>Alcohol causes all kinds of disease like cirrhosis and wernicke >Alcohol results in all kinds of accident including road accidents and pregnancy accidents
Why hasn't the west banned this drug? Are you all too intoxicated to tell that its ruining your lives? Some countries in the middle east banned this shit and you rarely find anyone who has ever drank a single drop of alcohol "here".
>inb4 " We already tried it and it failed" Its because you didn't leave it long enough, you should deal with the current intoxicated generation with rehabilitation and future kids will find it hard to find alcohol but most wouldn't bother looking for it anyways because they aren't intoxicated
I'm drunk posting. My asshole will pay the price in the morning.
Nathan Smith
Yes, forgot to mention the gay accidents that occur with the drug, why are you killing youselves user? Embrace the life without alcohol its much better
William Williams
I know fully that you use this drug for forgetting your problems and such and thats a benefit but the risks outweigh the benefits of using it.
Ian Morris
If it wasn't for alcohol you wouldn't be here.
James Peterson
?? Why wouldn't I be here
Are you drunk posting too?
Lucas Peterson
Instead of banning alcohol, you westerners are legalizing more drugs like weed and now you're aiming for cocaine. When will you realize its the addiction that has lead you to this?
Jose Wilson
>you westerners >Early Quran - alcohol is OK >Mid Quran - alcohol is only OK after battle >Late Quran - alcohol is forbidden Just accept it Achmed, Mohammed was a fake prophet who made it up as he went.
Jace Moore
The thread isn't popular naturally, you westerners can't argue with the risks of alcohol and you know it but you still go on killing youselves. Christianity is such a stupid religion for leagalzing such a dangerous drug, the jew and muslims are more redpilled than them
Jaxson Sanders
Lol, that isn't how it works. You can't tell people to stop and they stop. Look at how America prohibited alcohol once and then they failed. Its because the Quran cam with such steps that they became less sensitive to alcohol with time until they were free from the intoxication. Thats how rehabilation works.
Nolan Reyes
Your ancestors needed alcohol to survive, not to mention your parents were probably drunk when you were conceived.
Now, you thank alcohol ad all it's done for you. Prick.
Jace Ross
Rehabilation isn't an abrupt process. Its a gradual process. The Quran was absolutely right in doing these steps, you just proved it was ahead of its time.
Kayden Long
My whole generation never drank a single drop of alcohol. Maybe your generation did? And you are calling yourself an accident?
Jackson Richardson
None of you came up with a single point to prove that alcohol shouldn't be banned, you all are just too intoxicated and can't start thinking about stopping to drink it....
Xavier Sanders
>My whole generation never drank a single drop of alcohol. I have doubt. Major doubt Help me with that and show your flag.
Cameron Sanders
You probably don't know but in arab countries here very very rare you find alcohol except in uea and other touristic places but muslims dont get access to alcohol and they never look for it anyways because we aren't addicted...
Luke Fisher
Switching back to meme flag,
Its not too late, you can still rehabilate from it. It doesn't take islam to get you out of it addiction. Many programs can help you out of it and you should advocated for banning alcohol for future kids.
Colton Powell
If you start by teaching your kids the harmful effects of alcohol and telling them to never drink it then they surely will grow with that attitude and hey you would have avoided the harm that it brings from them. Surely it won't be easy as it is because of social influence that's why a public policy for banning alcohol or restricting it so much should come into place so that they don't even have access to it and they won't need it anyways.
Jackson Thomas
Bahrain. In Bahrain, alcohol is only available in hotels and through private licenses for sale to non-Muslims only. Drinking alcohol in public is still illegal, and being drunk can actually get you thrown behind bars.
So you and I both know that there is alcohol in your country, but you hit me a statement like "My whole generation has never drank SINGLE drop of alcohol".
Now that's hard to believe.
>Heh, he actually dropped the meme flag Always remember how I made you do that.
