Are they in conjunction with one another?
Zionism and Jesuits
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Nothing?
of course.
youtu.be
Ignatius was a fake convert. And even if he was a true convert... the catholic church was founded by jews
every time
Synogogue of satan
So what do you think about Trump's and his son and daughter being in Jesuit schools?
Who is above the other? Zionism or Jesuit order?
It's a murky subject. At the higher ends, they're definitely infiltrated, but most Catholics and even a lot of smaller Catholic establishments still hold true to Christian teachings.
I feel like I can't really trust no one in higher powers anymore, nor Jews nor catholics. This is demoralizing but liberating at the same time know what I mean?
I should add most white Catholics. Mary worshiping beaners, and cross-fucking niggers are not Christian.
I do believe in God still and Jesus.
What do you mean then?
No, that's a protestant/freemason conspiracy theory.
The Jesuits are actually (((their))) most dangerous enemy because they will stop at nothing to carry out their plans. For example, Francis might well think "Let's accelerate this shit until Europeans start fighting back", that's exactly how Jesuits roll.
>zionism
>not international jewry
you're a jew
In short, the echoes of the old church still hold true to doctrine, but the grander parts are infiltrated. It shows in their evil works; same for the non-white catholic off-shoots.
Kek, enlighten me then, I just thought Zionist s where the active ones and the orthodox ones just thought that should wait for the messiah. I made that destintion just based on that. You know Rofschild are Zionist a and made steps and funded Israel and shit
So you think the Pope is no bueno then?
I think he could be, but like said, there's some major 4D chess shit that happens in the Vatican. I can't say for sure.
Please please enlighten me, how are they good ?
Yes the Jesuits were founded by a Jew who then filled the Jesuit order with other crypto jews like himself. Even today many jews go to Jesuit schools.
I'm getting contradicting story's here, so can anyone recommend books of the subject that are credible to you?
I dunno man seems sketchy
Freemasons invented anti-Jesuit conspiracy theories to avoid getting hunted. Jesuits are basically the hardcore secret agents of Catholicism who will stop at nothing (and I mean nothing, it's in their vow, look it up) to eradicate protestants, pagans, jews and so on.
Yes the book in pic related This is a book written by a renowned historian of the Society of Jesus (Jesuit Order) that specifically says the founder of the Jesuits was a converso (crypto jew) and that many of the other founding members were crypto jews.
>I'm getting contradicting story's here
Don't listen to Americans. They hate jesuits because their culture is protestantism+freemasonry+judaism.
Igantius of Loyola was the scion of a Basque noble family and used to be a knight until he got a cannonball to the knee. Nothing jewish about that.
On one hand I believe it on the other hand we both know what they say doesn't relate to actions most of the time. So what do you make of Trump's Jesuit background and Staff and his relationship with Zionist a who found see his campaign, is he playing chess ?
I will check it out user thanks.
ALso Ignatius Loyola was interrogated twice by the Inquisition for his connections to an order called alumbrados (illuminati) where he had defended and been connected with members of this order.
en.wikipedia.org
Catholics and Jews are both controlled by the same secret societies that came from Babylon.
Got any books that recommend?
Also the first Grand Inquisitor for the catholic church was also a converso crypto jew.
>Jesuits are hunting protestants and Jews
Fuck off, lol.
He's lying to you. Don't listen to him.
>secret societies that came from Babylon.
Another psy-op victim. Babylon is older than the bible or anything having to do with it. You learned that shit from youtube. The bible doesn't appear until the Greeks take over the area. Phenocians might be closer to what you're thinking... as in Carthage and Cannanite lands.
Your pic is true though.
He's baiting you because you're weak and new to information like this. They hang out here and recruit people
This is great stuff user, so what you are saying is that Trump is controlled? Is there no hope then?
Give me books to read and other stuff, I want to learn
>Another psy-op victim. Babylon is older than the bible or anything having to do with it. You learned that shit from youtube. The bible doesn't appear until the Greeks take over the area. Phenocians might be closer to what you're thinking... as in Carthage and Cannanite lands.
