MSM Article questions why Holocaust survivors tend to live long lives despite concentration camps

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>"Sunday was Holocaust Remembrance Day, causing me to think about an assertion I heard from an elementary school teacher. She said that even those who survived the Holocaust were so debilitated that the rest of their lives would be short. As with many things I learned in elementary school, the reality is more complicated, and my 10-year-old self would be glad to know that my teacher was probably more wrong than right."

>Living through a horrendous event, like confinement in a concentration camp or prisoner-of-war camp, does create health problems serious enough to shorten most people’s lives. But those who survive also seem to have other characteristics — perhaps a stronger immune system and a more optimistic outlook than the general population — that tend to make people live longer. New research suggests that such resilience can often overcome scarring.

>The surprising part is that despite being in worse health, the Holocaust survivors lived 7.1 years longer — their average age at death was 85 years, compared to 78 among the control group. Those differences persist even after adjusting for socioeconomic status (Holocaust survivors tend to be poorer than their contemporaries), sex and other factors.

>What’s the conclusion, beyond answering a question that has stuck with me for four decades? First and most importantly, it’s not that a traumatic time is anything but hideous. It’s instead that those surviving such an event may be sturdier than others, and by so much that it more than offsets the additional ailments they wind up with. In other words, survivors can wind up living longer than average, but they would presumably have lived even longer in the absence of their gruesome experiences. Second, the effects of extreme events may be passed on to future generations: Whatever the effect on survivors, the Civil War evidence suggests their children may wind up paying a price.

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timesofisrael.com/at-this-holocaust-museum-you-can-speak-with-holograms-of-survivors/
holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2017/05/rebutting-twitter-denial-most-popular.html
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Trauma hardens you. I think humans die at around 80 because we lose the will to live. But if you survived annihilation then your will is stronger. Like dolphins, dolphins have the ability to stop breathing and kill them selves. So you live for something or you decide you dont want to watch tv anymore at the old folks home and die in your sleep.

There will be holocaust "survivors" for the next 20 years.

Make that 30 maybe 40. Holocaust survivors will outlive ww2 vets by decades.

Survivorship bias, those with weak will or substandard health perished in the camps before the allies defeated the germans

What trauma? The swimming pool was closed? Or they didn't get the part in thr hanukka theatre play they wanted?

>give “holocaust survivors millions of free money”
>be amazed their are more of them every year and they never die

Other than the obvious fact that the holohoax didn't happen, and the camps were humane facilities nowhere near as bad as kikes claim (until typhus and starvation took hold at the end of the war), this is just en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

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I am pretty sure at this point there shouldn't really be any survivors any longer. But I agree with you, I am willing to bet 20 to 30 years from now I'll still be hearing from "survivors". They're gonna have to give up the gig at some point.

Proof that fasting increases lifespan

This is interesting considernig the study where they said stress causes a shortening of telomeres. Its almost like they have no signs of it happening. hmmm.

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Another

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This.

Never forget the 6 billion jews

Fifty years from now you'll still hear about holocaust survivors.

That's what I love about these Holocaust survivors - I get older, they stay the same age.

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>Holocaust survivors tend to be poorer than their contemporaries
Fucking unbelievable, the shamelessness of their lies.
Anybody remember that story where the Jewess blamed Dr Mengele for her sister dying of cancer 70 years later when she was in her 80's?

They will clone them when the last one dies. Never forget goyim.

Isn't there someone claiming to be 130 years old that survived the holohoax?

When humans die at 125 because of hayflick?

You only hear about the extremely old ones nowadays because the rest is dead.

Yep, fraud is rampant e.g. upi.com/Holocaust-fund-defrauded/47121289393219/

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They've got as close to that as they can by creating interactive holographic projections of "survivors". Anything to keep the racket going.

timesofisrael.com/at-this-holocaust-museum-you-can-speak-with-holograms-of-survivors/

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fagooooo

Woulf be funny if as they become more and more desperate for survivors the bar is lowered and it becomes truly amazing how good being holocausted was for longevity.

I used to do it all the time when I saw a Jew by a fountain. They would start doing it, then I would go to the second floor with my ill gotten gains and dump it all on them.

The Germans were practicing Eugenics and produced Uberjuden as a result.

>the effects of extreme events may be passed on to future generations
What's the betting OUR children wind up "paying a price"?

>survivors of something that ended 74 years ago
Oy vey I remember how bad those evil nazis treated us infants and toddlers. Luckily they decided to allocate resources to our survival instead of throwing us in ovens like they did all the healthy adults capable of being productive via slave labor.

