays salary of poor student for job in their career at their university]), mental health counselors, etc. These fat fucks consume 80% of all medical resources. If we allowed hospitals to deny care for 8 years to the obese poor (the time it takes for untreated diabetes to get them) we would solve our medical crisis. I assisted my mentor on a huge study on this in the 00's and proved the only indicator of life expectancy in the US is the affluence of the town which attracts doctors, not race, education, region etc. The followup study focused on how the obese poor consumed available resources, gamed the system and are literally unable toamble ahead (think ahead for life goals) of more than 6 weeks. Its not my fault much of the obese poor are black but it is the obese poor's fault we live less.

This could possibly work in a high trust society, like yours.

Never in a low-trust tyranny like the JUSA.

They already pay for ebt and food stamps that people abuse. Make it something no one really wants.
>I sell you these boxes of noodles you can grab for free too for that crack rock
Not gonna work

Same as we do, just with HFCS added. Children are obsessed with pasta as the golden food solution. When in fact simple meat and potatoes are both better nutrition and cheaper.

Flour and either shortening/lard can make bread for a month, for the cost of < $3. Also does not need refrigeration

One bar?

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