Venezuela General /vg/ - Maduro Eats Stake Everyday Edition

I'm just gonna ask one thing

do you really care about venezuelan's in general or are you just defending your ideology?

Because I understand defending your ideology, but I can't seem to understand those who think Maduro is still good despite how our country is currently.

Jews want to destroy Venezuella because it's a country allied to Iran

vuvuzelans have few choices

if they listen to russia then
- vuvuzelan opposition will be crashed, maybe they will try to start civil war.
they will go to gulag to cut trees and collect bananas
- the oil will continue to flow under russian control
- russian wheat, sugar whatever will be delivered in exchange of oil-money
- china will sell a lot of cheap shit to vuvuzelans

if not then they will get #rekt like libya

Fuck commies
Fuck serbs
Fuck russians
And fuck /sg/ shills

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Do you even need to ask? You know the answer

bruh hand over the oil who gives a fuck about ideology or a country that isnt their own
Then they can sit back and watch as it burns itself to the ground

I'm just watching the habbening. The siege to the embassy unfolding should be fun to watch.
I also dont want a war next door. Shit is gonna be really bad for LATAM if that happens. I do think Maduro has a lot of guilt in this whole process, but I can't deny the external interference. i mean, ffs, they called in elliot abrams for this...

Your country is in a bad state because the USA is sabotaging the revolution. Maduro is doing the best he can but the fucking yankees are working against Venezuela.

>theres people actively shilling for maduro and their corrupted buddies despite the massive evidence showing their complete disregard for human lives and their totalitarian bullshit
>they call themselves pro freedom

Its almost irónic, I bet they even think theyre moraly sound

I think Maduro is in a shit situation, and his country is in a shit situation (economic crisis), that's got to be fucked up for the Venezuelan people, but tbqh, I don't think they'll be any better under CIA nigger's control. They'll just become the next Narco state, be a cheap Oil provider for the US, or straigth up give the oil to US hands. If Venezuela falls the balance in south america tanks. South america becomes way more vulnerable to US influence.

>January 8, 2019
Weak bait
>target seven individuals in a currency exchange scheme
>This somehow is damaging their imports giving them hyperinflation since many years ago and food shortages
>Implying Venezuela's main import isn't refined oil and medicaments (which apparently don't even manage to provide)
>Implying that Venezuela would even NEED food exports if they had a decent administration
You clearly don't know anything about what happens there, do you?
Eat shit and die

Fact.

Commies are extremely cultish and defensive, don't even bother.

Honestly? I just want you to avoid US regime change scenarios.

In your country it won't be preety and clean cut and will create years of insurgency.

If you don't get that message, then you need to reread posts.

The chad steak eater
The humanitarian food aid virgin

Maduro is not a saint. CIA niggers aren't saints either you know...

I just want to see dead commies tbf
Which happens to align with your interests
I guess I also care about my country not being ran over by venezuelans fleeing gommunism, so I'm interested on the wellbeing of venezuelans, too

well meme'd CIA nigger

...

Alright guys he is trolling at this point, it's just joke to him. There is no point in conversing with someone that does not want conversing.

You dont think we can get any better, but people in here is fucking fed up of getting worse and worse with no prospect of change.

We can improve once we dont have the goverment blocking everything that they dislike for getting a harder grasp on power.

Come on America, bomb some brown people.

A lot of people here just want to see and share videos of wars, or people fighting in the streets because it looks cool.

People here are not your allies (no matter where you side).

They don't really care. Don't let that stop you from speaking truth.

To irony, every other internet forum is more redpilled than faggots from Jow Forums.

The sad state of affairs is that some are so desperate to defend themselves as they built their entire fucking persona around their political ideology any failures are either absolute lies (and they can "prove" it by citing the only part of the media that validates them) or not really part of said ideology in the first place™
If you tell them Maduro is a piece of shit then what are they supposed to think about the years they've spent defending him online, and all the articles they've read about how based and fair he is?
Better defend your own ego no matter how many fucking poor third world niggers die of starvation and gunshots at protests, how are they going to be able to live once they realize worldwide conflicts are more than just the ideological equivalent of a soccer league?

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Threadly reminder that:
Juan Guaido: "member of the centrist social-democratic Popular Will party"
POPULAR WILL PARTY
The Socialist International (SI) is a worldwide association of political parties which seek to establish democratic socialism
DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM
Popular Will party: "Admitted as full member in December 2014!"
TL;DR
both sides are trying to jew Jow Forums

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At this point I hope they bomb them just to hit this faggot here. Would be ironic.

