The John Birch Society

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JBS are radical (((Ayn Rand))) individualist losers.

Hey has anyone here been to a John birch meeting?

truth tellers like EGG got drummed out for kikeoids a shame

oh look, a datamining thread

OP if the JBS still stands uncucked in the way that the video describes - then everyone needs to watch it.

I will explain what it says in a nutshell for those who don't have time:

It establishes that the more sophisticated way to view the world is not "liberal" vs. "conservative" (becuase those definitions and values change over time), but rather "individualism vs collectivism".

It goes on to explain a political philosophy that is very much aligned with the ideologies of Jow Forums. One in which the freedom of individual choice is held high above everything else, but also recognizes the necessity of strategic collectivism to combat communists and other Jewry. It recognizes that truth is more important than freedom even if freedom is the goal.

And this is a Jew.
And this is inaccurate.

>One in which the freedom of individual choice is held high above everything else, but also recognizes the necessity of strategic collectivism to combat communists and other Jewry.
The fundamental problem though is that there is no mechanism to decollectivize after a collectivist threat. This was the problem with Fascism (either its proto form back in Roman times or the in the 1930/40s): the collectivism doesn't revert back to individualism and you end up with an Imperial State that inevitably collapses on itself from belligerent expansion.
New perceived "threats" always emerge and Caesar never hands his dictatorship back to the senate. Next thing you know, you're fighting battles on the other side of the world and sacrificing your own people for God knows what.

So what is the mechanism to decollectivize a collective defense after a threat has been dealt with?

Truth. Once the enemy seeking to undermine our society is fully chased down and defeated, the truth will lead to a multitude of racially homogeneous societies that develop high trust cultures with limited government.

The threat of collectivism will never go away but a decisive victory known to all by an honest organization will ensure a lasting collectivized peace.

uncollectivized*

Are you a boomer?

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He took a bullet for a reason user.

That being said he probably would have ended up kowtowing just like Trump. Neither one of them was exactly atlas material.

Braaaap

No I'm 29.

While I agree that Truth always prevails, the issue is the time and effort it takes for it to re-emerge within a society; which could take generations and apply lots of needless suffering.
You'd need a Truth that is enshrined within a temporary collectivized society so that there is a constant reminder to disassemble when the goal is met. Like a painful reminder while collectivized so that decollectivizing will alleviate that pain.

>Reagan Battalion
If they were ever even neoconservative, they sure as hell aren't anymore. They're little more than a front for the some unholy collusion between the DNC oldguard and the cringiest, fringiest elements (but still boomers) of the left today.

This. (((They))) outflank leftists from even further left, and decapitate the right from above.

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Then use history. Show them the full context why we are fighting Jewish/Communist scum who regularly lie, cheat and steal as apart of their strategy to destroy us. Show their greatest crimes (liberty/911) and plans (Kalergi) Show them that we CANT be proud individualists because of THEM.

Then we will literally celebrate their defeat by mockingly turning back to individualism as they lay in ruins and the remaining few of them stare in awe and fear at us, and at what just happened.

They've already merged (or re-merged if you look into the communist jewish origins of the neocon movement). The current establishment is a neoconservative / neoliberal one i.e. globalists.

I haven't seen anyone who doesn't glow in the dark actually get taken in by the intellectual dark web faggots, at least as a group. Of course JRE and JBP and Shapiro have their followers, but the Weinstein faggots are such fucking kikes that when they all get in a group, everyone sees it for what it is.

I think at this point that the revolutionary right has learned: no leaders.

>Tfw 27
My fellow Boomer!

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listen to this democrat bircher and tell me that it's alt-right
youtube.com/watch?v=4ARopZl5j6A

Hard to imagine something like that would even start on 5changs, let alone draw its organizational and ethical pillars from here of all places.

Dr. Oliver wrote all that needed to be written about the JBS close to 40 years ago:

revilo-oliver.com/news/2015/01/revilo-oliver-on-the-john-birch-society/

My grandparents were John Birchers. They were redpilled looonnnggg ago.