No shit its older than Babylon, its pre flood, 12k+ years. But Babylon was the instrument of indoctrinating the early jews into the mystery cults. There is ZERO record of jews existing until AFTER the Babylonian imprisonment, when the refugee royalty from Babylon fled to the levant and had to create a fake religion to control the myriad of different tribes living there from dozens of different cultures. It was just a variety of Canaanite tribes and relocated Sea peoples defeated by Ramses. The Babylonians (Rabi) created a religion for the masses while practicing their own religion in secret.
The early Hebrew were called Habiru by the egyptians and just represented various unrelated tribes of bandits from all over the middle east, but they all lived exactly where Israel supposedly existed.
Who is in charge then?
The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit And Its Impact on World History by E. Michael Jones
during babylonian exile babylonian pharisees mixed with hebrews. after they killed Jesus and most of hebrews by 1st holocaust ->bar kohba revolt they written babylonian talmud and took over jewish identity changing it into rabbinism.
at this point catholics were opposed to jews but tolerated them.
problems started when jews started pushing their revolutions. after french one they controled most of western europe
Maybe you would know if you learned how to read.
Thanks user will take a look
Awesome, child rape and violation of the commandment to not kill all under the Vatican.
What do you think about your country might-as-well being African?
Well the Catholic church and PARTICULARLY the Jesuits was a creation of jews. You have to understand how controlled Rome was in the end by jews too. Jews were brought over as slaves by romans. They were used to operate the businesses of Romans and eventually were freed upon the death of their master and ended up taking over the businesses they ran, changing their names, even intermarrying with the Romans. The Talmud even says Nero was Jewish convert. The roman empire was infested with jews at its downfall and the origins of the Catholic church originate from these freed jewish slaves who had risen to become the wealthiest Roman merchants and the origins of the black nobility.
But they are not really jews, they have far more in common with Canaanites than jews.
Such intelectual power I see in front of me, such grace, poise and command of the written word you have. You are indeed a intelectual mutt a true species of rare miscegenation of Wich depravity is looked upon by third world lookalikes. F
Very interesting, but how do I make sure of the veracity of such claims ? How do I guide myself ?
Catholics were not opposed to jews for very long. Jews infested both the royal european line of the mErovingians with Charlemagne son (one of his wives was a Rhadanite) and the Byzantine royal line which produced most of the early popes with Constantine V, his wife was a Khazar jew and his son was a jew.
Indifferent, I am white and I feel good about it, stop projecting.
Ultimately allegiances still fray at biological differences. Meaning that Zion and the Jesuits will always be at war to some degree.
When you consider that Europe is currently the one being invaded whilst Israel not, I believe that Zion has the upper hand at this present time.
A lot has changed since WW2 especially. I think Zion controlling the US, and NYC particularly gave them the upper hand with finance and media. Following bretton woods they conquered the global money market and exponentially increased their power since 1972.
How long have you been studying this subject if I may ask?
Understand the origins of the catholic church. It originated in two factions, the Franks (european nobility) and the Byzantines (popes). Both were jews.
Charlamagnes son married a Radhanite
en.wikipedia.org
And you can see how the jews integrated into the papal line
Catholics are Jews
>let's accelerate this shit
So let me get this straight. Jesuits are making things worse for europe, and you are calling it excelerationism? Wew lad. Study up on the reformation lads. The Angelo Calvinist tradition is the whitest thing on the face of the earth. It makes hitler himself look like a literal nigger monkey. Or you know, you can have this guy explain to you that Jesuits are the enemies of Jews because they are making things worse in europe...... yeah.
I have studied history for 15 years as an adult, but only studied the jews interactions with the Europeans for the past 3 years. You honestly cannot understand western civilization without understanding the influence jews had on it.
From the Jewish control of the Greeks, then the Romans, then the early Roman Empire. To jews who were kicked out of spain and went to Amsterdan and created the Dutch East India Company and then funded Cromwell to overthrow and murder the british Monarch and rescind the laws prohibiting jews in England and the creation fo the British East India company and the City of London. Like it or not, jews and europeans have been interconnected for more than 2,000 years.
There is no 4d chess happening in the Vatican. They aren't pretending to be evil to get white people to "start fighting back". They are just evil, and ruining the entire fucking continent of europe. It's not a Protestant/Freemason conspiracy (like a freemason would ever be allowed in the same room as a protestant)....Catholics are literally fucking evil and retarded.