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>timesofisrael.com/at-this-holocaust-museum-you-can-speak-with-holograms-of-survivors/
>technology developed by the SHOAH foundation
lul

kikes are vampires they control patents and are connected to a bend off the west coast of britain that runs genetically through the Mediterranean into isreal

The ones forced to self masturbate and weren’t allowed access to the machine.

Based leaf

holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2017/05/rebutting-twitter-denial-most-popular.html

number seven on the list

you are so predictably boringly debunked shit at this

holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2017/05/rebutting-twitter-denial-most-popular.html

again the boring debunked shit posting - why do you bother with this stuff

Lol fag

well done.. You jst referenced a book from 2004 by a non jew aho also said the children escaped the camp twice, the second time they were rescued by wolves who fed them adn kept them safe until the end of the war.

yes you referenced a steaming pile of shit by a gentile.

not prt of the holocaust history in any way at all. Only ever talked about by chronic wankers on Pol.

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how boringly predictable of you

yes it is laughable how stale and predictable and utterly boring their retarded arguments are.

Low calorie diets prolong life

what about that guy who survived six gassings

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I must admit I am mightily impressed by your ability to type so coherently at the same working a shaft and balls. But then again, I check the flag and it all makes sense.

It's just a Jew, doesn't matter what the flag is. They are the same scum no matter where they are.

what about moshe peer, user? was he really gassed six times?

he was talking bullshit.

so what? Hundreds of thousands of survivors, many second adn third hand accounts of things - of course you are going to get bullshit stories.

I know a guy who was in Florida on 9/11 but had visited the twin towers the week before on business - all the people in the office were killed. within a few weeks his story became that he was there at an early morning meeting that day and had left the building when the first plane went in - that he would have died if he had been fifteen minutes later.

he used to get laid a lot with that bullshit.

does that mean 9/11 didn't happen? nope. it just means he is a scumbag who got laid a lot...

How many nations that have kicked them out can’t be wrong.

I heard fasting increases lifespan

ITT people projecting adn making ad hominem arguments because they have no other argument

so he lied? about the shoah? like all the other jews?

>argue with me, goy! I need the validation!

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>50 years
If we are lucky. They are going to ride this gravy train until the end of time or until the end of them.

a very good explanation

The Holocoaster were a great experience.

No not a blog spot. Let's get down to brass tacks here. Why is the lolocaust the only genocide turned into a billion dollar business? What did they do to turn the germans against them? I mean look at what the refugees are doing and still no gassings. Why should we care that it happened? Last but not least why are they dead aet on making it happen again?

Who’s arguing? I’m simply mocking your flaming French ass.

ahahaha 5 star post

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maybe the real holocaust was the friends we made along the way.

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LOL

Hahaha

The human mind is probably made for some level of trauma.
After all 99% of human history were rather traumatic for most people.
I suppose a lot of depressions, drug use, etc. wouldn't happen if people had something worth fight for.
Even PTSD happens when people leave the traumatizing place.
Shellshock otoh seems to be too much trauma...

then why almost all ww2 vets are dead then?

Your country would literally be better off today had Hitler won.

Must kill you inside.

Pool's closed due to typhus, oy gevalt

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because the gov't wont pay you reparations just for being a vet

It's not his country, Jews don't have a country.

Yo what's up Frenchie. I haven't seen you shill in a while. You ever get to the bottom of Manjdanek, fire blocks, mass burial sites, furnace limits and repairs?

Ill brush up your mind on Majdanek because you couldn't give me an answer last time.

Majdanek is obviously the death camp that was known for gas chambers that looked like showers. The gas chambers had windows as well. This camp claimed that 1.5-2million were murdered here for about 10-30 years after the war. Then the story didn't hold water so they had to keep decreasing the death toll. Now it's currently at 75,000. How does one go from 1.5 million to 75,000 if they weren't lying about something?
Also since the Holocaust evidence is all based on anecdotal evidence why do you cherry pick the survivors stories to fit the narrative. I can give you a link to a video that interviews many survivors from majdanek all claiming whenever they went into the gas chamber they came out alive only getting a disinfectant shower because of the typhus epidemic. So why are there stories not heard and only the ones that fit the narrative are given the spotlight?
Also how much do you get paid for this?

Maybe veterans of Iraq should get reparations from Israel

See

Let's see that video.

Survival of the fittest. Any humans who lived through malnutrition and hunger and didn't die, most likely will live long. Also, there was study about Siege of Leningrad survivors, and they found some "survival gene" in their DNA.

Yes they do. It's called hell and it suits them well.

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It will just be their kids “living through” all the hard stories their parents told them. “On his death bed he told me about the great masterbation machines that killed his whole family, it was only by shoving a dildo up his ass and shitting everywhere that he was able to escape”

The youngest would be late 70s.

I would like that link

Based and truthpilled

In the year 2356: "Oy vey, I survived the horrible shoah".

