When will Working Class Conservashits stop voting against their own economic interests?

why do they keep voting for Big Business proposals?

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Some things are more important than materialist things, the communists and the capitalists share the idea that material wealth is the most importing thing, death to both communism and capitalism.

I can't believe this guy is considered an economist despite not understanding how wages work.

>Wolff

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I’d rather vote for corporations and all your other buzzwords than for a party that actively tries to replace white people with subhuman shitskins.

>white people bad
>why won’t whites vote for us?

You realize that you would vote for the same consequence you fucking blind and gullible Ameridiot?

See, this is the thing: Americans are so gullible and pathologized by their culture that they venerate the rich bourgeoisie even though it fucking wants to replace them! And dumb Ameridiots think that the bourgeoisie is somehow opposed to the Left when it comes to multiculturalism

That's the fucking catch 22 about America but you still haven't figured it out, because you're still ready to praise "successful people" and suck their dicks off and give them tax cuts

Gr8 b8 m8

Capitalism is an economic system you dipshit. Traditional liberalism, the ideology capitalism comes from, is not a materialistic ideology.

Neoliberals and neoconservatives are two sides of the same coin, and have been dominating the democrat and republican parties, respectively, for a while now. It looks like we're moving into a new party system, though. Things may very well change.

When will (((they))) stop telling other groups what their economic interests should/ought to be?

The answer is always because we're social creatures who bond with groupthink.

Liberals will always want to exterminate whites. Conservatives will always hate minorities. It's the way the media designed itself to maximize revenues.

>better than being genocided

Thats what it comes down too and everyone knows it

Does it exist in a bubble where it does not effect culture or attempt to influence it? Capitalism and Communism are working towards the same end goal. A globalized world with a single mono culture that is manufactured to serve the interests of an international elite.

Do I vote for the Right-version of big business where they enslave the people working for them or the Left-version where its the same but they pretend to like gays and trans?

Because they're very good goyim.

If you believe human bonding is prefaced by groupthink, but ignore the shit that consistently has been thrown out of our groups for centuries, you're not getting your shekels worth.

when did Democrats start white concentration camps?

This.
Also this.

Whose wages and benefits are being cut?

>When will Working Class Conservashits stop voting against their own economic interests?

When viable third option appears.
I guess for now they're content with keeping their guns.

lol exactly. we don't even get to pick our poison, just it's flavor

They never vote for rich people to exploit people and laws further. They vote to keep the U.S. from turning into Liberia.

That complete moron is somehow oblivious to the fact that progressives, who completely run the Democrat party, openly state that their goal is to commit genocide of the American people.

You're talking about neoliberals and neocons and acting like they represent all off capitalism. These things are the result of capitalism removed from its ideological context. They are fundamentally illiberal, and a revival of traditional liberalism will counter them.

Because it's better than voting to have some shitskin who walked into the US take my job and get welfare

Fiscal conservativism is a joke. We have had tax cuts that don't really help the working class, and trillions of dollars in debt. I will never vote for a neocon again. Luckily, like you said, a shift has started in the Republican Party. I hope they are smart enough to see it before Trump is out of office.

How is bringing in illegals to lower wages and forcing the middle class to pay for it not something the Dems want?

Absolute FPBP. Many people here somehow oversee the obvious fact that big corporations are the driving force behind today's consumerist culture and the globalization which allows this culture to thrive.

Now how do you propose a revival of traditionalist liberals when all these foreigners overwhelming like marxist socialism and vote for those who promise more socialism. Give me an estimation of how long it will take to convince them to vote for traditional liberalism.

Lurk moar.
You've created a false choice.

>They are fundamentally illiberal, and a revival of traditional liberalism will counter them
The absolute state of Amerilards

Capitalism makes money on human passions and destroys families. Liberalism is a system which is based on indifference to morality and thus tilts people toward evil and degeneracy. Liberalism also brainwashes people about law and subjects them to court slavery and makes them hate their own government

Imagine making the same thread every fucking day.