>be a cheap Oil provider for the US, or straigth up give the oil to US hands

But we're already doing that with China and Cuba. We're basically gifting them (China) our oil because we're so in debt with them or because we're fuckbuddies (Cuba)

Let's just say both of their help hasn't really improved my country's situation.

we venezuelans cant do it in our own, when the whole military and paramilitary groups are behind Maduro.

>ESPERT2019
Feminist president

I understand that the situation is really fucked up for Venezuelan people, but giving in to CIA niggers is not the way forward. Ideally you'd get a true people's party to take over and say fuck Russia, fuck China and Fuck US, but that won't happen, because they'd get CIA'd as well... so your only choice for now Iis to remain fucked or to go full CIA nigger government. Idk, I don't want Venezuelans to suffer, they don't deserve to get targeted by the CIA niggers.

I mean, both sides are incredibly zogged, but by getting rid of Maduro there's a tiny door open to a fascist-like/nationalist movement growing there

Stop reseting mobile data and have some decency.

E begging pile of shit

I know, you guys are fucked either way, sad.

>Idk, I don't want Venezuelans to suffer
A bit late for that, don't you think?

>fascist-like/nationalist movement growing there
elaborate, bull dodger

You overstimate how much people hates chavistas and their whole ideology.

If they fall the which hunts of the remaining people supporting chavistas will be fucking wild, resentment is an all time high, and we arent militaristic, people is lazy, lots would be ratted out and driven away, this place is only controlled by the PSUV due to being armed and crooked.

They wouldnt survive in any other enviroment, they made sure of it.

Ummm I know you're from that country, but look, I got an associates degree in sociology. I think i know a little bit more about your country then you do.

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Weve already been suffering for 2 decades under the PSUV niggers, you only say that because you havent been suffering here like we are now.

Look mate i don't give a fuck as long as they stop coming over the border, the other zogged guy says he will stop it so I'm willing to give it a try. It's easy for you to support maduro since you don't have to deal with the consequences of his stupid actions.
Yelling about "Muh cia" is easy when you aren't the one starving in the streets or having you head blown out in a protest..

dumbass commies who plundered their country vs. CIA glowniggers who want to plunder their country
whoever wins, the Venezuelan people are fucked (which they deserve for voting for socialist policies in the first place)
just another third world failed state

no, its your turn. Also sorry about the Clinton's using our army to protect the muzzies. We have no control here.

You aren't saying anything. You repeat same shit over and over again. I want to hear stories of friend, family, life, to make the judgment not this kind of bullshit.

I already heard your post on UNSC by every US puppet, it means nothing when it's repeated like shit. Liretally boy who cried wolf over and over again.

8/10

You made me laugh, thanks, user.

Well, fascist movements don't usually thrive in communist environments due to their strict anti-fascism policy. Democracy, liberals and CIA-niggers, with all of their faults, are more lenient on that, which is one of the reasons why right-wing populisms are rising all over Europe while not doing so in communist countries. Thus, getting rid of the reds would make the chance of a true right-wing movement starting real. Of course, it's small, but the rejection of communism is already there. If you stoke the fire enough....

Reminder of who are the good guys.

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>E begging
I haven't even begged for anything. I still have some pride left. And not my fault mobile data literally goes down, what the fuck, are you so buttmad I'm giving at least a little bit of truth to these threads so you're trying to have the SEBIN locate me or some shit like that? lmao
I'll just tell you: the CIA at least gives me the chance of actually being able to create and grow my own company, and promises me these fuckers that have lived luxurious lives on the suffering of many will at least get all their corrupt money seized and their so-called futures ruined overnight.
And it's far easier to take down the gringos, no one really likes US bootlickers here, but we've just come to hate commies even more.
We'll go for the lesser of evils as it stands, fuck starving even more under Maduro rule and not even getting economical or social stability in exchange of our national resources being plungered by international superpowers.

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Q: How does Maduro like his steak?
A: rare

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What you must accept is that the working-class loved Chavez and still support Maduro then ask yourself why. Before they came along your government was content to be a US puppet, allowing their oil corporations to siphon off the wealth, as long as the politicians got their kickbacks. The working-class saw NO trickle-down benefits and lived in poverty and
illiteracy whilst YOUR class wallowed in selfish greed.

Unfortunately only the US economic war and your own class are to blame for the current situation.

