Venezuela General /vg/ - Stop Interfering In Other Countries Edition

ESSENTIAL VIEWING:

>Venezuela Propaganda Debunked - People Are Against Coup. Also Trump explains his globalist agenda - support rebels and terrorists in return for 50% of their oil
youtube.com/watch?v=VMplqEpfGhs

>"U.S. Plot In Venezuela FAILING" Says Caracas Reporter
youtube.com/watch?v=98pBLXe7Bmk

>Ron Paul interview - "Defying American Values"
youtube.com/watch?v=UCESJ5JcJXc

>Ron Paul - Trump's Venezuela Fiasco "convicted criminal Elliott Abrams should be disqualified from holding public office"
youtube.com/watch?v=s4tYEKsa8lA

>Ron Paul - Bolton: "We're Taking Venezuela's Oil"..."Pompeo, Bolton and Abrams are the Pirates of the Caribbean"
youtube.com/watch?v=WTE0SQA2jU8

>Venezuela Crisis: U.S. Has Painted Itself Into Corner? (South Front)
youtube.com/watch?v=Yn5LdwBbm1w

>"US intervention will lead to another Vietnam" - Maduro
youtube.com/watch?v=2JBRte5lalw

>Bank of England 'under the thumb of US'
youtube.com/watch?v=r80hoaiDrME

>How can crisis in Venezuela be resolved?
youtube.com/watch?v=gpllRHwWZIw

>Venezuela: Regime Change
youtube.com/watch?v=vNQln_iP0Gw

>U.S. Hypocrisy on Venezuela
youtube.com/watch?v=79zL49JPly4

>Meddle. Bully. Overthrow
youtube.com/watch?v=WbuLYqQeduA

>John Oliver's misleading episode on Venezuela is DEBUNKED
youtube.com/watch?v=_fV-C1Ag5sI

>The truth on Venezuela
youtube.com/watch?v=lMeli0BA3UA

>Bernie's Venezuela Tweet - Poor grasp of international affairs
youtube.com/watch?v=6chIn6JRjBA

>musical interlude
EL PRESIDENT - Drugstore feat Thom Yorke
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LATEST DEVS:
>Opposition protests scheduled for today
>Mourão says Venezuelan Army will eventually support Guaido
>Director of Strategic Planning in Air Force recognizes Guaido as president
>John Bolton says that military intervention is not imminent in Venezuela
>UN spox for SecGen: recognizing governments is a matter for member states and authority in Venezuela lies with elected president Maduro
>Guaidó rejected call from Mexico and Uruguay for dialogue
>African Union (55 countries) recognize Maduro
>Twitter took down 2,000 accounts located in #Venezuela engaged in a "state-backed disinformation & influence campaign"
>Assassination attempt on Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro was foiled
>Venezuela halt sales of gold
>Italy is neutral. against coup
>Uruguay and Mexico press for mediation
>EU Parliament recognises Juan Guaidó as the only President of Venezuela
>U.S. sanctions Nicaragua’s petroleum company
>Lima Group opposes military intervention in Venezuela
>Trump makes first phonne call to Guaido, pledges full backing & humanitarian aid
>More than 45 killed, over 700 arrestts made since Jan 21 - NGOs
>Maduro announces mobilization of 50,000 new troops to cities, neighborhoods, & villages across the country.
>Pompeo gives control of Venezuela assets in US banks to Guaido
>Russian not considering military or financial support for Venezuelan Maduro
>"5,000 troops to Colombia," was written on @AmbJohnBolton notepad
>US sanctions Venezuela state oil firm
>Venezuela devalues currency to align it with black market
>Graham says Trump is “really hawkish” on Venezuela
>Israel recognizes Juan Guaido as Venezuela leader
>Venezuelan security forces offered amnesty if they defect to opposition
>WSJ: Pence called Guaido night before 23Jan to ask him to go full coup
>Bank of England, lobbied by US, wants to steer 1.2bi of Vzla assets to Guaido.

This dude predicted this months ago.

youtube.com/watch?v=2N5kNU6akNk

>Why Russia and Iran Support A Dictator To Help Them Circumvent Sanctions And Have Military Bases On The United States' Hemisphere! And Why You Should Too!

This is embarrassing, Vlad.

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>second musical interlude
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REMINDER THAT VENEZUELA IS A SOCIAL-REFORMIST MIXED ECONOMY WITH LARGE PARTS IN PRIVATE HANDS. "GOMMUNISM" IS JUST A RED HERRING.

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BS or not?