Trump is not a conservative, or a neoconservative. Trump wasn't a Republican until 2007.

i find it really odd and perplexing that working class whites keep voting for a the same party that actively spits in their face when it comes to their class interests

Show me an American politician running on an economic platform that abandons the programs of "muh great society" and deals with the federal reserve, then I'll vote primarily on economic grounds.

who cares, trump is a con artist and a joke of a human being

There is no party that supports white working class in the US.

Because the Democrats are in no way for their economic interests either. There's a reason wealthy billionaires donate so much to the DNC. The most anti-capital mainstream political figure today is Tucker Carlson.

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Trump is my president.

Ftfy

this and kys op

He's right. Look at the biggest corporations out there: Amazon, Google, Facebook, Apple, Koch Industries, P&G, Viacom, etc.
Why do you think transgenderism, gay rights, and drag kids are in the public discourse? Who do you think supports and pushes for open borders? It ain't the blue-hair'd bloggers, though they do support it.

trump renegotiating trade deals in favour of america is bigger than anything the democrats will ever do

shut up commie faggot. Fucking insufferable cucks like you think they are enslaved lmao you are worse than the blacks.

illegal immigrants'

wow 3 shill threads about "conservatives" whining about trump. nice shilling you faggots

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The American two-party system has created this false dilemma. Many Americans honestly believe that being socially conservative/anti-globalist/nationalistic somehow implies supporting the big capital. Or that having socialist (or even communist) views implies being a nigger-loving faggot.

opening borders to shitskins illegals and pajeets while outsourcing jobs is a really great way to support the working class?

>(((Wolff))

That being said, I don't even completely disagree

I think you're both thoroughly dumb, and intensely brainwashed by cnn

Democrats at the very worst ATLEAST acknowledge and pay lip service to working class issues and reform. Republicans out right hate them by trying to cut and slash into their Medicare SS funding . Both government shut downs have been manufactured by republicans

Third Position is the only moral position.

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(((big businesses)))

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> lefties watch CNN

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when the 'left' stops hating straight white males i'll consider their apologies

Voting to max gibs isn’t good for anyone in the long term, always vote low taxes and low spending, however there is a one party system of government in America now, both vote to add trillion in debt per year for federal Reserve revenue and bankruptcy for America. Outsiders like Ron Paul Dennis Kusinjch that idiot aoc lady and Donald trump are inconsequential

>like they represent all off capitalism
ITS NOT PROPER CAPITALISM
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Not having socialist or communist views is good though. Your views should be in between degenerate capitalism and communism. Both systems are aimed at destroying family

if you aren't starving to death you don't really have any "interests" that are based on any amount of facts or figures

True, and we may see a real shift in the DNC that makes it more legitimately more worker.

Because the corporate moguls that run the Republican Party dupe them with partisan issues.

>muh guns
>muh abortion
>muh free speech

>Show me the national socialist party in America LMAO.

We have the ‘Multi Culti (white genocide) socialist and the ‘Nationalist Corporate bootlickers’

This is by design. It is a false choice. Either way you get fucked. This is by design to make the demographics vote agaisnt thier interests.

Like voting against our demographic interests is any better.

They're cucks.

This ones on me user

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Because I like rich people more than I do the feds who steal it anyways

When leftists stop trying to demographically eliminate us.

I understand that rich GOP donors like Koch are on that same boat.

They all need to be labeled traitors and given the boot (or bullet, if they b.c. cant take a hint).

Bump

Democrats do it too, Democrats do it worse, where was this question when you were strugging to understand the ascendency of Trump?