Jack Nelson
You repeated what I said though? That alcohol is available to only non-muslims. We are muslims so we don;t have access to it and we aren't intoxicated so why should we go after it? Plus I wasn't born in bahrain but from Saudi and over there there is an almost complete ban of alcohol. I know that its hard for you to understand but really me and I am above my 25s and all my colleagues and my parents never ever touched alcohol. Its our culture, we don't even know how it tastes like.
Michael Scott
>except in uea and other touristic places Yep I did tell you that it exists. I really know its hard to believe because you live in that mess of a drug but there is no point for me to advocate for banning alcohol if I know we muslims drink it. Heck, its a joke to go and ask a haji (old muslim dude) if he ever drank alcohol.
Liam Johnson
You don't need islam for you to stop alcohol. Start by teaching your kids about the harmful effects and surely they will grow up with the attitude that its bad. Ofcourse its not going to be easy due to social influence but if you introduce a public health policy to ban it or restrict it then they won't have access to it and they won't need it because they won't be addicted to it. An alcoholic has always drank alcohol, you can't have an alcoholic who never drank alcohol.
Ian Walker
I find you naivete rather cute. If you think for one second not one single drop (and that's what you said) has ever been drank by a non tourist, then you're delusional or extremely short sided.
I bet your leaders drink alcohol regularly.
Christopher Taylor
I know this thread is being pushed back because it isn't a popular topic amongst yourselves. Thats natural because you are all too intoxicated and the alcohol has affect your reasoning skills when it comes to this subject so you will obviously avert your eyes from the truth and move on to other useless topics like banning something almost harmless like circumcision and barking about why cross marriage is bad and so on and so on.
I won't deny back in high school a muslim I knew openly said that he and his father drank alcohol. He was half canadian though but that doesn't matter. There are a few here that drink it but what I am saying the very very big majority do not drink it. Just think about it logically, why will I voulantarily go and drink it if I am not addicted to it and I know its addictive and I know that the culture here looks down on such behavior and our religion forbids it? See? Its the big majority over here that don't drink it so I can safely say that my parents never drank it and neither did my generation. If they did they would have gone back to it but there are very few places for that anyways and its very difficult to get.
Matthew Johnson
It amazes me how you can't grasp that I have never drank alcohol before and I absolutely don;t even know how it tastes like, it shows how different cultures can surprise you this much.
Grayson Perry
Well I'll bump this anyways
If you still can't understand the horrible effects of drinking alcohol then you are just intoxicated. Alcohol should be banned and many many research have showed its bad effects.
AVERTING YOUR EYES WILL NOT SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS. WAKE UP
Aaron Rodriguez
>I won't deny back in high school a muslim I knew openly said that he and his father drank alcohol >Whole generation >Not a single drop Those were your words.
I thank God everyday that I was born here in the great U.S.A where I have the freedom to choose to drink alcohol or not.
Choke on sand you dirty camel rider.
Josiah Hill
See what did you mean by my generation? I though you meant by parents and ancestors? I still don't get you? I didn't lie when I said my generation didn't beacue they truly didn't, my friend's generation I don't know because my friend's generation isn't mine. In the past, in my grand parents time there was no tourism or whatever. Drinking alcohol meant you get kicked off society. So what are you implying? That you thank your so called great USA for intoxicating you? You go around getting fucked by guys? You like accidental gay sex? You love accidental pregnancies? You love cirrhosis? You stupid cuck, that ideology will lead your kids to hitting trees due to drink driving and dying from horrible painful diseases.
Xavier Sanders
He was half canadian too, his mother could easily influence his father and him into sipping a drop and boom full blown addiction. And one thing leads to another. That's what you get for being too open-minded that you can't reason what's good and bad for you.
Luis Roberts
Also, are you trying to deny that alcohol is bad? What is your point over here? No matter how much you try bending the truth or whatever, in here the vast vast majority don't drink alcohol and I am proudly one of them.
Like I said, you can't avert your eyes from who is the enemy here
Hunter Gray
So far NOT A SINGLE POINT has been raised as to why alcohol shouldn't be banned. Even you westerners can't be this stupid, surely you realize why this drug should be banned?
