Standard American Gun Nut Argument:

>Okay, before you can use your right to speak freely without persecution from the government, you need a permit.
Before you can deny the state incriminating evidence, you need week long class.
Before you can deny soldiers quarter during peacetime, you need an 8 hour class and a 2 year license, that costs $500

We unironically already do this. It's called high school civics class. And yes it's paid for, just by public funding. Teach all kids how to safely handle guns in school just like you teach them about the other parts of the constitution.

The rights are inaliable. The constitution does not grant those rights.
You're an idiot.

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*one of the brainlets

Here, I'll help you out with correcting your own native language. Free of charge.

Travel is, but the mode is not guaranteed.
Everywhere is in walking distance...if you have the time.

Nope. Traveling is a privilege, particularly when crossing borders between sovereign nations/states. Do you even understand what the word “right” means?

Now, if you’d like to argue that you have an inalienable right to go anywhere you want and get free shit from anyone you can force to serve you by threat of violence, then go ahead and craft your own constitution. Run it up the flag pole... see who salutes.

I am okay with basic firearm education in schools.

And probably in Krautland this is true, however American Schools arent designed to help students get ahead in life, but instead do well on Standardized Tests, and then join the workforce as mindless debt drones.

realtruth.biz/driving/supremecourt.htm

U.S. COURT DECISIONS CONFIRM "DRIVING A MOTOR VEHICLE" IS A
CITIZENS RIGHT AND NOT A GOVERNMENT GRANTED PRIVILEGE.

Appealing to authority, again

All power stems from the barrel of a gun.

I actually own guns

Ahem... the constitution IS the logical argument. Have you actually READ it? It’s not just a bunch of pretty words, it’s a framework for how people are to live in peac, harmony and prosperity. Tell me the logic of taking from the productive to give to the worthless and when, where and how THAT has ever been shown to work. You can’t, because that is not logical, that is just people who want something for nothing claiming moral superiority for doing what “feels right”.

Wash your dick

You clearly have no fucking idea how our republic works. The constitution is literally our god, faggots that suggest otherwise are literal heretics. There IS a valid way to enact the gun control that leftists want, and it's through a constitutional amendment. EVERY other attempt at gun control is an attempt at subverting the constitution, which is about as treasonous as you can get.

A drivers License is for driving a car, not owning one. A drivers license is equivalent to a concealed carry permit. Both allow use in the public space.

You CAN own a car without a drivers license. You just can't drive it on public streets.

Unlike you I have a dick to wash.

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Ok..so a troll then?
It's not appealing to authority to ask if LIFE is worth protecting. Fucking moron.

>Falls for the grammar bait and ignores his subject.
Everytime.
Look I know you Germans are programmed to be autistic through your culture, I know because it did he same to me, but you need to focus on the actual subject at hand instead of acting like Reddit.
You OP is a shitty argument because you are trying to apply driving a vehicle to gun ownership. One of these is protected by our federal laws for the individual to protect himself, others, or the country he loves.

You need a better understanding of the time period of which are Constitution and Bill of Rights was written. Also that Germans weren't considered white at the time.

No one said anything about socialism/communism. I understand the inclination from a burger though since all of your national political discussions naturally fall into one of two categories and then you start to associate anything that falls into the same category, even though those two things in that category have nothing to do with each other.

INB4 muh communists came for the guns.

>appealing to the source that defines what is and (in some cases) isn't a right
>HURR YOU CAN'T SAY IT'S A RIGHT JUST BECAUSE THE RIGHT-ENUMERATING DOCUMENT SAYS SO
OP is dumbfuck and faggot. sage

Monkeyland:
Extremely strict gun laws
Highest absolute number of murders in the world.

Switzerland:
Everybody is armed to the teeth.
Nobody gets murdered.

Now parrot your NPC shit somewhere else.

They are actually circumcising the lighter individuals.

I've always heard guns should be treated like cars.
Of course that is worse since you don't get your license taken away for drinking, you can buy a car with little info, and you can always get your car back easily if it's taken impounded or whatever.
Car insurance has also been compared to health insurance, no one uses car insurance to get an oil change, why do they use health insurance for a cough?

I'm saying it's more likely for your fucked up son to steal your gun and play fetch with dog with it than it is that for you to effectively use it in self defense.

He's a fucking german. His people wont exist in 100 years.

Not true. You can drive it on public roads without. No one has EVER been pulled over and ONLY gotten a driving without a license charge.
Road blocks too. You do not have to produce license registration none of that.
Unless...You drive a commercial vehicle. Then you can be pulled over without cause. You need a license then.
You should get your vehicle registered tho. That money goes to roads maintanence.

