Is programming for everyone?

cuz after civilization falls and all your technology fails you nature will remain and you're gonna wish you understood biology and chemistry and how to survive off the land

This, mister Goldberg just wants to have at least 5 people to pick from for each open position.

nah dude its harder for some then others
its learning a new language in a lot of ways, a language where semantics and grammar are critical with no room for failure or your instructions wont get through to the machine. not everyone is mentally set up for that kind of thinking and for a lot of people it would be not just difficult but unpleasant.

This.
Unless you are genuinely smart and have either a degree, or experience from your autistic hobbies, you are going to be outcompeted by pajeets willing to work for 1/5th of what you need to even survive.

DESU being a programmer is not only an absolutely overflowing field of work unless you're literally the top .001% of legendary at it with shit pay shit treatment shit job security but it's actually quite a difficult and straining job on ones mental health with everything taken into consideration.

It's no fucking wonder.

i wonder how long before basic programming jobs become automated

Consider sudoku, my man.

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Is that you, Satoshi?

programming is for beta males

Speak for yourself. I'm not legendary, but I got it nice. And with area for improvement.
Not so true. You just need to start as shit and in a few years (around 2) you got necessary experience.
That's right - to some degree. Most sought programming languages are on similar base. So jumping between them is only a matter of reread specs.
Aww man. Burned. That's shit.
Say that to my boss.
Some of them are. Virtualization, bootstraping, ...

based code

And with zero fucks around...

from api.libs.rates import Rates
from api.models import Currency

class RatesCurrencies(Rates):
"""
currency rates extended by their code name
"""

def __init__(self, rate: float=1.0):
super().__init__(rate=rate)
self.currency = ''

def set_currency(self, currency_code=Currency.CURRENCY_DEFAULT):
if isinstance(currency_code, Currency):
self.currency = currency_code
else:
found_currency = Currency.objects.filter(code=currency_code)
if found_currency:
self.currency = found_currency[0]
else:
found_currency = Currency()
found_currency.code = currency_code
self.currency = found_currency
return self

def get_currency(self):
return self.currency

he already has 5000

It's not for everyone, it's hardly for anyone in fact. You need well above-average IQ to do it well and to keep up. Your success in it directly correlated with your ability to absorb new information fast.

Not only that, but you must also be okay with your work being of solitary nature. At worst your job is staring at inscrutable error messages on a terminal window around the clock and then going home without any success.

Most people aren't sufficiently autistic to deal with that.

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Cant be bothered. Im happy with my neet life and bare minimum i get with my neet bucks. Porn gives me sexual release, vidya gives me sense of achievement and wage cucks buy me my chicken tendies. Your pic related is actual paradise.

>neofetch neofetch --ascii "$(fortune|cowsay -f cat -W 30)" --colors 7 7 5 11 7 9

Jow Forums teach me something actually useful like how to make my neofetch ascii cat say racist shit kek

beep boop beep boop

t. I prefer to continue slowly committing sudoku
You do realize NEETdom ends in serious mental issues, drug abuse and/or suicide, right?

>Why refugees don't learn programming?

They are too dumb

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It's less about languages themselves and more how they work. There are three main paradigms: procedural, object-orientated and functional.

kinda already does..not enough though

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Poolhall Junkies.

Doesn't facebook just do shit like that to get around ad blockers?

>You need well above-average IQ
well i do enjoy the humour of rick and morty
maybe i should be programigger

if u do web dev ure faggot

So does everything else

Maybe over there in the Appalachian Mountains, but not in the rest of the West.

Based leaf

Meh... theres not enough motivation, reward to do anything let alone learn programing.
Pussy was a great motivator for me once. I remember hunting for jobs with a passion in hopes i get a girl, be able to take her out, start a family provide and dedicate my life to them. Along the way a realize i cant get girls and never have a family.
I adapted perfectly to neet life im pretty happy to be honest and ill be happy as long as this free ride lasts.

That pic IS a facebook ad doing just that.

No, we don't need any more pretentious dudeweedbros.

Better than most of modern western woman. Computer only tells you did shit when you really did. Woman need no reason for telling.
Yep, no nigga sport.

This fucking bloat seems like it was done on purpose, not tardiness. I mean wtf is this shit.

Nice blogpost. You evaded my question.