>Clinton Signs China Trade Bill into Law
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>Clinton signs NAFTA into law, Dec. 8, 1993
politico.com/story/2018/12/08/clinton-signs-nafta-into-law-dec-8-1993-1040789

>Why is Obama Pushing the TPP?
billmoyers.com/story/obamas-push-tpp/

>Clinton Remained Silent As Wal-Mart Fought Unions
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>How Bill Clinton Remade the Democratic Party by Abandoning Unions
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Cuz fuck lefties haha

every jew is a jewish supremacist, do they think the term "white supremacist" means anything? trump gets tried by a judge who belongs to "la raza". white supremacist is a racist hate term used by jews

dawww sowwy i ruined your black panther party

Since when have democrats been working class?

Only worker unions are for workers interest not millionaire corporate politician sponsers.

Can we temporarily ally with the left to take down (((corporate elite)))?

Until a Third Position party emerges.

Will never happen in a dual party system. and even if we had a parliamentary system, it would still be cucked with fractured groups just as Europe's is and never have any real power.

Both systems are designed this way. ALL systems are designed to prevent this. Capitalism, communism, socialism, fascism, representative democracy, these are just names for various flavors of contro that we are brainwashed into thinking are the only possible ways we can live civilly.

Our natural state is anarchy mixed with hyper balkanization. Basically communities, not past the point where our brains lose track of the #. The golden ratio as a unit of individuals, essentially.

As soon as libtards (retards, freaks and losers) stop siding with corporations to censor people. Tell me which is worse while you're at it, stupid nigger.

You sound like an insufferable faggot. Must be pantifa.

>When will the GOP's base stop voting for people who at least theoretically promise to try and help them, instead of someone who facilitates their own demise?

I work for a huge business (France's finest tire manufacturer, in fact) and I am paid an ample wage and have great benefits with only a two year degree. What is this nigger talking about?

I do think that Republicans should embrace a non-climate change based environmentalism though. One based on preserving wild places for hiking, hunting, admiring and our descendants

Of course I have saged..

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>"I come from the communist party and I'd like to ask you about which issues you consider most important in the coming election"
>"okay well I..."
>"WRONG CLASS WARFARE IS THE ONLY ISSUE THAT MATTERS TO THE WORKING CLASS"
>"What? Well my daughter was recently raped by a gang of muslim refug-
>"WRONG YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT THE BURGOISE"
>"...Well actually I already have food and shelter and other than that I actually do care about my daughter being raped the most"
>"WRONG THE WORKING CLASS IS BEING USED BY THE BURGOISE MUSLIM REFUGEES DID NOTHING WRONG THE BURGOISE FOOLED YOU INTO BLAMING THEM"

woooooow

>>"What? Well my daughter was recently raped by a gang of muslim refug-

Wonder who benefits from mass immigration and the 65 immigration act.

If there was a party that wanted didn't want to raise taxes on the middle class but raise them on the upper class well that would make an interesting choice. Unfortunately the choices are people who want to cut taxes on everyone or people that want to raise taxes on everyone. Oh and both of those choices are for massive loopholes for rich people.

We don't have traditional liberalism though, we have neoliberalism.

this

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Are we fucked?

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>modern day Republicans laud "the good ol' days"
>Modern day Republicans also for some reason like voting for canidates who are unironically not in their interests but in it for themselves and big corps by reducing taxes and removing red tape they face, EPA etc
>Same Republicans also fail to realise "the good 'ol days was full of gov regulations and at the same time had the highest tax rates on corps and income tax for big earners

Really makes you wonder.

Inb4 bait

How are handouts and genocidal anti-white policies good for whites?

>implying there is any difference between conservashits and demorats

Unironically this, they are literally one of the same coin.

(((Wolff))).

Filthy kike should be gassed.

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the first post made in this case is also the highest quality post in the thread

More gaslighting
KILLING ALL SOCIALISTS IS IN MY ECONOMIC INTEREST

SAGE

it won't matter if we don't have a border. 30 million illegals and counting. nevermind the billions in remittances from all the others.

>government shutdown
>related to american workers in any way
wat?

When will you stop making this thread?

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this guy is a career marxist shill. his mother was a (((german))) who came to the us during ww2. now we all have to pay

thanks a lot adolph