How will socialists explain the Venezuelan crisis?
How will socialists explain the Venezuelan crisis?
Isaac Stewart
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Nathan Nguyen
Now they will blame it on the US backed coup and sanctions.
Christian Taylor
Maduro didn't gulag the Venezuelan aristocracy. Now he's gonna get murdered by them.
Samuel Davis
>foreign interference caused this
>we must go back to real socialism
Joseph Roberts
>Chavez only nationalized 30% of the economy so it’s not really socialist
Christian Moore
"not real Socialism" Like they always do
Cooper Nelson
America and europe bad
Russia and china good
Kevin James
>Rich people hoard all the resources
Asher Nelson
But how is it real socialism though? Rich capitalists stayed rich and got even richer still.
Sebastian Roberts
>not real socialism
Grayson Morgan
Da fuck are you asking me for? I am telling you how the Socialist will answer.
Every time Socialism fails they say it was not real Socialism
Dylan Ramirez
What's most likely is they will credit Chavez with any apparent success and blame Maduro for all the failure
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John Lopez
Not real socialism, state capitalism and other gobbledigook
Asher Martinez
Carter Sanders
James Smith
American interventionism.
The shit that launches venezuela into a bloody civil war.
Luis Turner
because its literally not socialism unless youre a stupid fucking mutt living in some shitty farm that considers public education communist in which case you should be gulag'd
Jaxson Perez
They blame "corrupt government"
Aiden Cook
Then in a few years we will be told that "because of American interventionism in Venezuela it is now America's moral obligation to accept Venezuelan refugees."
Wyatt Russell
Ignoring that all the problems with maduro also existed with Chavez
>hyperinflation
>shortages
Bentley Adams
>Muh american sabotage
>Chavez reduced poverty until Maduro came into power
The last one ignoring how Chavez was lucky enough to die while oil prices wer over 100usd.
Lesson: no point in speaking to socialists. Bullets is all they deserve.
Juan Thomas
Ok Jow Forums define these words for me
Capitalism
Socialism
Communism
Jace Brooks
>it’s not real socialgasm
Useful idiots
Robert Smith
define socialism
Angel Bell
Oh rly? Then please explain what the 3-tiered exchang rate system was, which was a direct subsidy on the import of goods, anihilating any incentive to produce locally.
Or how car factories were required to sell vehicles at a loss to employees?
Ian Hill
What a retarded question, they never fucking strengthened their one-tick pony economy, this would've been the result regardless of whatever dominant political ideology was in effect.
Andrew Scott
the problem isn't socialism
Dominic Lopez
Tyler Richardson
the problem is capitalism
Ethan Phillips
They will say that Venezuela did it wrong and THEY will do it right. Also they will call you hitler if you disagree, forgetting hitler was a socialist.
Alexander White
Wrong. All you had to do was not subsidize your population by handing out dollars for cheap imports of every good under the sun.
The catastrophe in venezuela is a direct result of socialist management which places "social welfare" above everything.
Cooper Bennett
fuck you hitler
Nolan Watson
sounds like a problem with international exchange rates not in venezuela's control and desperate currency manipulation and price controls implemented by an administration over its head as damage control to hyperinflation
has nothing to do with collective ownership of industry nor does venezuela have a particularly high percentage of collectivized industry compared to western European countries
James Mitchell
Emo communism
Jaxon Russell
that doesnt happen
that only exists in your mind
even Jacobin thinks venezuela is shit and they are a literal socialists
Aaron Howard
hitler wasnt a socialist
he murdered all of the socialists in the nazi party and his entire regime existed to wage total war on "Jewish Bolshevism"
Blake Sanchez
Oh yeah that never happened
Easton Torres
>"Revolution" is funded by CIA
>Venezuelan government isn't actually socialist
>Anarchists in the region aren't doing anything
>Just another miserable, apathetic country
Camden Wright
Americans obviously disrupted Venezuela because we can't stand it that socialism should be successful.
James Price
Wrong again. Exchange rate was set by the venezuelan central bank, nothing to do with international markets.
Problem is they gave away dollars for very cheap if you said you wanted to import basic foodstuff. The result of this is obvious: why produce locally if I can import for pennies?
GTFO here with your "but it wasnt real socialism" shit.
Grayson Hill
> the americans did it
> the western imperialists at it again baka
Tbh, a low-IQ population deserve a low-IQ ideology and government.
They didn't bat an eye when Chavez was nationalizing and giving them "free" shit, and now they cry....
Yeah, get fucked!
Brayden Robinson
>expecting halfwits to ever own up to the failures of their retarded woman-tier ideology.