>Maduro will be given an ultimatum at 12 pm. If he rejects or no reply, fireworks start

>Maduro is based! Based socialist!
Yikes why are shitskins so cringey?

>Maduro is based! Based socialist!

Who said that?

She said there is proof that Trump imposed the coup. I've been under a rock and I want to see the proofs.

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Something is gonna happen soon. Guaido indicated it would be around 12th of Feb.

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>trump says military is an option
>FUCK TRUMP FOR WANTING WAR
jesus, jumping the gun a little there. Plus their is literally nothing wrong with going to war over oil.

Also how is going to war agains maduro's regime globalist in any way. If we are in it for oil wouldn't that be non-globalist?

>meme flag

Commies get the rope.

>muh regime

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Kike

psy ops 101

They take the retards that followed them in Iraq and want to separate them from the rest of Europe to crush Russia.

I wish EU gov would act harscher and more hardcore against america and east Europe and prepare for all out war against USA.

In space to kill all satellites to defend Greenland and island and take over mediterran form the US not to mention to act swift and brutally against the staging ground England.

The sweetalk is nothing more then a delaying tactic and trump is nothing more then a pawn to say later sorry it was nit us it was him and belving they can and will keep the gains they got.

The EU has to step up there game hardcore like by 10 to put the US in to its place.

I don't even understand how US citizens benefit from these constant were it's ridiculous

It will only drive more migrants north for years to come

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>Twitter took down 2,000 accounts located in #Venezuela engaged in a "state-backed disinformation & influence campaign"

very interesting

>Published on Nov 29, 2018
HOLY FUCK

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Venezuela is not stable. Maduro had 5 years to set the ship straight and fucked it up worse.

SOS Venezuela was trending back in 2013...

>was trending
you need to go back

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this

>>African Union (55 countries) recognize Maduro
Fucking niggers can't help making the wrong choice everytime. Do they even get anything from this?

Dude you can't do shit when Syrians and niggers are fucking all of your Hilgas, faggot kraut

This is what happens when you refuse to follow true socialist values.

I'm certain it will work when we finally give the proletarians power.

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That's some scary shit

Yeaaaah, I don’t like seeing people starve to death.

Fuck off, Vlad. This is a situation where not doing anything does more harm than good

>This is a situation where not doing anything does more harm than good

Who should do something?
More harm than good to who?

>pic related: *furiously rubs hands*

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Hezbollah, Houthis, and Syria support Maduro.
Israel, Bolsonaro (Zionist) , Ivan Duque(zionist) Guatemala's president(zionist), support guaido ( a zionist)
This is ignoring the non-jew related reasons why spreading the reach of corrupt billionaires who spread degeneracy is a bad thing. Not everything is about shekel collection.

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there is nothing inherently wrong with dictatorships newfag

>Military Bases

This is embarrassing, Neocon-boy.

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>the us has a lot of bases
....and?

>Yeaaaah, I don’t like seeing people starve to death.
Fuck you faggot why don't you just go and send billions of dollars to Africa then to make more Africans?
What an NPC thing to say.

Yah nothing wrong with creating the worst refugee crisis in the Americas.

Refugee crisis in Syria left Europe fractured fighting itself against far right populism.

Because we have a limited amount of political capital and we have to invest it in the places that will benefit us the most.

It's not that hard to realize we can't save every country. So let's focus on the ones aiding our enemies and destabilizing the continent.

>Because we have a limited amount of political capital and we have to invest it in the places that will benefit us the most.
But you just said it was because you don't like seeing people starve to death?
Are you a moral fag or not? You're being confusing.

I think just leaving everyone else alone and letting them all fight their own battles would benefit you the most to be honest. Just stick a big wall around your muttland and stop fucking with other peoples' shit. It should have happened years ago back when you were 90%. But at least this way you can stay 56% and not drop down to 20% like you're heading towards.

Your government IS your countries enemy you fool

>Unusual military activity American and Colombian in Cucuta, Colombia.

> Interestingly enough, Tachira governor (VZLA) which borders with Cucuta switcher from Chavizmo to opposition

Sources soon (phone posting)

>Army Defectors, Russian Mercs And Disappearing Gold? (South Front)
youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=qs_9eHeHPJM

Wew

Makes sense

Venezuela started sending it's gold to Turkey too. America can't have that

Good journalism if only tainted by bias and ideology. It's clear that the US is always going to pursue it's own interests, but that does not negates the fact that Maduro (and Chavez, for that matter) is illegitimate. Even before this elections, the National Assembly was deprived of the constitutional right of calling for a referendum. The reason why the US didn't act before, was because they didn't see any profit, sure, but it is irrelevant to the fundamental issue that Venezuela experiences. Sanctions did not brought Venezuela to it's current shape and any economist worth its salt could tell you this. It was an issue before Chavez but only aggravated by Socialism and 20 years of a regime.