It is absolutely done on purpose. It's done to circumvent adblockers.

never heard of this movie, unironically thanks

hello

im programmer. i use bbc basic at work

Programming is fucking awful. There is nothing at all intuitive about it. It has rules but they are fucking retarded and only made sense to the original coders. It’s probably worse because the terminology is fucked. An actual language you can speak has a clear structure you can see from the outset, and cobbling together simple sentences is intuitive and simple. While coding you can practically do nothing yourself and half of the functionality is locked behind bits of code that make no sense in maths or in logic

Programming is mad for me atm, im making an AI trading bot with a mate, were about to break the 70% win rate. It's a fucking nightmare to code though

I think you meant fuck jannies

I’m learning now. Also going to a bootcamp soon. Everything is based on JavaScript. It seems in demand, but is webshit really the best path? I need a job soon, and webshit bootcamp seems like it can deliver.

>Is programming for everyone?
No, programming is not for everyone.
For one thing, there are people who simply don't understand it.
And even if you understand how it works, that's not enough. You have to understand scoping, side effects, maintainability, reusability. Plus you usually don't work alone, so you have to write code that can be understood and maintained by others. That takes experience.
Then there are software frameworks. You usually don't just have to write code that works, but code that subjects itself under the constraints and restrictions of the frameworks that are used. Again: Experience and read a book worth of documentation.

If you've written a program that counts to 10 in a high school CS class, then that nowhere nearly prepares you for what real life programmers do.

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all office environments are feminist pc multicult shitscapes, and I spent 12 years of my childhood sitting still under flourescent lights in the public education system so doing that as an adult isn't appealing. would rather go the trade job route. Don't want to make some gay-app or a website for a shitcoin ICO.

Frontend like JS stays demanded in medium term. Then you can go to the mobile development.
These high school programs are just funny. That is not like in these old days when you must set a whole environment or (earlier) prepare it externally and wait for your time on preprocessor and actual run.

I know, that's why I asked lol

>drug abuse
I dont use drugs of any kind including drinking or smoking. I just dont see a point in them. Drugs are escape from reality, thing wagecucks use to escape their daily grind and dealing with other people. They need to numb their brain before they explode from stress.
As i said im pretty happy. No stress, no worries, no troubles so i dont need to drink beer to calm myself down or whatever.

>mental issues
I dont know. I didnt notice any. But there is that saying "Crazy people dont know they are crazy" so i dont know. If i had any i guess i would need other people to tell me i do but since my interaction with others are saying hello at the grocery store 2 times a week i guess im good.

>suicide
Again why would i end my happy life? I always thought thats a cowards way out anyway. I have this short window of opportunity to be alive before i return to nothingness... why would i end it short.
On the contrary im hoping for some medical breakthrough to extend life so i can continue to shitpost and post memes for 500 years.

>ends in serious mental issues, drug abuse and/or suicide, right?
That's what having a job does.

I tried it. Didn't like it.

Statistically speaking, no. That's just false.

I said
>end in
didn't I?

NEETdom in the long-term entails a life that is knee-deep in elements that foster all those things I said. Isolation for an example fosters depression. You might not realize this yet, but the doors are closing for you at an increasing rate - and I don't mean just good goy materialistic bullshit way either. By not engaging with the world you're unwittingly making it harder for you to change your life. You see, the mind adapts to things. By remaining a NEET you're missing out on a huge number of achievements and experiences that enable you to move forward and survive. The more you delay those experiences, the harder they'll be for you (eventually they'll be impossible).

The NEET life is fine as long as you believe you're "free". It's only once you realize you're trapped that the escapism and mental issues set in. There is no such thing as freedom, you can't escape your own genetic programming. We're not programmed for leisure and staleness.

The amount of new information completely depends on what field you're in. Also, the new stuff is often based on the basics that you learn early on.

That's true. I don't think a lot of people want to end up as codemonkeys though.

I developed my own app for the app store, it's going into to beta release soon. I need to parse the errors Google play console found regarding UI readability.

The codemonkeys are main demand. And most of work is repeating and changing a little what you already done.