>the pen is mightier than the sword

((((((((((((((((((((((((netflix)))))))))))))
comedy show
>i don't like guns
1996 aussie massacre: SAME YEAR AS BRITISH
BOTH FALSE FLAGS
GRABBED THE FUCKING GUNS
CAN YOU MANAGE

Everyone in Nazigoldland has training with their guns. Kind of my point.

They are bith rights retard

how is this comedy?
bill nye show was, what?
people trying to use comedy, though it wasn't called comedy, to push lies
this is "comedy" to push politics
all the shows are "comedy" to push politics
jesus christ wake up
why don't people see this and go "ah nah fuck off"

Your people already don't exist

>aim jim jeffreyyys and i talk like a fucking cuaaauunt so you think i'm a real good sort of bloke but really i'm a fucking kike-cock-sucking baaaahrstard

proof: when constitution was written up
CARS DIDN'T FUCKING EXIST ANYWAY

Self defense is the single worst primary argument for 2A.

2A exists as a guarantee that the populace will have the ability to kill the government. The government must give the populace the means to kill it.

All other benefits are secondary. All arguments focusing on hunting, self defense, or otherwise are meaningless and a diversion from the true intention of the 2A.

You're just trolling kid. Admit it.

article 1: all krauts should die

>Stop appealing to authority!
>Appeals to an even more nebulous 'muh fee fees', or some other bullshit 'ethics' nonsense.

Actually..no it's not. Not even close. Firearms are used nearly a million times in defense in the U.S. Every year. 15 or so kids are killed by playing with them. And only 30k total are killed every year. Mostly nigs killing nigs. But it also includes suicides and JH.
So again...I reiterate. Youre a complete moron.

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Bought my first car at 14.....Started driving at 15. Answered 10 multiple choice questions to get my license. Love it...

Me: This amendment in your constitution is outdated and impractical and should be updated to fit with modernity

You: You can't change what's written down because it's written down.

You realize you don't need a license to own a car, right? The license just lets you drive on public thoroughfares, as long as you never leave your own property there are no rules about your car. I could have no license, no insurance, and 15 DUIs, and if I wanted to drive a stock-car around my own land, none of the laws of God or man can stop me.

The equivalent to a driver's license would be a shooter's license. Not a concealed carry permit, but a license allowing you to discharge your gun in public where you see fit. If you want such a license to be available, hell, I'll get one. I sometimes see seagulls that piss me off that could use some blasting.

>hey why are you taking away my freedom?
>appeal to authority

Maybe if they did we'd have a fucking stupid amendment about car rights too.

the most evil thing i've heard is that CRIMINALS should not be shot
that INNOCENT PEOPLE should risk death in order to NOT HARM CRIMINALS
this is the greatest evil I've heard and I've heard it in 911 calls where they say don't shoot them as "it's not worth killing someone over"
I said on here, can we look at 911 calls where the property owner called 911 but was killed by the intruders
and see how they were dissuaded and told not to defend themselves
and then they died
WE NEED TO DO THIS
THE EVIDENCE IS THERE
YOU LAZY UNTHINKING GODDAMN NIGGERS

While abundance of guns has a lot to do with that. Switzerland is a VERY homogeneous ethnostate. Brazil is basically multiculturalism on steroids.

You country could easily be 1st world, with as many natural resources as you have, if you'd just disappear all the darkies.

>Your people already don't exist
There's literally Muslim cum trapped in your mustache, Hanz.

Germans pretending that they want to protect lives or freedom is fucking hilarious. You're the example everyone uses as the exact opposite of both.

article 2: are all krauts dead yet? if not see article 1:

A car is a means of travel. Travel is a right within the USA.

What legitimate non emotionally based argument do you have that it should be changed?

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>Protecting yourself is outdated.
Never did I say it can't be changed but we should update it to guarantee the right carry in every state.

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See. And to think everyone in this thread is getting this angry about asking them to go through this processes to own a gun.

>me: it's written down because I want to

Travelling on private property is a right. You can drive on the 40 back acres without a license or registration.

Travelling on public roads is a privilege. You must pay in and be a registered driver in good standing to use our public infrastructure.

Protecting your life is a right. There is no situation in which a person can be deprived of their rights without due process.

Transitioning the protection of your own life and property to a privilege is the unequivocal mark of an authoritarian police state.

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Come and take it, asshole

Allowing zoomers on SRIs access to firearms is probably outdated.

>quotation marks
go back to where you came from, newfag nigger

The Constitution is the supreme law of the land. If we are under no obligation to obey that law, why would we be under any obligation to obey gun control laws?

You can change an amendment stupid

It's harder than that to get a firearm dumbass.
You need money
You MUST have an I'D
You MUST be put through a background check
And you MUST wait several days.
To buy a car...you just need money. That's it.

Jim Jefferies is an obnoxious cunt, surprised he hasn't been punched on stage in America, like he was here.