>democracy
>mattering
bluepilled

Even speaking for the US standpoint it's been handled rather smoothly. Much better than Russia or China approach to things historically.

The one thing we must always ask is who are the bad guys? We have reached a point where virtually every country in our continent rejects Maduro, even to the point of collaboration with the US, which has always been a touchy topic in the Americas. This isn't normal and whether people like it or not, big papa USA has to intervene.

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Extending the scope of the Monroe Doctrine to include the entire planet is grossly overstepping our boundaries, so complaining about other countries entering our original sphere of influence is hypocrisy of the highest order.

fuck the jews and fuck the US

and ??? why you mad that RUSSIA has bases ?? you have as well so shut the fuck up

Hardly anyone showed up to Maduro's rally.

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>Spain planning to provide humanitarian aid once the channel opens.

The US does not "have" to intervene. It wants to.

It was until the US sanctions destroyed the economy and now the state is completely dependent on oil. Good news is that the Saudi pumps are probably drying out and the oil prices are rising again.

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>SOS Venezuela

That's literally a CIA/Soros op.

>Trump literally appointed a convicted war criminal neocon Jew to oversee the "transition" in Venezuela

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From "the special comission of Humanitary Aid" we communicate our gratitude for the support of the President of Colombia, Ivan Duque, this weekend will witness the start of the first of three shipments of aid to Venezuela from a centre of support located in Cucutá, Colombia.

This first shipment will leave the centre with medicine, surgical material and nutritional supplements to supply the first stage of the complex humanitary mission targeted at those who are between life and death.

Furthermore, we have achieved that at least two shipments will be sent from Brazil from a centre yet to be announced, those efforts will generate concrete results in aiding the Venezuelan people.

The process of cooperation between distinct governments and multilateral bodies have been strenghtened by the hard work of President Juan Guaidó, the National Assembly of Venezuela, which alongside NGOs, Churches, and the organized civil society articulate and coordinate the delivery of the humanitarian aid.

From this Comission we express our call for the National Bolivarian Armed Forces to put itself on the side of the Venezuelan people and allow the arrival of the humanitarian aid to Venezuelanas, thus obbeying our Constitution.

Federal Legislative Palace, National Assembly, Caracas, Venezuela.

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Hey fellas, I'm covering the developing situation on my telegram channel, feel free to get updates on there.

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Also I'm pretty Blackpilled about the crisis. I don't think Venezuela can improve without their whites that left. Also the opposition is socialist. The only difference is that the Cubans are being fucked with here, I don't think the US truly has illusions that it can improve Venezuela.

kill yourself, Cuban "intervention" is nothing like American intervention. And Venezuela was doing as well as Chile in the 60's economically.

Cuba is literally just a poor country that barely survived the collapse of the Soviet Union. They send doctors to work for cheap in exchange of Venezuelan aid.

Their support for the South African independence movements was bad in the long run, but whatever. All the other interventions, nearly all in Latin America were aiding peasant led revolutions or democratically elected governments. They weren't for stealing resources to funnel them to local and international oligarchies like the US.
>inb4 peasants revolting because they were semi enslaved on banana plantations is somehow a bad thing for anyone except banana plantation owners

White immigration and Perez-Jimenez gave them the magic boost they needed to become the first or second most prosperous nation in Latin America. They flew too close to the sun, that high standard of living created too many parasites and then the whites left as things got worse and now it's a nation of mestizos and mullatos unable to maintain their former standard of living. This is a common occurrence, a Latin American country does really well, becomes socialist because prosperity breeds leftists and then it turns into a shit hole. This is the faustian cycle, just accelerated because of non-whites.

US citizens don't.
Monied interests do.

Convincing the sheeple that they somehow 'need' these non stop wars is the job of politicians and the media and etc.

The most useful idiots of all are the people who say 'lol fuck le commies get that oil based trump :DDD'.

>thread of meme flags
>pro-violent socialist regime
>inbred Russian and Chinese trolls think we care about their subversive shit

Sorry, if you wanna hunt you've gotta learn to run with the big dogs. They don't pay you enough rubles for this shit.

Maybe worry more about how 1/4th of your country has to shit outdoors, Vladimir.

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Right except 43% of Venezuela is still European and most were there long before immigration. That is also ignoring there hasn't been any strong demographic shift up until after Chavez, Venezuela has been relatively stable for much longer. Venezuela has been ruled intermittently by mestizos and whites for decades, not everything is a racial issue.