Quit projecting your shitty mental state on us NEETs, faggot.

ok but your pic has nothing to do with programming

You don't have to end up as a code monkey if you don't feel like being up-to-date all the time with the newest techniques. In web development that would be a requirement, but take for example an old teacher of mine. He worked in a steel factory managing machines that moves large steel plates from one place to another. So while getting to that level of being able to manage a machine like that takes years, it isn't that difficult anymore once you've learned about linear algebra and embedded systems, because most of the machines there used the same technologies for decades.

>Why NEETs don't learn programming?
The same reason most people don't do math in their free time like they did in math class when they were in school. It sucks.

>programming is not for everyone.
if you can search for things on google and then copy and paste working code, then you can be a programmer. it's a joke and anyone can do it. ok not anyone, but anyone that is not mentally retarded and can read.

>projecting
But I AM out there in the world. I have a home and a career. I am gaining the experiences and achievements as one should.

I'm not sure that's accurate. The small changes accrue fast into a chaotic mess without appropriate supervision.

Really?

neets most definitely learn programming. Problem is HR throw their curriculums into the trash as soon as they spot a "hole" or a strange age in it.

Many NEETS are autistic or schizoid and genuinely don't care about any of that stuff you mentioned and seriously want nothing more than a cozy solitary existence. Lots would rather die than be a non-hikki wage slave.

>Really?
yeah really, html and css is not programming

You're absolutely right. However embedded systems is a specialization in its own right. When people talk about programming, they're not typically talking about cross-scientific specialties.

talks about programming - shows markup

Programming is some years of syntax learning, some years of structure learning and many years of hard, logic work.

Then that's not programming. It's copy pasting.

Its boring when you dont have tasks/ideas to solve through programming.

sorry bro, it's programming and that's why the entire industry can be done by pajeets and our job is nothing special

this is low level scriptkid behaviour - not programming

First off, HTML5+CSS is Turing complete. Secondly, that picture is related to programming in the sense that it depicts a programmatically generated, intentionally mismatched pattern designed to avoid pattern recognition software.

If you're going to be an obtuse cunt at least know your shit.

see

Failed at referencing, see

>Many NEETS are autistic or schizoid and genuinely don't care about any of that stuff you mentioned
It seems you should re-read that post, you failed to understand what I was talking about. In fact, I explicitly pointed out that the good goy wage slave consumerism shit isn't the point, yet that's the only thing you're talking about.

It's a matter of how you define programming. Your boundary for programming is low; as soon as someone can copy paste code and compile a program you consider that programming. To me programming can be as hard as one wants it to be. I'd like to see an average pajeet copy pasting assembly code to write a bootloader.

> HTML5+CSS is Turing complete

Dude. Explain plz - how can a system be turing complete if it is not active for itself? A programming language is turing complete if you can do any calculation with it. Explain me - how would you calculate your lambda and vector4 matrices in pure html without a asynchronous language?

Programming is not for anyone. One good programmer is much better than 10 poor ones.

You're on the wrong board for this kind of autism, let me help you

Css function calc() in latest releases. Pretty neat shit.
> developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/calc

I sucked too many redpills, snowflake. Go in the cellar, find the rope - then use it. Low level subturd. You seem to be a newfag snowflag wanna be coder. Kys.

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True. If there was lack of programmers, salary would have skyrocketed

Css3 is nice - but I was talking about vanilla html. The webgl stuff is great now ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_110 You can use this in CSS.

I already have a career in programming and I'm not autistic like you, so yeah, maybe you should take your own advice.

>Learn a language
>don't even know what I want to do with it

no point for me

Programming is nothing special
Even complicated algorythms can be eployed by mouth-breathing retards without even looking at the code inside thanks to modular nature of current languages
Just call that do_everything_for_me() function from the framework made specifically so any sociologist can use it

>r/programming, the poster

I had to tap out at lesson seven on freecodecamp.com. thank God it didn't take long to find out that this shit isn't for me.

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t. NEET who wants to believe all Jow Forumsacks are developmentally handicapped like himself

Sure - but CSS can't exute itself without a Browser? Can you execute your .html and your .css for itself? Like any other "real" programming language? Compile it - run it - done? This is the point. Anyway, I interpret 'Turing-complete' as being simulation equivalent to a Universal Turing Machine (UTM; which, in turn, is capable of simulating any Turing machine -- hence 'universal').

>Programming is nothing special
>it enables mouth-breathing retards to use incredibly sophisticated tools

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