Drake Shelton's "A history of Jesuit Intrigue"
What about Presbyterians then?
Can you point me to a beginners book Wich is complete and accessible to beginners?
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Are you seriously speaking about the catholic church like they are heroes? And Jesuits (who formed the freemasons, Illuminati, and rosicrucians by the way) are some sort of great super heroes that save the world from protestants? (Who ultimately founded the USA and set us free from Britain).
Fucking wew dude. Go look up Southern Israelite guys. You need some serious history revision. The Catholic church was the most oppressive entity to white man IN HISTORY. WAY WORSE THAN THE JEWS. It's seriously not even fucking close. Holy fuck man, yeah you want to see my people get hung back up on the rack by some faggot pedofile neoplatonist? Wow your ignorance knows no bounds.
Will check it out thanks user!
You are the biggest idiot I have ever seen on Jow Forums. This is seriously baffling. Freemasons and Protestants working together.... against Catholics. You are out of your fucking mind. Freemasons are Catholics dude.... lmao
If you want to understand the early relationship with jews and romans, I would recommend you read Josephus and Tacitus. These were both historians during the roman empire who recorded the history of the time often with first hand accounts. The relationship with Rome and Judea is almost identical with the US and Israel.
Josephus recorded the words of Titus the Roman General who sacked Jerusalem:
"It can therefore be nothing certainly but the kindness of us Romans which hath excited you against us; who, in the first place, have given you this land to possess; and, in the next place, have set over you kings of your own nation; and, in the third place, have preserved the laws of your forefathers to you, and have withal permitted you to live, either by yourselves, or among others, as it should please you: and, what is our chief favor of all we have given you leave to gather up that tribute which is paid to God790 with such other gifts that are dedicated to him; nor have we called those that carried these donations to account, nor prohibited them; till at length you became richer than we ourselves, even when you were our enemies; and you made preparations for war against us with our own money; nay, after all, when you were in the enjoyment of all these advantages, you turned your too great plenty against those that gave it you, and, like merciless serpents, have thrown out your poison against those that treated you kindly."
That website with discord has a picture of Saturn as it's logo.
Wat? Didn't you hear, discord is compromised.
History repeats itself it seems, thanks based user for the great effort you have put in this thread, will check out the books.
Alexandre Dumas wrote about it in his books if you look close enough.
His father was the highest General in Napoleon's army at one point. During the time period when the Jesuits were banned and working and the Bavarian Illuminati had planned to cause revolution in France as part of their plan to return. This is also when the Rothschilds made their forturne seemingly coming out of nowhere.
In the Three Musketeers:
D'Artagnan is the Rothschild's
Athos is the Nobel's
Porthos represents Militaries
Aramis represents Jesuits
The Jesuits the Militaries and the Nobel's plotted together working together opposed at the time by the Cardinal's of the Church and the Rothshild's came along as the new kid, but became like a leader to them. Although they all viewed each other as equals.
>History repeats itself it seems
Interesting perspective never heard of that .
Understood
Check out Tacitus in relation to Jewish history. Josephus himself was a jew from an elite family, so his words on jews will likely be biased.
Tacitus is considered to be one of the greatest Roman historians. He lived in what has been called the Silver Age of Latin literature, and is known for the brevity and compactness of his Latin prose, as well as for his penetrating insights into the psychology of power politics.
livius.org
Some highlights:
"In order to secure the allegiance of his people in the future, Moses prescribed for them a novel religion quite different from those of the rest of mankind. Among the Jews all things are profane that we hold sacred; on the other hand they regard as permissible what seems to us immoral. In the innermost part of the Temple, they consecrated an image of the animal which had delivered them from their wandering and thirst, choosing a ram as beast of sacrifice to demonstrate, so it seems, their contempt for Hammon."
"The other practices of the Jews are sinister and revolting, and have entrenched themselves by their very wickedness. Wretches of the most abandoned kind who had no use for the religion of their fathers took to contributing dues and free-will offerings to swell the Jewish exchequer; and other reasons for their increasing wealth way be found in their stubborn loyalty and ready benevolence towards brother Jews. But the rest of the world they confront with the hatred reserved for enemies"
Some things never change huh? BTW I'm tired of this CAPTCHA SHIT, so anoying.