Millions of people have left Venezuela, they did lose their bright minds. Politics is downstream from biology, this is why a nation reflects it's demographics.

This.

>Burger flag
>Supporting a violent neocon regime
>Being an unironic globalist

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Yes, millions have left it after 1999 and most of them after 2012. Yet you have other socialist countries like Cuba which are white lead and still poor, or countries undergoing a racial political transition like Bolivia which have a booming economy. Not to mention how countries like china and japan went from poorer than most latin american countries to far richer. Politics has been more influential than demographic transition simply because demographic transitions don't happen as often.Again, not everything is about race.

>Not being a globalist if you live in the West.

Newsflash, if it's not you it'll be another country (China, Russia, or France) buying their natural resources for pennies on the dollar. I'm a globalist because I know it's what it takes to live a comfortable first world western lifestyle. A hell of a lot of Americans would've been way more for the Iraq War if we took all their oil, instead we tried "nation-building" and look how that went, a year later setting up a govt the oil went to French, Italians, and Chinese oil companies.

At this point I hope Maduro gets the gaddafi treatment to watch /leftypol/ and other socialists seethe. Even better if Bolton is smart and actually does the "CIA meddling" we're always accused of. Just seal the Venezuelan border and lose a few crates of AKs and TOW missiles. Or better, get the Colombians and Brazilians to regime change for us.

>. I'm a globalist because I know it's what it takes to live a comfortable first world western lifestyle.

How did 4trillion to the military industrial complex over the last decade of wars help America?
America as a nation is becoming a basketcase. Having a high GDP doesn't mean that people are living good lives when entire regions are neglected.

I'm sick of being told this bullshit from politicians about how if big multinationals make 0.1% more profit then that means we're 'doing better' and so on.

ID: 0 IQ

>Trump is a neocon

Are you legit retarded? Are the Chinese or Russians at least paying you a living wage to post this retarded nonsense?

>Fills his entire cabinet with neocon traitors
>Starts sperging about regime change non stop
>Constantly boomerposting about Iran
>Constant faux news talking points

Explain how he isnt?

Yes, Trump is a neocon. Making minor changes doesn't make him not a neocon. He's certainly not a libertarian or paleocon

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Trump's a unicorn

It is about race, we are biological beings. Cuba also has plenty of niggers. There is an odd mix in Latin America, sometimes populations aren't mixed and sometimes the whites are actually 65% native American. Imo the average genetic fitness of individuals in Latin America has dropped after a period of industrialism and post industrial living standards. Meaning sometimes whites are peripheral whiteoids that are also shitty white trash. However the non-whites still relied on them.

> Bolivia economic boom
After Venezuela they are absolutely fucked. They'll be isolated and contracts with all of Latin America will end.

China and Japan are different, high IQ but low innovation. Without whites introducing Northeast Asians to improved technology originally invented by these northeast Asians they would have stayed as a pre industrial medieval like society. Their high IQ let them grasp the west's Promethean flame but Asians have a tendency to max out everything and now they've grown like a cancer where they can't grow anymore and they've produced great cities filled with suicidal people. They basically couldn't handle the western world. Not that the West is in a better spot. Also the high IQ of Northeast Asians is a product of their rice culture, think of the genetic effects from it.

lmfao you support trump and you don't realize it yet

He's going to stop protecting global trade with the US navy for no benefit, which will cause wars all over the middle east, europe, and asia.

Or they can just pay up so we can reduce taxes across the board even more, or perhaps have a shiny new infrastructure bill or space program.

Because the world is better off under our sphere influence than Russia.

We know this because they've proven they're willing to help another government gas children if it means they can put their planes there.

>sometimes the whites are actually 65% native American.
Venezuela is a mutt country yet the average gene profile is 60% white. So subtracting the mixed people it is easily castizo and criollos.
>genetic fitness has dropped
prove it, I always see amateur geneticists on Jow Forums but never anyone who can show these claims. 10,000+ years of racial seperation ≠ literally less than 200 years of change
And Cuba's government has always been led by criollo and castizo whites and the whites are poor there too.
>After Venezuela they are absolutely fucked. They'll be isolated and contracts with all of Latin America will end.
almost like it has more to do with Americans than indians.
>Without whites introducing Northeast Asians to improved technology originally invented by these northeast Asians they would have stayed as a pre industrial medieval like society.
I'm not talking about Jow Forums alt history I'm talking about the 20th century. China and Japan were shitholes even after getting economic and technological contact from the west, they did not improve until after for many reasons.