The eternal Jew - it never ends.

Evolved in 10% of a generation. Truly amazing the Jews

the reason for the Kike long life is because they have created relatively easy life for themselves collecting money from other people, kiking them, and then laughter at they're victims. Laughter at goys is perhaps their best medicine insofar as laughter actually is a good medicine. These kikes who ruin everyone else's life is thoughtless, cruel, and mean. . . not to mention the role of their pet niggers against whites.

WW2 veterans were at least 17 in 1945 Holocaust survivors were also younger.

youtu.be/zFtFTyBBQEo
This video gets taken down a lot and probably will be censored soon. Also notice how these Jews already had rumors going around the camp about gas chambers and gassing inmates

Here

I heard about a museum in Terre Haute Indiana where they're going to make a hologram of a survivor.
It'll be programmed with hundreds of stock responses to questions. So kids can ask it questions and it will respond.
So they'll get to benefit from the exposure to Holocaust survivors for ever and ever and ever and ever.

if you're a jew who lives long enough you can just say you're a survivor because there's no one around to check your story & everyone else is too scared to call you out.

no. most of them told the truth. as wella s the guards, the engineers who built the ovens adn the gas chambers, the peopel who supplied the gas, the SS commanders adn the others who witnessed it, the doctor who wrote his diary, the people who photographed it.

you know the heap of evidence deniers are ignoring.

Test

Glad you agree that gas chambers never existed on the scale the kikes claim, and that ovens we only used infrequently to burn dead bodies including goys suffering from typhus from lice. The jews should show some shame monetizing the whole affair. But it's their nature.

that's truly the funniest part of it all, lmao.

Setting aside that there was no "Holocaust" in the sense of a deliberate extermination campaign, there was extreme hardship in the concentration camps (prison, work, relocation camps) toward the end of the war. A prisoner has only the food given him by his keeper and can't scrounge for more, he must live in barracks exposed to whatever contagious illnesses anyone else in those barracks are suffering, he may not find warmer clothes, gather materials to plug drafts in his home, or gather fuel.

Let's not go overboard in debunking the Holocaust to the point of denying things plainly in evidence. I believe the Germans were merely using the prisoners for forced labor, and relocating them for resettlement in a designated region of Poland, but they definitely had prisoners, and when they couldn't supply those prisoners due to wartime shortages and destruction of their transporation infrastructure, they suffered terribly. American soldiers found people nearly starved to death in the camps.

This is evidence that there was no program of extermination. This pattern of long life expectancy for survivors shows a selection bias. They weren't being indiscriminately killed off in cartoonishly sadistic murder factories, they were dying from the harsh conditions. Mostly, those who had started in robust health survived. Those with fragile health, with special dietary needs, with inefficient metabolisms, with weak immune systems, all of the things that would be good predictors of a shorter lifespan, died when things got bad in the camps. The survivors who bounced back to good health naturally lived long lives.

>Your country would literally be better off today had Hitler won.
The French generally weren't happy about it when the Allies invaded France. They has surrendered to avoid another war in their territory, and were being treated well by the Germans. Now they had war on their own soil, the very thing they had accepted national humiliation to avoid.

They'll never show shame. They gained control of the world after this incident because of the victim mentality. They already had grip before WW1 with the monetary system in countries and turning it into fiat currency. But the Holocaust put them on a level where they can take advantage of people's guilt and empathy where if anybody dares goes against them they are labeled a Nazi or similar to hitler

They will pretend to have uploaded some of them. Among the first credibly alleged human SIMs will be 'holocaust survivors'. They may claim to have preserved brains (eg. cryo or polymerization) which are forming the basis of these, but that will be a half-truth at best. In reality these will be 'social reconstructions' straight out of Black Mirror - possibly genuine self-awareness, but with 'memories' and 'personalities' hand-crafted for them based on the targets given testimony, psychobabble personality typing tests performed while they were alive, etc., rather than from whatever substrate may remain.

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Fasting extends your life

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Those death camps sure had a lot of survivors

you mean the guards, engineers, suppliers, and SS commanders who were tried in the kangaroo court known as the Nuremberg Trials? The same trials where torture was used to coerce confessions, where any fantasy was recorded as truth because winners write the history books?

Fuck off kike, the holohoax in its entirety is just that, a fabrication.

Holocaust survivor could be anyone who was in Germany in 1933-1945 (even for a day) and "survived" - official definition.

Came here to say this.
In effect, the eugenics programme worked: the camps culled the weak, and those who survived were the genetic masterrace.

Wait until it becomes "you traumatized my ancestors goy now pay up" (((SCIENTIFICALLY))).

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Kek. Wouldn't surprise me.

Also gives a nice perpetual excuse to the blacks.