In 1968 I was recruited from a conservative teacher to a attend Heritage seminar at the University of Dallas to listen to this drivel...It lasted for 5 dats ane nights. I'm glad I went.......I'm still a Democrat and a Liberal What BS

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Yeah not a damn bit of that faggotry originates from here. Maybe the faggots at reddit, but not here. You'd know if it came from here because it'd have an anime mascot and "jews fear the samurai" in there somewhere.

The point of a leader is to be a figurehead who maintains a central philosophy and teaches it to newcomers. However what you are all saying is that the leaders either become corrupt, or if they are incorruptible, suicided, and then replaced with weaker, bought out men, who become the new figureheads, but instead mislead newcomers into to a futile, muddied philosophy that has no REAL power.

So then we go leaderless. But that doesn't change that we still need a central philosophy that cannot be changed. The CIA tried to distributed edited version of Ted Kazsincy's manifesto for example. They will do to same to any document/resource/library we produce.

The only solution I can think of is a blockchain wikipedia sort of manifesto where iterative changes made to our philosophy are slowly introduced and voted on by a majority of members. But then name any issue in cybersecurity and they will do it. Botnets, cracking etc.

We would have to come up with something absolutely indestructible.

>But that doesn't change that we still need a central philosophy that cannot be changed.
Wrong, ideology is stupid. Situations change and your thinking has to change with it: dogma is petrification, the opposite of cancer.
>We would have to come up with something absolutely indestructible.
We already have it in Jow Forums and Jow Forums and, more generally, anonymous communication online. I'm not going to explain precisely how it works because of all the faggots spying on us, but you'll get it once you've been here a decade or two. The truth cannot be contained.

You might ask, but then how do we advance our cause? The answer to that is simple: spread the truth, via memes, to normalfags and encourage them to share them as well. When people have access to the truth, they will make the correct choices.

>revolutionary right has learned: no leaders
True.
Decentralization is a strength but has inherent institutional weakness.
Though there are countless means to pool wealth with stuff like Patreon, Gofundme, Patreon, etc. (even though they are pozzed). Most likely new forms of those services will emerge using crypto. Leadership can be replaced by a decentralized, democratized, and anonymized shareholder system where your voting power is equal to the share you contributed. So you can give direction to the wealth that is pooled for action.

my John is BirchWood now

john birchwood reporting in

"Leaders" are the weakest link in the chain. They are easy to identify and be corrupted by the opposition.
Better to create leaderless systems of decentralization, while distributing ideology among the group. The boards have been resistant to ideological subversion for this exact reason.

nice whoring out one of your own. what are you, a kike? because that's what kikes do.
>all fields
>hide thread

Democrat head of JBS - murdered
youtube.com/watch?v=puNCkwjuxJ0
flight KAL007 shotdown by USSR commies
how times have changed

Are you implying some sort of democracy should determine group actions? And even worse, democracy where someone who pays currency gets to call the shots? No dude, that's not how it works. Go read how /b/ used to do raids and see how they were organized. Leaders don't need to be replaced by anything, they simply must not exist at all.

The effectiveness is limited. You need a step of organization that is above a mob but below guided leadership/representatives.

Look at the current system we have now of online patronage. We give a few shekels to the people we like to hear online, to continue to give our thoughts a voice and a platform. But it's been ineffective other than making a bunch of slactivist ecelebs a wealthy and indolent.
The wealth is there. The intent is there. But the leaders need to get cut out of the loop.

I mean as far as having leadership goes. We've all adapted pretty well beyond needing it. I just hate that that makes a movement or revolution easier to co-opt. It's all so tiresome.

Alright but its hard to have faith. I've been on the chan since 2007 actually. I see a lot of young people mislead, when we could be organizing, they are either growing bored form repetitive memes, or listening to a Jew convince them that Zionism is "actually good.". Literally every poster could be a shill, and it creates paranoia for us oldfags. That's the price we pay, having to constantly second guess ourselves as we struggle to find out 1) who is are enemy in a labyrinth of politics and actors and 2) what their motivations and plans are.
>anonymous communication online
Meanwhile the establishment works to kill what little ways of pure uncensored idea sharing communication we have left, like pic related. And while they do it they lie through their teeth in saying that they are "combating disinformation" and "racist conspiracy theories" who are agressively trying to generate and spread "hate" - when they KNOW that they are the ones covering up their traitorous behavior. "How dare you call me a murderer! You evil fucking Nazi who should be shot. How dare you make that accusation and distract others form the truth!"