>gas children
You're a jew aren't you? Always projecting this weird holocaust gas fetish. This countries government (do not call it our) is the reason both jews, jewish capitalism, and judeo-bourgeoise degeneracy has spread.

anything new? Is it actually happening or is it another LARP?

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A libertarian defending a failed socialist state. You fucking kikes aren't even trying anymore. GTFO this board shill.

_donald

The ones fetishizing gassing children seem to be Assad and Vlad who's helping him out.

It's my country, chief sorry :)

You are falling for literal ZOG false flags. I bet you think Israel is a poor bullied nation too
And you do realize the US literally drone strikes civilians right?

Fug nibbas idk how long ago this was.

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Today its when the humanitarian help it's suposed to be entering

You realize that unlike Assad, my government doesn't deliberately target children right? And we don't spend 8 years denying we even had a drone. Or that the drone was funded by the clinton foundation through Turkey to save the petro dollar, or whatever schizophrenic nonsense Assad apologists love regurgitating.

Commies should be killed.

>You realize that unlike Assad, my government doesn't deliberately target children right?
Why would he do it deliberately? Are you retarded?

Assad is a honest man, Jews (they direct American foreign policy in the Middle East) lie all the time. Listen a podcast about Palestina, Jews don't care about arguments. They're insane lying creatures that don't share Christian or Muslim morals.

>Venezuela is a mutt country yet the average gene profile is 60% white. So subtracting the mixed people it is easily castizo and criollos.

Lol no, these people are not mainly Criollo. Those in it right now are closer to Mexico's mestizos. However I would like to admit one mistake, I meant to say individuals considered white in Latin America (especially Bolivarian nations and central American) are 65% white with native American blood.

> Prove genetic fitness dropped. I will respond to this in a reply to myself.

>Cuba's government has always been led by criollo and castizo whites and the whites are poor there too.

Most Latin American govts are run by whites since they are the people that wanted independence from Spain. However that doesn't mean they're high quality, just relatively better for ruling a nation compared to the non-whites throughout Latam.

>almost like it has more to do with Americans than indians.

The way I look at it, whites tend to onions up Latam govts, mestizos bring the violence and natives bring the poverty. These people aren't going to really advance in the western world desu. Only those who produce it can. I would say there is an intelligence barrier, although Asians are an exception in that regard. But still psychologically different.

>I'm talking about the 20th century. China and Japan were shitholes even after getting economic and technological contact from the west, they did not improve until after for many reasons.

China still mainly is, however they were making great improvements from centuries and once they industrialised and were integrated into the world economy they boomed, or atleast Japan did. China mostly lies.

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"Lynch (2016) elaborates on the human genetic load and afflictions caused by mitigation of fitness effects of mutations.

After evaluating the current status of mutation rates (1.1-1.7 x 10^-8) , which are not constant but rather vary between male race and age and are the highest of all known species, Lynch provides an outlook and a prognosis on how not only omnipresent mutagens inflict major damage to DNA but also the relaxation of selection pressure expressed in a rate of "1% [...] decline in the baseline performance of physical and mental attributes ..." but are measured against the moving mean.

Over the last 4 decades:
- incidences of cancer have increased by 20% [1]
- increase in young cancer patients [2]
- mortality rate dropped by 20%
- cardiac disease mortality rates have decreased by 60%

These circumstances happen in technologically advanced populations and are to be attributed to the lack of natural selection due to societal and medical developments as well as to unhealthy livestyles and reproduction at high age.

In clonclusion, genetic load and mutations are rising as well as self-reinforcing with negative implications for the human genus.

[1] This can partially be attributed to prolonged lifespans since all cancer rates are rising in age
[2] 147 per million in the 1970s to 165 in the 1980s and 193 in the 1990s - "ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16919767

Western medicine in recent centuries allows almost anyone to live and reproduce when they would’ve died otherwise, which is obviously not good for your genepool.

>waaa all our problems are someone else’s fault; The country; The thread
try not being a pussy

He was helping AQI and denied it.
He deliberately released jihadis to mix into the FSA and denied it.
He used Chemical weapons and still denies it.
He claimed to have gotten rid of his chemical weapons and lied about that.
He claims to have brought in Russia to help fight against ISIS but they've only targeted factions of the FSA.

This is there MO. It's always been there MO. Deny, deny, deny.

In 2006 when we were begging them to stop helping jihadists we would show them evidence and the Syrian government would deny it even with the evidence right in their faces.

It's as dishonest as it gets.

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Only ones helping Al-Qaeda and ISIS are the US greatest ally.

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