To answer your question, I care about ordinary working-class people not being fucked-over yet again by zionist global-capitalism which is what Trump, Pompeo and their pet-poodle allies (including May) are doing right now. Especially because after Brexit my people will be in the same position.

>Cracking sounds

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>which they deserve for voting for socialist policies in the first place)
they only did that beacuse the people who were in power before were also plundering the country and Chavez actually improved their lives

Damn, mohammed looking white as fuck

>do you really care about venezuelan's in general
No
>defend your ideology
I defend what is Russia doing. Irrelevant of the ideology.

Nice meme, macaco loco

He openly said he doesn't wants sexual education nor genre politics on education. He only stated that personally (not the party's official stance) he's ok with despenalization of abortion (as in cases of necessity) and would call to votation for the people to decide it, but NEVER to make abortion free, if they want to they must PAY. It's that brown mongrel olmedo's campaign to discredit him. Btw olmedo was peronist, cucked his wife, has ZERO formal education (in fact he doesn't even speaks english, he barely can speak spanish) and never worked a day in his life but hurr durr he's a born again christian, he was sent by Jeezus

Go on, keep chewing and regurgitating all that shit that olmedobots excrete everywhere

>highest ranking military diplomat
>diplomat
Damn, hopefully the highest ranking military chef doesn't follow suit.

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>Of course, it's small, but the rejection of communism is already there. If you stoke the fire enough....
No there isnt people may be against Maduro but there is no evidence that they are against socialism

How do you like your steak staked?
And since we're down there in hue land. WTF happened in Brumadinho?

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fuck ive never seen it that way, based
>t. erdogan

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>This level of mental gymnastics
Damn, Olympics are early this time

>What you must accept is that the working-class loved Chavez and still support Maduro
Then why is Maduro raiding the poorest slums in the city and murdering protesters there?
twitter.com/quevedopedrom/status/1088523972730339332
They love him so much, why respond to that love with death?

Why you monkeys so opposed to Venezuela? I sometimes tune into br news and youtubers and they seem extra savage about the topic.

Like most of them have no chill and go to the extremes. What did they do to you lol? Are you monkeys just eager for war? bored down there?

Oil is all that matters

Yeah, the've suffered quite a bit.

>It wasnt real communism!

oh look the military attache to usa was “convinced“ to reject Maduro ,i am so surprised

>Brumadinho
i like my steaks bloody in the inside.
>Brumadinho
a tragedy. it's gonna happen again too. rainy season is coming and there like 200 same situations in that area.

Do CIA workers hold gun on your head? I mean actuall venezualian would not treat this as joke, would argue to the core of the truth, would show some genuine emotional investment.

You are repeating same cycle over and over again. To whose benefit if not US?

War is not a joke, Jow Forums maybe full of memes, but this is reality. Why are you so cold to the fact? Your fucking family will be in danger like WTF is wrong with you man?

Bonobos vs Chimpanzees

you are the one doing gymanstic americans have tried for a decade to get rid of maduro or chavez and they failed beacuse people actually like their policies
well it is not real communism

I wonder if their deep sea oil can be extracted without even accessing the land, just drill, take and ship home, without approaching the retarded commie government. If they try to stop you you sink their silly boats and keep drilling.

My wild guess is you'll suffer the consequences of a CIA nigger government, but to each their own.

did venezuela literally said they can send the immigrants that left venezuela back to solve the immigrant issue?

>Then why is Maduro raiding the poorest slums in the city and murdering protesters there?

Commies have a history of doing shit like that. Thankfully, he hasn't ratcheted it up to Pol Pot / Stalin / Mao levels. Yet.

that looks like another day in a macaco favela in rio

Maduro = illegitimate government. He fired and exiled your supreme court and has made the government a joke following his 'drone scare'. He's a shit tier Erdogan. Who knows if the new guy will actually bring in change but stability will at least be brought back for the time being.

yeah. they said that there 3 planes, including presidential plane, picking up people in equador today (or somethign like that, they spoke too quickly sometimes... messy to transcribe)

>memeflag afraid of some high energy

Erdogan to go to? Kys fatso drumpfer

>a tragedy
>expecting more of the same
But why? Don't you have this rainy season every year? Or is there some unusual weather phenomenon that you couldn't have predicted and engineered yourself out of?

You've got to come up with better "sources" than that as to why Maduro would attack his own working-class base...

Maduro supporters march
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Of course, it's not true

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>He fired and exiled your supreme court
Actually he expanded it (which is a dick move desu)
>Who knows if the new guy will actually bring in change
well hello there newfag! welcome to LATAM geopolitics. we recommend you lurk a bit before giving your opinion, which no one here really give a shit about. Thanks and welcome!