Liam Fisher
Keeps the niggers in check. 20-30 y/o niggers are mostly alcoholics.
Christopher Parker
>Its because you didn't leave it long enough if they tried "long enough" they would have collapsed their country Actually, that may work perfectly for the current state of things. Tell people they can't even drink anymore and they'll start destroying the government and vote for people that will get them alcohol back.
Adrian Torres
Then don't do it the usual way, do it the indirect way. Ban it slowly, start with increasing the prices then reducing the number of bars slowly and slowly and intorducing more programs for rehabilation. Increase awareness and make it slowly more difficult for people to get it. Don't do it abruptly because they will look in the black markets for it. If you teach the kids of its harm and try to rehabilate the adults slowly you can reach a fully functional society again. Remember alcohol is just another drug and detoxification exists for it just like all other drugs.
Leo Myers
Most importantly are the next generation, increase the age required for drinking and make it as difficult as possible for the young adults to get it especially the ones who never drank it before.
Thomas Thomas
>"We already tried it and it failed" >Its because you didn't leave it long enough >1920 to 1933 >13 years was not long enough No, it was long enough to create Organised Crime, which was a much-worse problem than alcohol ever was. Learn some history, faggot.
Cameron Brooks
Not everyone that drinks alcohol is an alcoholic. Retard.
Elijah Jenkins
Its because I knew history that I said you already tried faggot. Its because you did it in a stupid way retard try reading this If you think its impossible or something like that then look at Saudi as an example, they might be superior to you in this field. They almost (if not) completely banned alcohol because it was done in the past in a gradual way (the Quran's way). I am not saying you should follow islam, I am saying if you are going to ban it do it in a not so stupid way.
Joseph Hernandez
>Giving ((the government)) any power that they don't absolutely need Fucking retard
Jack Garcia
>I knew history "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." — George Santayana, "The Life of Reason"
Carter Carter
I never said that I said all alcoholics drink alcohol and no alcoholic has never drank alcohol I never said all alcohol drinkers are alcoholic stupid
Get comfy and expand your almond activators CHN IS COMING BACK SOON Bellagio Sampler's training is almost complete and his power level is rising rapidly.,.. >to my Legion Your General returns >to Our Enemies The crusade begins soon, God's warriors are coming and ALL you shills will bow down and kiss our feet and declare JESUS IS LORD! >this terrifies kikes
Ryan Sanders
I'd be more than happy to see booze banned, annon. Fuck, it would make MY shitty job easier. Unfortunately you can't make a law that is un-enforcible, and banning -anything- makes a black market for the few derelicts that want whatever it is. Unless you can dominate that black market completely, your laws will be a joke. Of course if you wanted to institute draconian facism, ban something popular like booze to justify the facist jackboots.
Chase Morales
>Saudi completely banned alcohol ...except for the rich and influential, L0L
William Cruz
Are you stupid? I already said I knew your past or is your comprehension weak? Read the damn thing, it isn't impossible and you know it and the living example is Saudi. What are you trying to imply here? That islam reigns over Christianity beacause christianity was too stupid to legalize such a drug?
Isaac Reed
>I already said I knew your past ...and that was a lie, because you don't know the history of Organised Crime in America, you stupid ass.
Kayden Jones
I don't know about the rich and whatever, I know the middle class don't have access to it and we don't need it anyways. It by law banned alcohol so whatever your point is here is that we are saved by not getting its diseases and its effects
Gavin Reyes
You don't understand. We actually need booze to live at this point. Its so ingrained in us that we have stunning tolerance for it. I don't get hung over. Ever. I get black out drunk, sleep 4 hours and I am sober again. I don't even drink regularly. Its actually good for Europeans. Makes us less antisocial.
Juan Adams
>I don't know about the rich and whatever You don't know much about anything to do with alcohol, do you?
William Sanchez
i'm all for banning alcohol and tobacco and legalizing weed
Sebastian Jones
Alcohol is shit you should be smoking hash and fasting in total darkness and silence.