You're right.
But that strawman fallacy was complete bullshit.
I can do this too:
BAN ALL GUNZ BECAUSE ALL GUN OWNERS ARE CERTIFIED MURDERERS. I PROJECT MY MURDER FANTASIES ONTO OTHER PEOPLE AS AN EXCUSE TO DISARM THEM. OH, A SHOOTING HAPPENED BECAUSE PSYCHOPATHS EXIST? TIME TO EXPLOIT IT FOR POLITICAL GAIN! THE AR15 FIRES 6 GORILLION BULLETS PER SECOND GOY

>watching this cuck

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You cannot provide a valid reason as to why that should be done, and if it were attempted there would be civil war with millions of lives lost. Is that really worth it troll?

The second is short, sweet and simple. No changing needed.
Youre just jelly you can't buy a working a tank, while we can.
Fuck off.

According to Article V of the Constitution, which is a law. So that's an appeal to authority, my kraut friend.

>"Guns should be like a driver's license. There should be some standards for being able to own a firearm."

Its called a "stepping stone." Just look at the now Colorado Gun Control Bill:

>Only allowed to own 20 rounds of ammunition a month
>Not allowed to have a rifle that carries more than 10 rounds
>No magazines allowed that holds for than 10 rounds
>Revolvers that hold more than 5 rounds will have to confiscated

This is the problem with so called "gun control advocates". Once you allow the governemnt/state involved in the guns you'e allowed to own, they will keep chipping away bit by bit.

Because unlike you, we have a solid grasp on how bullshit like that would be abused. For instance: Machine guns are not banned, they never have been. What they did, was basically require any machine gun to be stamped as legal to own, and then refused to stamp anything made after the law was in place. The process is theoretically there to allow new machine guns, but it's actively ignored.

The other fun example of how any gun related laws instantly get corrupted by (((tricks))), is that people convicted of felonies at the federal level actually have a way to restore all of their rights. Basically a "Convince us you're ready to completely rejoin society" type application, a good idea, one that is useless when congress habitually refuses any funding for the process, so any application is stuck in limbo where it will NEVER be addressed.

It's way easier to defend your rights when it's enshrined in simple language like the 2nd amendment.

>But the zoomers!
Why blame them when it was their parents, society, and the system that has failed them? It's people like you that are causing the issues we deal with now as you switched over to fear tactics like a filthy journalist.

>freedom is outdated

mohammedan detected

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First; it's 12,000 wpm, second; amendment.

Stupid fucking europeans. Why are they so concerned with what we do? Our entire existence was created to get away from that shitty continent. Otherwise we'd still be snail mailing on parchment by whale blubber light.

Yeah fuck constitutions and the rule of law in general, lefty feels trump that bs

Ian is Jow Forums, he's not Jow Forums

Jow Forums likes to think the two are the same, but they aren't.

In this day people would just shoot at the idea of a national ID registry for firearms if it tried to block their path

Non-americans literally can't comprehend

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The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

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Doesn't excuse him from being labeled non-human, like any other leftist that's okay with Boer genocide.

the state consists of individuals who pursue their interests and historically, ALWAYS corrupted into authoritarian tyranny

the more powerful the state grows, the stronger the population needs to be since it is the opposition to the ruling class. you are demanding to enslave the citizens more and more with spying, hate speech laws, and so on - at this point you are attempting to take the citizens means to defend their families and completely rely on the state

we’ve had this in your endless commie utopias - it doesn’t work and you corrupt predators deserve the rope

>take a spoon
>stick it in your ass
>fat scoop of mudshit
>*gobblegobble*
Fuck yourself with a barbed wire baseball bat.

The Bill of Rights are RIGHTS not privileges you dipshit.
Driving a car is a privilege thus why you need a license to operate.

I think the saddest part, is that with technology the way it is, an invulnerable surveillance state is probably the end game if the left actually wins the culture war. Historically, they've taken power, fucked everything up, and then swung from lamp posts while society is rebuilt. Pretty sure if things get fucked up again, it's going to be 1984 permanently.

>American: it is the right of every citizen of my country to keep and bear arms, I have the evidence to prove it
>German: my country doesn't have guns so yours shouldn't either

a driver's licence is a licence to since on public roads, you don't need a licence to drive on private property you fucking retard

niggers /thread

Go cry at the holocaust museum kraut.

what they're saying is that it's written in the constitution.
and the constitution is the most powerful legal document in the union,

>Guns should be like a driver's license. There should be some standards for being able to own a firearm."
There is. Every state has age limits, background checks and you can lose the right to own a gun based on mental illness or criminal history.

Are we done?

Spoken like someone who's never been up against a much stronger threat. Why do you hate women user? Why can't I defend myself?

Lol keep your opinions eurofag. Lol.

The more control you ask for the more we stock up.

Op has been completely btfo and has ran away like the dumb little bitch he is.