>supporting a man that's shot down and killed many different russian air fighters
Seems pretty cucked to me lol

>He's a shit tier Erdogan.

I read today that the Bank of England refusing him access to the gold reserves they hold for Venezuela is gonna cause him some major heartburn.

Maduro was apparently using part of those reserves via swaps to buy food from Turkey. Not any more.

Why can't Trump tell this motherfucker to step down as PM?

>wave of Venezuelans flooding in illegally via boat
>majority are prostitutes and hitmen, all carrying drugs, guns and ammo
>crime rate increases because of this
>coast guards letting them pass through, bribery with no enforcement of law
>island was a paradise, now slowly turning into another Mexico

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Not him, but I like my steaks very well-done.

I'd eat steaks everyday too, if it weren't for the fact pasta is also so good.

As for Brumadinho, there was a lot of mismanagement and some 400 people got eaten by the mud. The previous governor of Minas Gerais (where the small city is located) was from the Worker's Party (PT). There had been warnings that a catastrophe could happen since last year at least, but the governor chose to ignore it.

This is the sort of thing that made us reject left-wingers and choose Bolsonaro instead. We didn't vote for him out of bigotry, like the left-wing media would have you believe, but rather because he was the only plausible solution to the mess PT had created, as he promised to choose ministers with technical knowledge instead of professional politicians who wouldn't do anything, and this particular promise he has actually kept (with one or two irrelevant exceptions, but essentially it was very well-kept)..

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I was reading how the companies gave their own executives kickbacks to the tune of 160million last year.
Everyone here is corrupt and ineficient I guess.

Would some kindly user please explain just how a loan from the IMF will help the ordinary Venezualans? Call me pessamistic but IMF loans and properity for the common man don't generally go hand in hand
grayzoneproject.com/2019/01/25/venezuela-us-coup-leader-juan-guaido-state-oil-company-imf/

>Do CIA workers hold gun on your head?
No, but I got shot with rubber bullets and got held at gunpoint with a FAL during numerous years of protests.
I'm not treating it as a joke. Fuck, I've tried to at least rationalize your point of view, and I'm expecting a serious reply in return. You always either dodge the point or default back into insults because you're incapable of making any real arguments.
I'm doing it in benefit of seeing Maduro gone. That's all I want in the short-term, and the consequences come after.
Look, I'll be frank with you.
Seriously speaking, what downsides would a CIAnigger government have in contrast to Maduro's rule? What could worsen in the current socioeconomical spectrum here in Venezuela? What negatives can you legitimately mention that don't happen yet?
Because not even civil war counts, considering we're at the border of having one.
Yeah, government-funded "journalists" sure are better sources than free information circulating online shared by citizens...oh wait.
>Maduro supporters march
Less than 200 people, compare that to the numerous protests that have propped up in the last few days in rejection of Maduro.
Let me guess, those don't exist, right?

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is being a US puppet really any worse than being a China/Russia/Cuba puppet, though?

>To answer your question, I care about ordinary working-class people not being fucked-over yet again by zionist global-capitalism which is what Trump, Pompeo and their pet-poodle allies (including May) are doing right now.

Again, this is happening already. Just change the US for China. We're so in debt with the chinks we probably won't be able to pay it for at least another ~30 years or more.

anyway, what people in here dont seem to understand is that we want a way out of this government, it doesnt matter what it takes. We cant do it in our own which is what no one in these threads seem to understand. We can figure shit out after everything is over, but for now? just getting out of Maduro is good enough, my country deserves some sort of stability, not people or babies dying in hospitals because there isnt enough medicine or there is a shortage of it or people dying from starvation or being limited on what they can do on a daily basis because a kilo of meat costs as much as what our minimum wage is currently

Even without becoming a war-zone or some sort of shit, the state of Venezuela currently is dangerous for the region because people in here keeps moving out to other countries and that will sort of become a refugee situation like the one Europe is experiencing.

primicia.com.ve/venezolano-asesina-a-mujer-a-punaladas-en-ecuador/

Just take a look at this.

I don't want to become a US Puppet, but if I had to pick between becoming a US Puppet or staying as a Cuba/China/Russia Puppet, then I'll pick becoming a US Puppet because Cuba, China and Russia have done nothing but bring misery to my country, we're fucked either way but at least let us experience something new instead of the shit we've been living in for 20 years already.