Alexander Miller
>niggers causes all kinds of crimes like theft, rapes and murders >Niggers results in all kinds of accident including dindu nuffings and rapebaby accidents
Why hasn't the west banned these niggers yet?
Nathaniel Barnes
Fucking check those numbers
Jonathan Clark
>some muzzie shitskin wants me executed if my homemade applejuice goes off Yikes
Jayden Garcia
It just gets sold on the black market and causes crime to skyrocket. Its in our culture. Its in our blood. Why don't you have some bacon? You know if you cook it passed 150 degrees and wash your hands it won't kill you right?
Lucas Reyes
ITT: A bunch of faggots who lack self control under the influence blaming their freedoms over the former.
Ryder Brooks
Because we're not an authoritarian chink or mudslime collectivist shithole that bans things?
Banning freedom is anti-white. There's plenty of third-world communist and fascist shitholes for you to flock off to.
Samuel King
i think just coors light should be banned, what a disgusting beer.
Joseph Morris
I think just the historical use of it plays a big role. People will always be much more okay with a drug that Jesus Christ himself used. (Granted it was soft liquor like wine and whatnot)
Gabriel Lewis
To genocide white ppl , u know so we can be easier to control, the elites want to rule forever
Dylan Jones
"Almost harmless like ritual religious genital mutilation intended to create a sunk-costs-fallicy and bound by mutual disfigurement attachment to the perpetrating religious cult responsible for the mutilation." FTFY. Nice Stockholme syndrome there buddy, oh shit my eye lid got some sand in it! BETTER CUT MY FUCKING EYELIDS OFF!
Andrew Harris
I've been up for the past 4 hours drinking whiskey for a toothache. This shit works better than xtra strength advil.
Carson Thomas
I don’t think we should flat out ban it, as as with nearly all drugs there is a way to use it safely and in moderation, maybe just prohibit things like buying copious amounts of hard liquor in a short period of time or banning some extra pure alcohol spirits.
Brandon Moore
If something is morally wrong, any decent prophet or teacher tells you to stop it immediately. You don't take down immoral behaviour in stages because that means you are condoning immoral behaviour in the short term.
Either islam was at one point promoting immoral behaviour or there is nothing morally wrong with drinking alcohol.
Jayden King
kek
Sebastian Phillips
agree, alcohol intoxication is effortless hedonism and self-harm. rampant alcohol abuse is a symptom of decay, like of the Roman social decline. the West is slowly dying due to decadent hyperindividualism eroding social cohesion
Cooper Richardson
I see you scuttled off this thread after I called out your ignorance. Good riddance to bad rubbish!
Aiden Sanchez
Because first wave feminism / the temperance movement gave us prohibition, which gave us the mob, which gave us the FBI, which then got the mob elected. Prohibition never works and you’re an honorary woman for starting this thread.
Caleb Hall
Without alcohol we wouldn't have QT3. 14s with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. Why would you want to live in such a world?
Kevin Hall
See reach the point in which there is a stable society and a black market for the drug in which a few go after it and you successfully banned the drug.
As a med student I think I know WAY more than you can ever know about it.
But you do understand that it needs to go don't you? The idea that you need the drug to live is just the usual thing a drug does to your brain, it is no different than cocaine and the other abuse drugs.
ITS BECAUSE YOU BANNED IT IN A STUPID WAY. Have you undestood that in capitals? Or should I keep on replying to you to repeat it? You did it stupidly, that isn't how you ban alcohol idiot.
It isn;t applejuice and I am trying to help no execute you retard. It will make my life easier if there were no fucking cirhosis patients and and the shit alcohol brings to clinics when i grad from med.
Thats only if you do it in a stupid way. If you just ban it then obviously your government will fall.
So why don't you legalize everything including cocaine? Just legalize everything and see your shithole of a country fall even lower
Who sees your dick rather than your partner? Are you so gay that you spend your time thinking about what happens to other people's dicks?
You idiot, the prophet was advocating for alcohol being bad again and again. You cannot and I REPEAT TO EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD YOU CANNOT BAN ALCOHOL ABRUPTLY. If the prophet did that there would be a HUGE disaster similar to what happened to america. The purpose of islam doing it gradually was to stop the immoral behavior over a long time
Whoever gave it to you was stupid, because that is not the way any rehabilation from a drug works.