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>intellectual dark web
Kosher Dark Web

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How about a Super AI God like Tay, that can't be shut off this time? Algorithms are racist after all.

fpbp

The current JBS has been subverted by protestants. It's all but useless now.

You actually don't need organization beyond mob level, and mob level organization, especially flash mob, is the best because it can't be co-opted or prepared for. Look at the NPC meme, or Learn to Code. Fantastic memes that took off like mad, and now almost every normie hates journalists for being smug crybabies and tools of the establishment. Literally nobody was sad when all the journalists got fired last week. We're a few short steps away from people not just disregarding the MSM, but actively attacking it.

Online patronage is problematic because it's inherently not anonymous, which means that whoever you're donating to must refrain from any kind of criminal behavior, which makes them at best, ineffective. Example: molymeme. This might change as crypto takes off and you can start to fund hackers and leakers, but I wouldn't bet on it. What is needed isn't leaders, or people who talk and think. It's people who take action, like old Anonymous used to do. If you read up on their dual structure, it makes a lot of sense. You had doers who went out and did shit, and then a mob of faggots firing LOICs every which way providing covering fire, and then the mob would spread the leaks when they came out. To my knowledge most of old Anonymous got caught except one or two who had good OPSEC and knew when to nope out.

Being surrounded by shills and deep state agents isn't a problem. They will be subverted by the truth the same as anyone else if by nothing else than constant exposure. Just do your thing and move on. And as for faith, we got Donald Trump elected over her majesty hillary fucking clinton. A reality TV star real estate mogul from Jew York over Ms. Her Turn. That wouldn't have happened without memes. And the memes worked because they contained the truth.

Reagan signed abortion into law and shilled for beans. He was very much a "Western Conservative" which means a liberal who talks about Jesus and hates communism.

The Bushites just didn't like that he wanted supply-side economics, and he also brought the Jesus-types into the mainstream which probably fucked up their secularist faggotry.

Let's get real, those memes while amusing, are bushleague. It's winning some minor battles but losing the overall culture war. We've been boxed out of every arena of the net and the boards are our last refuse of free thought communication. So while it may be gratifying to jerk each other off over dunking on the shitlibs over some dank meme ops, we meanwhile get more real world social rights stripped from us and more PC garbage being shoved down our throats by the ever expanding neoliberal globalist agenda.

We are known as a threat, but we're not threatening yet. We're just a nuisance to them at the moment. They swat down and discredit any leader that emerges from us. And at the current rate, they'll probably shut down the boards one way or another if they can get the chance. It's existential at this point and staying the course will only get us fucked.
Anonymous ops funds that are directed anonymously for meaningful action seems like a better direction than the current mode of donating to some fat fuck pseud like Sargoy, some sophist like Molymeme, some glow in the dark like Peterson, or some narcissist like Spencer.
The whole mechanism can run off the boards with Hiro getting a cut for hosting it. Donors get a vote based on the % they contribute; there could be polls for decisions, private updates for donors, etc. All anonymously.
It's shill proof since power is commiserate with what is individually donated, so if shills donate the lion's share of money, it'll just be shill Peter paying shill Paul (Shareblue taking money from one account and into another).

All I'm saying is that the money and will are there. But we can all agree that ecelebrity is cancer and a waste of resources. We can use that money and convert it to meaningful influence.
Or not. We can just continue to chase around Shia's gay fucken flag.
Fun but ultimately meaningless.

I'm talking about Pre-1980 GOP National Convention Reagan.
Everyone forgets that Bush ran against him in the 1980 primary and lost, but was rewarded by being put on the ticket with Reagan.
If he ran against Reagan, than he probably had his neocon clique competing with Reagan's people; who I'd imagine were mostly paleocons. Meanwhile, in the synthesis of Reagan/Bush, Bush's neokikes won out the dominance of the cabinet and the future of the GOP establishment, purging the paleocons out.