Cameron Barnes
>the Führer of The National Socialist German Workers' Party from 1921 - 145 was not a socialist
ok
Wyatt Wilson
Are you trolling? Tons of hollywood socialists praised Chavez in 2012. Oil was at 100usd a barrel so he could splurge on social welfare. Shame it doesn't last like that forever.
Jace Walker
Actually, I can't think of an example of socialism existing and then "failing", all countries that claimed they were socialists were actually oppressors and their societies suffered.
An example of socialism succeeding is revolutionary Catalonia.
Kevin Ward
none of that is unique to socialism
Hong Kong has a pegged currency. Are they now socialists?
and kim jong un is democratic right?
Nicholas Carter
>Shame it doesn't last like that forever.
Dylan Sanchez
Well it's the sole reason of being for the Venezuelan army, everything is justified because of it, the hyper inflation the secret service the russian troops, etc.
The less the americans does, the less likely for Maduro to stay in power.
Cameron Robinson
socialism isnt taxes you dumb boomer
Luke Wilson
>Socialism isn't taxes
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Alexander Moore
Wrong again! Hong Kong has a single exchange rate. Not a 3 tiered monstrosity like Venezuela. You are clueless on this topic, and prefer to just spout "not real socialism".
Would love to teach you something but I got a long flight ahead of me now. Best of luck.
Noah Smith
>succeeding
>collapsed quickly when nationalists attacked it
Hudson Wood
Wait for enough time to pass after we get in and restore a democracy: DAYUM DUH DICK SUCKIN USA DONE FUKT IT ALL UP!! THEY WAS GOOD BOIS DEY DINDU NUFFIN USA """"MEDDLED"""" WITH THEM!
Jack Peterson
like the capitalist in 1929 and 2008?
Carter Roberts
>american flag
boy am i not surprised
tell me how old you are
Henry Walker
thatcher is a neo-liberal kike
Aiden Evans
Wow amazing insight, why are socialists so smart?
Chase Murphy
lots of countries have price controls
lots of countries have pegged currencies
lots of countries manipulate currency
none of this is exclusive to venezuela or to any particular economic system
Joshua Perry
>american flag
>taxes are socialism!!!!
shocked
Parker Lopez
>turning point jewsa
Andrew Diaz
Camden Collins
Venezuela has lots of oligarhs... How is it Socialism, again?
Andrew Robinson
Again: you are clueless. No decent country has distinct exchange rates deppending on which product is being imported.
Gonna fly now.
Jeremiah Howard
exchange rates arent socialist you dullard
Oliver Hughes
At which point does a country successfully defend itself? Revolutionary Catalonia lasted for 3 years with millions of people with an anarchist system. That's an amazing success for socialism.
Historical materialism is difficult to progress, the enlightenment of the people is necessary for the continued success of socialism.
Jason Jones
Venezuelan case includes military intervention of the industry, soldiers are terrible factory administration.
Mason Rivera
You keep stunning me with that amazing socialist IQ.
Grayson Turner
taxes arent socialism
Asher Williams
Whatever moron, enjoy being stupid and lessening society and existence wherever you go.
Leo Thomas
world wide oil glut
Christopher Thompson
>Pissing away your foreign currency reserves on social welfare isn't socialism
Okay!
Andrew Flores
UHHHH CANT TALK GOTTA VERY IMPORTANT FLIGHT TO CATCH FOR MY VERY IMPORTANT THING I HAVE TO DO
what a guy
it isnt. socialism is incredibly specific to one thing in particular which does not happen to be international exchange rates and monetary policy.
Liam Johnson
how do capitalist explain economical crisis?by claiming it was no real (insert economical ideology here)
David Edwards
System may have some social elements to it. Dosn't mean it socialist.
Christopher Young
You're not any better disinfo agent.
Aiden Miller
they unironically think burning down the economy and going into a recession every 10 years is the most effective and efficient way to structure society
Robert Russell
the fuck are you mad at me for
what fucking disinfo am i spreading
Hunter Butler
Here's a meme
Kevin Evans
Socialism is communism is Democrats
Nathan Cooper
one of the dumbest things i have ever seen on this shitty board
Adrian Howard
>something good happens
That's not real socialism
>something bad happens
Lol commie sucks!!!!!!11
And vice versa
Charles Hill
Already are explaining it kek
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Mason Martinez
Xavier Murphy
James Moore
That is real socialism dick. That is what it’s meant to do. That’s why you have giant corporations pushing it in America.
Blake Sanchez
>muh sanctions
>muh based putin will save venezuela from ebil cia coup
Isaac Allen
Andrew Wright
Ayden Thomas
They'll claim it's not caused by socialism but by privatisation
Nicholas Brown
remember
Brandon Diaz