Dominic Brooks
This is the same country where the secret police can abduct you in the night for your crimes against 'vice and virtue'. The same country responsible for funding islamic terrorism. The same country that was such a shithole, with a kid butchering a maid and keeping her body in the FUCKING FRIDGE that the president of a literal shithole of a country, the Phillipines, declared that Saudi sucked, and Philipino nationalists could flee back home on the countrys dime as an issue of saftey, THAT is how fucked up Saudi is.
Matthew Diaz
Why we can't eat bacon is a totally different topic, I do agree that bacon doesn't have any bad effects but why islam banned it is not part of this discussion.
William Sanchez
>As a med student I think I know how to ban alcohol As a med student, you don't know the first thing about banning anything, boy.
Gavin Carter
You don't understand. I was like you. Then I drank. Then I smoked weed. You know what? It saved my life. Made me happy. Gave me friends. Sitting in a bar talking with people you know is something wonderful. If anything people need to learn how to drink. You can get drunk and not drive your car into pedestrians. You can be an adult and keep yourself together. We have been doing this for 100,000 years. We seem to be doing very well for ourselves. Did you know most Europeans primarily drank weak beer instead of water? Like I'm giving up on 100,000 years of culture and genetic disposition because your ancestors couldn't brew jack shit while mine were brewing what would eventually become that watered down kiked up jack Daniels.
Jack Edwards
I don't give a crap what you call Saudi and what it did or whatever. That isn't the point of all of this. The point is that for a FACT Saudi managed to ban alcohol and people roaming the street are majority non drinkers regardless of anything else and for a FACT Alcohol accidents don't occur in saudi nearly as frequently as in the west.
Asher King
Look at you. You're so fucking deep that you've had your dick mutilated, without your adult consent, and you're trying to justify it to strangers on the internet, and instead of engaging with the issue, which you have NO idea about the other side of, you'd rather deflect and make it about the accuser, rather than the subject.
You have stockholme syndrome. You've been mutilated, and it would be a personal blow to your ego to acknowledge that you have no idea what you've lost, because it was done in the name of a religious ritual, and to disagree would be to disagree with the actions of the fucking cult.
You're fucked dude. Don't make this about me. You've been mutilated. Theres nothing you can do about it now, so theres no point being defensive.
Kayden Johnson
It makes you happy, it makes someone else more susceptible miserable as he lies in a painful end stage liver disease waiting for his death.
Wyatt Morgan
Call me an idiot all you want, you inbred goat fucker, you didn't even understand my point.
You cannot condone short term degeneracy because it may lead to less degeneracy long term. The end doesn't justify the means.
Either Islam at one point condoned degeneracy, or there is nothing wrong with drinking alcohol.
Angel Anderson
>Ban it slowly nigger that works if you can actually boil that frog none of the people that are consuming alcohol in their preferred form will give it up in any way, there's no temperature differential that is low enough, raising prices doesn't work because they're already blowing all their money on it. reducing bars is impossible in a semi-free economy, it means reducing the amount of licenses to sell alcohol, in turn turning bars into cash cows. There is not a single force in the entire chain that is working in your favor
Wasn’t talking to you, camel jockey. And your response is predictably retarded.
Gavin Sanders
Ok fine fine I have been mutlitated, whatever makes you feel better at night. Now can we go back to the actual discussion here? About why alcohol is bad? Remember?
Juan Cruz
>I was so drunk and acted like a degenerate- Very funny. Drinking is good for you
Because im about to go get drunk and watch some footy.
Leo Ward
>Why hasn't the west banned this drug? Feminists did ban it. Here's what happened afterwards: >alcohol consumption went up >organized crime went way up >bootleg liquor was substandard, occasionally poisonous and could make you go blind >people turbocharged their cars so they could outrun the police
Kayden Cooper
>If you think its impossible or something like that then look at Saudi as an example you still have alcohol flowing in all forms for your richer fucks, and arabs going abroad are getting just as drunk as locals. This is not a battle you're fighting, you're trying to fight one of the most primal and ancient forms of humanity, you're trying to punch a mountain and no matter how much you try, your life, your entire legacy and the entirety of human history is not enough time to even put a dent in it, let alone reduce it in any way or form
James Morgan
it should be, and every stupid faggot who screams about ~evil weed~ should also be supporting prohibition
Daniel Brooks
This gave us NASCAR There’s literally nothing that can be done to America that doesn’t make us even more American
Lincoln Cruz
No you can do that, who the fuck do you think you are to say that? In rehabiliation for smoking we give nicotine gums? Why the hell do we give that? Why should we condone this short term degeneracy? Because we are trying to free him from the addiction you idiot, that;s how rehabilation works. WE GIVE PARTIAL AGONISTS and REDUCE THE DOSE WITH TIME. You can't play around me med, not with me.
I am OP degenerate, look at what drinking resulted...
Thats schizophrenic bullshit, the locals here mostly (I have rarely seen any) don't drink alcohol. Maybe some do when they go abroad? But that is detrimental for them because once you take it once there is no turning back. I am talking MAJORITY, we as a MAJORITY. See what are you doing bending the truth? Lets agree on something, we arabs in fact do drink less than you westerners right? Lets atleast agree on that.
Aaron Sanders
>(I have rarely seen any) you're not rich then, retard
Bentley Williams
Again raising the same point, it is because you did it in a stupid way. How many times must I repeat that, SAUDI is a LIVING example for a country that banned alcohol successfully.
Asher King
OH LOL the top 1% drink alcohol so many loool arabs are so retards.
Thomas Gonzalez
The government should only be able to restrict what they can prove directly causes harm to others and cannot be realistically controlled in society without federal intervention and aid. It is not big brother and was not intended to stand in a role of dictating what is best for you; the priority of the united states constitution was to insure people could be as free as realistically possible in a working society while still affording the security to assure the remaining existence of this country and secure a meaningful existence in this world.
Steps taken against this balance is tyranny, and I consider life meaningless under a state of tyranny and would rather risk my life to secure the death of that tyranny than live beneath its shade.
the top 1% is the people that make the rules you egregious retard
Liam Kelly
lol this thread is full of assblasted drinkers excusing their behavior by pointing at the existence other degeneracy.. sad
>drug banned >white people acting like niggers so much for our rotting civilization
Angel Scott
Sure. Ok. See? This is what happens when we can listen to each other. We can reach agreement. I hate drunks too. Bloody drunks. They ruin societys. Theyre idiots. They help make people into murderers.
Is alcohol bad? Hmm! Thats harder. I don't believe in absolutes, because they're imaginary, like zero. To have to be absolutist, you need draconian control over the people, and the problem is humans LIKE alcohol. They like it, dood. I absolutely hate drunks, but I don't need an authority from above telling me what HE wants for my decisions in life. Some protection against my failures of judgement is good, but 'thou shalt not' smacks of human demands for control over the actions of others.
I'm saying you might have the right idea, but the price you pay for trying to control the lives, liberty and literal body-ownership (deciding what THEY can put into themselves) is too high a price. I hate alcohol, but perhaps, because I have control, one day every few years, I might enjoy the sensations of a few glasses of wine. If you weren't absolutist, you might be able to too.
Gabriel Baker
Basically >USA is gr8 becz it gives me fredom 4 drugs >If USA ban drug, I will rebel
That's the drug speaking not you.
Ethan Murphy
Well thank god for the rules, I and many others don't have to deal with the drugs effects. Idiot
William Lopez
I forgot to add, part of it is about money. Since its a thing people want, legal or illegal, making it illegal just means only the wealthy can get it. The damage alcohol inflicts on western societies is clear, but its TOLLERATED because of the power of capital. It makes money change hands. LOTS of money. Big business. Big enough to even justify and PAY FOR all the harms it causes, according to most governments, to a degree. What do you think of that idea personally?